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BHPian manofinfinity recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
When we set out in the market there was honestly only the XUV700 that we were considering apart from Innova, others were simply not that appealing. We almost bought a 2022 Innova Crysta GX automatic but due to some problem it never came into our hands and after that, Toyota stopped Crysta altogether.
We very much looking forward to the new Innova launch and when it launched it seemed the best and the most value for money MPV under 30 lacs when compared with XUV700 and others in the price range.
We booked hycross on the launch date itself in November, and then by January end we first got to see the Hycross in person. We liked everything about it and decided to go ahead and then waited patiently our SA assured us that by March we will get the car allotted. The SA knew us very well and knew that we were serious about getting the car he also warned us and was pushing us to get it as soon as possible, he was also warning us about price hikes, but our car never got allocated before March.
In March after the 85k price hike, we got our Innova Hycross Hybrid VX 8-seater allocated and on 15 March we took delivery it was indeed a very special moment taking delivery felt very special.
This was our very first experience with the Toyota dealership and have to say it was very pleasant they are very professional and understanding, have a no-nonsense attitude and are very down to earth. The only gripe we had was that our SA forced us to take insurance, extended warranty and all the accessories. After much arguing and drama, we finally gave in and took insurance and extended the warranty as they were not ready to move forward without them.
Coming to the compulsory accessories SA was forcing us to take all accessories with 50k but we liked and wanted only 3,4 items on the list, after much arguing and negotiation SA finally agreed on the accessories front, the accessories we got were:
Recently last week crossed the 2000 km mark and wanted to write a brief summary of all my observations and experiences till now.
I have been following this thread from the beginning and gained much more information and insights which also helped me in our purchase decision.
My close relatives have the Crysta (2018) and had an earlier Innova (2012) and I have travelled quite a lot in them and I appreciate that car very much even more now after getting the hycross, but getting the newest Innova and especially our first hybrid car this early was indeed very exciting and special.
I will divide my overall experience and observations into the following parts:
Very happy and satisfied with the overall experience with the hycross till now, can't wait to do long trips in this beast.
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BHPian Cresterk recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
I got rather carried away typing out the Crysta encounter yesterday so I didn't get the time to talk about the second half of the day, when the car was fully loaded with 7 people on board including me, the driver.
Here it is with 2 people in the middle captain's seats and 3 people in the 3rd row. Both front seats are empty. I wanted to check out whether it would squat down like in that one picture that was posted here where it was fully loaded. I couldn't notice any difference in the rear stance but the car was standing still on gravel so I'm not sure if that plays a part.
Here is the car while it is empty for comparison. Note: I have flipped the image so it is easier to compare.
With the weight of 7 people on board, I could definitely feel a difference in regenerative braking. The car was now coasting much further and the actual brakes would kick in a lot more when slowing down. You can tell when the actual brake pads have kicked in by looking at the Eco Meter which will be pushed all the way to the end of the 'charging zone' and will not move further even when pushing the brakes down further.
Courtesy of Kerala's uneven terrain, I had to go up a rather steep climb and then stop before reaching the top because of an intersection. The Hycross didn't have any trouble going up and didn't have any trouble starting off after coming to a complete stop either. Hill hold assist kicked in automatically when I lifted off the brake pedal and the car stayed in place pressing the accelerator pushed it forward smoothly. No sudden jerks, everything was smooth and controlled and there was no unnecessary revving even with the extra weight which was pleasantly surprising.
I understand this was a rather short climb but I'm going to take it to Munnar next month and I will update here on how it does on a proper hill climb.
Another thing to talk about is the stance and wheels from the side. I must say, the wheels don't feel as undersized as I had initially thought when I first saw it in the Indonesian press reveal where it was wearing the Modellista body kit which extends the bumpers down further. It is a size smaller than competing crossovers such as the XUV700 or Tata Safari but it doesn't look bad either.
Would bigger tyres have been nicer? Yes. Are the current tyres so small that I want to upgrade them to something bigger? No.
So I have shelved my plans to upgrade the tyres to a thicker sidewall to increase the overall diameter. Besides, it will lead to the wheel speed sensors being uncalibrated and I don't want to screw up all the ADAS calculations or the handling which is pretty damn good for an MPV. It's not like I'm going to go offroad in this thing anyway.
I booked mine in November on the first day of the booking opening. I don't know if I would be considered 'early' since the Hycross went through a price hike and a Kerala road tax hike before I got mine in April. I didn't pay anything extra over the official price list. I didn't know anyone important, I just made my booking online through the official Toyota website. Maybe I got lucky with the salesman assigned to me. I told him straight up that I had booked at another dealership too and I will take delivery of whichever one arrived first.
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BHPian Cresterk recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
I have been patiently waiting till the first service is done to do an initial ownership report but I just drove 100 km combined today, first alone and then with 7 people on board and I'm feeling pretty happy with the car so I just had to share with my fellow enthusiasts and owners.
Something you quickly realise and accept when driving the Hycross is that other Innovas will drive weirdly around you. Crysta owners especially will treat you like you are their wife's ex-boyfriend and they have something to prove by overtaking or speeding away from you.
I have been ignoring it so far because:
Today while I was cruising on the highway, I saw a black 2.4Z Crysta with modified tail lights and heavily tinted glasses in front of me. I had a feeling that this was going to be one of 'those guys'. He hadn't noticed me yet so we were just driving along with the flow of traffic, with me behind him at a fair enough gap. Didn't want him to think that I have got something to prove by driving too close, you know? Traffic was moving at a decent enough pace so I think we were both content to just relax and go with the flow.
Then all of a sudden he moves to the left track and accelerates till he gets right to the truck in front and brakes. There is no gap to squeeze through to the right. I don't make any effort to close the gap he vacated and he quickly moves back into the right track and honks at the poor Swift in front.
Ah looks like he finally noticed me.
There is only so long you can stay ignorant of a large black, suspiciously SUVish-looking MPV with low-set DRLs in your mirror without recognizing it as the new generation of your car. As soon as we pass the truck, he moves back into the left lane and accelerates hard, zooming away just to come across yet another slow-moving car and have to brake again. He swerves back into the right lane but is now stuck behind another car that is only moving marginally faster than the left lane. You could almost hear his impatience as he tailgates the car until the left lane opens up, and away he goes! Only to have to slow down as we are now approaching an intersection and there is a bus that's already halfway across the road.
He has to stop. The cars in front of me in the right lane go through but with the bus inching forward, I stop as well. I'm not going to play chicken with the lunatic behind the wheel of a private bus in Kerala!
All the cars waiting at either side of the intersection use this opportunity to cross the road. I am right beside the Crysta now. The whole road has now stopped and is waiting for the intersection to clear. As soon as the last car makes it past his lane, off he goes! I get a late start but I'm off too after my lane is clear. The highway has now completely cleared up in front since we were stopped for a while. I am keeping an eye on the Eco Meter that Toyota provides instead of a tachometer on its hybrids. I have been trying to keep it below the power zone so far. The Crysta is accelerating hard, showing no signs of letting up as our speeds cross 50, 60 and 70, I'm in comfort mode and I'm glancing down at the Eco Meter to see that the needle has crept past the top of the ecozone and is now slightly in the beginning of the power zone. I finally say, ah screw it, and I push my foot down more. The response from the Hycross is instant. There is no lag waiting for a turbo to spool up, the downshift and the roar from the engine are instant (ahem, well as much as a 2L engine can roar) and the Hycross just shoots ahead, past the Crysta. I see the Eco meter getting close to the top and I lift off and it goes back to EV mode as it starts to regenerate. We are approaching traffic up front anyway so I go back to driving sedately. The Crysta came up in the other lane but he stayed slightly behind me all the way to the signal despite having space to go ahead
I turned right at the signal and he went straight with a little toot of the horn. I drove away with a stupidly large smile on my face.
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Yup. This car has enough power when needed. Nice write-up of the drag race with Crysta.
My VX has covered 5900 km in 2.5 months. Had two trips from Chennai to KL and once to Hyd. My brother-in-law wanted to see how fast it could go and for a very brief moment (say 2 or 3 sec), on an empty stretch of four-lane highway, he got the speedo to one-eighty. The engine roared and roared. I prefer to drive around 100 on highways and to overtake any slow-moving traffic and this car has more than enough power. Overtaking on KL single-lane state highway was effortless.
Very happy with the car's performance. It's my daily ride to the office and gives a mileage of 19 km/l. On highways due to my driving style mileage is around 17.5 km/l. A full tank (50 litres) gives a range of 850 km. So coming from Chennai to my hometown (KL) is 640 km and it has enough petrol to go back to TN on the return leg to refuel. The fuel cost difference is almost 4 to 5 rupees with respect to KL.
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BHPian SKDrives recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Team-BHP to a greater extent helped me in understanding some cars I considered buying like Toyota Urban Cruiser, VW Taigun, Skoda Kushaq, Toyota Hyryder hybrid and Innova Hycross. Like anyone else, am also excited about my new car, and am here to share my car-buying experience with you all. It's a long post, am trying to make it as interesting as possible, try to read it full.
From Salem Tamil Nadu, a software professional working from Bangalore, family into farming and business. All these days till 2020 we were using pre-owned cars. Our first car was Toyota Qualis RS - which we bought in 2011; it had 2,80,000 kms when we bought it. We drove it to 3,90,000 kms and sold it off in 2015.
In 2015, we bought a 2008 Type 2 Innova GX which had already clocked 1,90,000 kms, and it has done 2,60,000 kms now as I write this. In the same year, we also bought a 2008 pre-owned Hyundai Santro exclusively for me to learn and get used to driving. It just did 125000 kms and except for the engine, everything else is a mess.
Owning a Toyota and Hyundai at the same period of time is one enlightening experience every car owner should go through. Collectively with Qualis and Innova, we've done 1,80,000 kms. We've done some fantastic family road trips, numerous 2000 kms round trips, and so many Bangalore - Salem round trips.
The cars stayed with us on all our happy, not-so-happy, flat and sad occasions. Honestly, I would confess, owning Toyotas all these happy miles is absolutely niggle free and not even once they've failed us. On the other side, Santro started giving trouble and it already started showing age-related complications.
When we decided to buy a new car, everyone in the family voted for buying a Toyota for obvious reasons.
When we finally decided to buy a Toyota, we were on a budget which was under 15 Lakhs. The idea was to refurbish Innova GX and replace Santro with a new five-seater.
The only choice we had was Toyota Urban Cruiser (Suzuki Brezza), the car had no characteristics of a Toyota, disappointed with the product lineups of Toyota, the only purebred Toyota in front of me was Crysta but the budget pulled me away from it.
Not so convinced with UC, we test-drove Kushaq 1.0 Ambition and Taigun mid-variant MT. Though the ergonomics and seating comfort were miles ahead compared to UC, the 3 Pot 1.0 TSI was jittery. Till you shift to 3rd gear, we cannot expect a settled ride with these engines. For me naturally aspirated 4 Pot Suzuki Engine was more offering smooth and settled ride compared to that of VW's.
Passing cloud
Having no options left, we finally booked Toyota UC back in 2020 and finally worked out a year-end deal with all the discounts we were getting UC top model MT for 117000 INR on-road. Anaamalais Toyota Salem was the only dealer available and we went with them.
The car was due for delivery in Feb 2021, during PDI we found out that the car allotted to us was making a clicking sound when the engine was idle after racing. Thank god I'd paid only 60K in advance; without much hassle, I had to hold my booking for the next lot of vehicles to come. Meanwhile, the news about the Brezza facelift surfaced and expecting a parallel Toyota model, we've decided to wait for the UC facelift.
Like a cloud, it came rained for a while, and like a cloud it passed - The Urban Cruiser.
While we were waiting for the facelift of UC, news surfaced that Toyota was working on a new model, codenamed D22. And from then on, I regularly followed updates on the then D22 in Team-BHP. The updates looked usual and normal to me till it was speculated that Hyryder will come paired with Toyota's Hybrid system.
Then, followed Car Care Nut channel and learnt in detail about Toyota hybrid system. The more I watched their videos, the more I started believing that the Toyota Hybrid system is an engineering marvel and added to the expectation, we were patiently waiting.
After a long wait, when Hyryder was finally launched in August 2022. The first disappointment was the inclusion of a sunroof in Hybrid G. I always thought and still think, the sunroof is just an overrated luxury feature for India.
The second disappointment struck when the prices were revealed. Hybrid G was almost 22L on-road and with a sunroof, I was not convinced with the price I'd be paying for.
S Variant was 18.63L on-road, however, it lacked some basic features like a rear windshield wiper and alloy wheels. Though it felt reasonable for the price somehow was not convinced with S. Toyota created some serious mess with the variants of Hyryder.
Finally with compromises like installing 3M CR70 film on the sunroof, booked Hybrid G and started waiting for test drives to begin. Then came the day when we test-drove Hyryder Hybrid V (the only test-drive vehicle available), the initial impression was: for the price I'm paying, I'm not getting even half the space we use to get in our 2008 Innova.
The second row was compromised with space, though the ride was plush and sophisticated lack of space for well-built adults was subpar in Hyryder. Add to it, because of the cheap sunroof blind used (probably the cheapest fishing net available), the head was radiating inside the cabin. We could clearly feel the cabin was like an oven and the AC system working overtime to keep the cabin cool.
I expressed my dislikes to the sales assistant, and having no other option still decided to go ahead with Hyryder G. The wait for Hyryrder G with compromises began.
While I was waiting for Hyryder, Crysta was stopped. News started surfacing and Autocar India wrote an article about the launch of Innova Hycross in the 2022 Diwali season.
I called the sales assistant and informed him to put Hyryder's booking on hold, he was shocked and tried to convince me. But I decided to wait for Hycross. By the time when Hycross was launched, I was fully familiar with Toyota's hybrid systems and how it drives.
So no question about the engine or the powertrain. The only stopper this time would be the price. Was recovering from the pain Hyryder's price caused this time was not expecting anything less than 33 Lakhs for the mid variant.
Fastened my seat belts and was ready to brace the impact.
Finally, the day came in, and Hycross was revealed in India on November 25 2022 (though I was following their Indonesian launch with subtitles). After going through their specifications brochure, it was evident that Toyota did an excellent job in fixing the variants. Out of all, Hycross VX Hybrid was the no non-sense variant to me and it ticked all (yes, ALL) my expectations from a car. Next is price.
The very next day, without expecting too much, we cancelled the Hyryder booking and booked Hycross VX Hybrid 7S Silver Metallic and wait for the price reveal in 2023 January has begun. To shock everyone, in December 2022 Toyota revealed the price of Hybrid models. It was costing me 29.8L on-road in Salem which was much less than what I expected. Good job Toyota.
Finally, I witnessed the first Hycross in person only at the end of January. I had to travel from CV Raman Nagar to Bannerghatta Road Nandi Toyota to see the VX hybrid in person.
To be Frank, I liked everything about Hycross, the way it looked, the way it was designed, the way the interiors were laid etc. It looked like one complete vehicle for me, especially with so much space for all three seats on offer. However, from time to time, I kept hearing complaints about the plastic quality of Hycross interiors, but was not bothered, as am coming from a 2008 Innova it's filled with plastics and plastics only.
I was trying to get a test drive, but because of so many reasons, I couldn't get the test drive of Hycross till I drove our own. Finally, the sales assistant said our car is allotted and expected to arrive by March 16th. By this time Toyota already revised the price, and now the VX hybrid was costing 30.4 L on-road in Salem.
We initiated the process, and everything went in our way finally we go the delivery of the Hycross Hybrid VX 7S on 24th March 2023.
Our car clocked 2500 kms so far, which includes 2 Bangalore - Salem Highway trips (220 kms one way), one Salem to Trichy Road trip (125 kms one way), one Salem to Karaikkal (Thirunallaru) road trip (250 kms one way).
Most of our members covered the review aspects of Hycross, which helped me in my decision making and am sure it will help you all as well. So I will stick to what I like and what I dislike after these 2500 kms.
Other than these minor niggles, it's all good so far.
I'm happy with my buy, and it's all Toyota: right from platform, engine and drive train.
Sometimes, we have to wait longer than usual to get what we feel is the best. As a fanboy and loyal customer of Toyota, I had to wait for three years to get Hycross which feels so far so good. So try to delay your car buying process. Digest all the information that's thrown at us and enjoy the process. After all, it's our money and it's our happiness.
Thank you for reading fellow BHPians. Happy motoring and wish me luck.
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BHPian samitjain recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
My new Innova Hycross was damaged a few days back and I took the car to their approved workshop Galaxy Toyota-Delhi Okhla for repair. To my surprise, the workshop refused to repair the car as the insurance company Tata-Aig had suddenly come out with new rates for repair which are unacceptable to the workshop.
Now my car is lying without any repair work for the last 4 days and Galaxy Toyota has refused to do any work. I am caught in no man's land.
Here's what BHPian Cresterk had to say about the matter:
This is not your fault. Call the agent and demand that they either pay up quoted amount, fix your car or refund the insurance premium completely or you will take it to the insurance ombudsman. This will make them pressure the dealership. Alternatively, take the car back from the workshop and take it to another dealer.
Here's what BHPian Wizaro had to say about the matter:
I recently bought a Camry with insurance from TATA AIG and was planning to buy for Hycross from Tata as well. Guess it's time to look to another company. If the Galaxy-Tata scenario remains stalled. Try contacting Espirit/Uttam/MGF workshops and see if they have the same views on TATA. If not then take the car to them or if they do too, then pressure on the agent and the surveyor. This should settle it in any case.
Here's what BHPian Mechb63 had to say about the matter:
This seems to be more of a Toyota issue than a Tata AIG issue. I have experienced the same in Mumbai.
Dealer A would refuse to work on your car if you were to insure your car from elsewhere. If you have a Toyota policy then everything is indeed smooth like butter, I was also warned about so when I decided not to renew my insurance with Toyota.
Luckily Dealer B is happy to take care of the repairs, in a cashless manner with the same policy. The only downside is this dealer B has their workshop on the other side of town, which is only a minor hiccup.
The only solution, in this case, is to contact your agent and ask them to direct you to any authorized workshop within your city where they can sort it out. No point in arguing with the dealer about where your car is currently kept.
Here's what BHPian dicor had to say about the matter:
Write an email to TATA AIG and Toyota both, stating the issue. If the amount is not too (0000) much, pay it from your pocket and get your car back on the road (do inform them of this as well).
Then claim that amount from TATA AIG, if they refuse, talk to the customer care manager, if still not happy; go to Grievance Redressal Officer (GRO), if you are not satisfied with the resolution, approach Nodal Officer for your servicing location. If you are not happy with his resolution, approach the Insurance Ombudsman.
Believe me, this works, I assure you that your issue will be resolved at the GRO level itself.
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Maruti Suzuki has filed a trademark for the 'Engage' nametag. While applying for a trademark is a general practice, the fact that this application was filed just a few days ago has led to speculations that Maruti could use this name for its upcoming hybrid MPV.
Maruti Suzuki's upcoming MPV will be a rebadged version of the Toyota Innova Hycross. The carmaker has confirmed that it will debut around June-July 2023.
Maruti's version of the Innova Hycross is expected to get minor cosmetic changes to help differentiate it from the Toyota. It could get a different grille, but would mostly be a badge engineering exercise than a complete redesign.
The Innova Hycross comes with a strong-hybrid powertrain that uses a 2.0-litre petrol engine that makes 183 BHP and 206 Nm. The engine is mated to an e-CVT and is said to deliver a fuel economy of 21.1 km/l.
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Maruti Suzuki is set to launch its version of the Toyota Innova Hycross by June-July, 2023. It will be the eighth model sold via the brand's Nexa retail channel.
RC Bhargava, Chairman, Maruti Suzuki, has stated that the company will be sourcing the 3-row strong-hybrid from Toyota. While it is unlikely to bring in huge volumes, Bhargava believes, it will be a path breaker.
Maruti's version of the Innova Hycross is expected to get minor cosmetic changes to help differentiate it from the Toyota. It could get a different grille, but would mostly be a badge engineering exercise than a complete redesign.
The Innova Hycross comes with a strong-hybrid powertrain that uses a 2.0-litre petrol engine that makes 183 BHP and 206 Nm. The engine is mated to an e-CVT and is said to deliver a fuel economy of 21.1 km/l.
Currently, Toyota has a 12-month backlog of orders for the Innova Hycross.
Source: ET Auto
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BHPian MarutiGuy1977 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
So my first tankful to tankful measurement.
Fuel filled - Normal Indian Oil petrol.
On the highway drive which was at the start, I hit a peak of 20 km/l and overall on that drive it settled down to around 18 km/l
Post that it was mainly city driving and that dragged it down to an overall 15.4 km/l approx.
Could have filled in around 7 litres more so it would have gone for 100 km more approx giving a full tank distance of approx 800 km.
If it was more highway, no doubt it could hit 900 km + on a tankful.
When the DTE was less than 100 km, it started to fall very fast. Soon it didn’t indicate DTE and switched to “Low Fuel”. I believe I filled in fuel when the DTE would have been 40 km.
Now after a full tank, it is showing DTE at 730 km.
The DTE indicator is not very predictable in my view. The variation is not exactly as per the FE. But approximately a good indicator.
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According to a media report, Toyota is planning to increase production by 20-30%. The carmaker is likely to double its output to over 3,20,000 units in the current fiscal.
Toyota currently has an order backlog of over 1,20,000 units, resulting in long waiting periods. The carmaker has decided to start a third shift at its Bidadi factory near Bangalore next month. This should boost production from 380 units per day to 510 units, resulting in an overall rise in annual production capacity from 3,20,000 units to 4,00,000 units.
The waiting period for some Toyota models has risen to 18 months. It even prompted Toyota to halt bookings for the top variant of the Innova Hycross.
It is said that Toyota had also planned to stop production of the Innova Crysta, but due to a shortage of semiconductor chips for the Innova Hycross, it decided to continue the model till the end of FY2024. That being said, the re-introduction of the Innova Crysta has received a positive response from the market and hence the carmaker is now likely to continue selling the MPV till FY2025.
The Toyota factory at Bidadi is also manufacturing the Maruti Suzuki Grand Vitara since its launch. With over 1,40,000 bookings, the SUV has a waiting period of 3-6 months.
Source: Autocar Pro
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BHPian samitjain recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
My impression after driving Innova from Delhi to Ranthambore and back:
Issues:
The second-row AC blower when closed pushed some air onto the driver's head. The original Innova blower placement was much better
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