I felt that manoeuvring in tight spaces was easy with the Crysta, even though the steering was heavier.

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Got my Hycross VX 7S 5 days back and am feeling very excited. Never felt it to be so powerful and I just love driving it. Could drive only 150 km and the system shows 13.3 km/l mileage. It was completely city driving with moderate traffic.

Not to mention the pros as everyone has already done it. So I am mentioning only the things which I didn't like. (Compared to my Crysta 2.4 Gx)

1. No cooled Glovebox - I seriously miss this, Crysta had an extra compartment and I used to keep bottled water in it.
2. No illumination for the power window buttons - This is one of the shittiest cost-cutting done by Toyota and it is difficult to locate the buttons at night.
3. You can't turn off the parking lights at night. The parking lights turn on even if the lights are set to off. The other two modes are "ON" and "Auto" which turns on the headlight.
4. No mute button on the Infotainment system and steering control, I have to turn off the system.
5. There is a voice button on the steering control but it doesn't work.
6. The bonnet feels much bigger from the inside, I felt that manoeuvring in tight spaces was easy on Crysta (Yes, the steering was heavy though).
7. The cameras and shitty, the aftermarket camera on my Crysta was much better. The side camera view won't be useful at all.
8. Crysta had a cool mini clock on the dashboard, here I should look at the infotainment system.
9. The doors need to be closed harder than Crysta, don't know whether it is a con but my parents find it quite difficult to reopen and close again with more power.
10. Third-row ingress on the Crysta was much better with more space after the seat folds.
11. Even the Crysta GX had 3 airbags but this has only 2.
12. On rough roads, there is an annoying rattling sound in the middle left row, need to get it checked.
13. The blue illumination in the cabin feels like an Alibaba Accessory.

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Till date, the Innova has contributed 46% of Toyota’s sales in India and remains an anchor product for the brand.

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Toyota Innova enters the "Million Club".

Launched in 2005 and spanning over three generations, the Toyota Innova crossed the one million wholesale mark in February 2023:

With this new sales milestone, Innova has joined the "million" sales club in India, thus expanding its member group to 13 products. The most amazing thing is that all other products are under 4 metres in length (except the Maruti Dzire from 2008–2012), and the Innova is longer than 4.5 metres, has a much bigger engine, and is the most expensive in this prestigious club:

nnova started its journey with the tagline "All you desire," and it stayed true to itself. As an MUV, it was very spacious, with easy ingress and egress, having a usable third row seat for adults, upmarket interiors akin to sibling Corolla, optional captain seats in the second row, a large glasshouse, great AC for Indian driving conditions, stable highway manners, a great ride over broken surfaces thus reducing travel fatigue, a decent level of equipment in line with industry trend, and a decent drivetrain offering. Innova also broke the traditional Indian boxy MUV design theme by incorporating a kinematic design theme into the overall design language and having the sloping bonnet line, swept back headlamp, highly raked A-pillar, triangular tail lamps, and curvaceous rear drop line.

All these attributes made it an all-rounder premium car over and above the conventional MPV image. On top of all that, there were the hallmark bulletproof reliability and low maintenance costs of Toyota, which made it a very compelling proposition. Innova can put lakhs and lakhs of kilometres on the odometer and still stay young forever. As a result, its resale value never drops dramatically over time. This made Toyota increase Innova’s prices ever while still being able to sell more cars until 2018, thus defying the price elasticity of demand curve in the Indian passenger vehicle market. In a way, Innova redefined what premium means in the mass market category.

30% of sales in the first generation came from fleet operators, and the rest were in the personal segment. Since the second generation Innova became more expensive, the fleet segment mix got reduced to 5%. Innova has always maintained a premium taxi image for itself, and mere one, two, or three occupants in a taxi Innova are also a common sight. What it means is that customers book an Innova as a taxi for a comfortable ride and premium feel over the utilitarian aspect of a conventional MUV.

Innova, from the beginning, had a ladder-frame chassis and a RWD architecture, which Toyota called the IMV platform (Innovative Multipurpose Vehicle), which was shared with other products like the Fortuner and the Hilux. Innova came with a petrol and diesel drivetrain option. Demand for petrol-powered drivetrains has always been low due to their relatively low fuel efficiency. Toyota has also introduced a CNG kit in 2009 from Minda Auto Gas.

In 2010, Toyota upgraded the Innova to meet BS4 emission norms with the addition of an intercooler and an altered catalytic converter.

With the second generation of Innova (with the Crysta suffix), Toyota became way too generous with its drivetrain offering and introduced two different and more powerful diesel engines, as well as an automatic transmission option for both petrol and diesel. The price increase was also substantial.

With the start of the BS6 emission phase in April 2020, Toyota consolidated its offering and discontinued the powerful diesel option for the Innova.

With the third generation, Toyota is taking a big leap of faith by introducing the monocoque-chassis Innova with FWD architecture, and that too without a diesel engine. To address the need for higher fuel efficiency, Toyota has introduced a strong hybrid drivetrain, and this generation got the new Hycross suffix. Since petrol Innova till date has contributed only 1.6% of sales, the risk seems somewhat calculated, as Toyota for the first time in India has shown willingness to continue with older generation diesel Innova (Crysta), together with the new generation (Hycross), for a smoother transition rather than an abrupt and rude sales shock.

In its first generation, the highest sales were achieved in 2012 at 75,911 units. Lifetime's highest sales of 78,130 units were achieved later in 2018, when the Indian passenger vehicle market also touched its last peak. Since then, sales of Innova have dropped in line with the overall market and later due to a supply chain shortage in 2022, which limited sales just before the generational transition:

Despite being an expensive car, Innova broke into the top #10 ranking three times in its lifetime and maintained a very decent ranking till 2018.

Toyota product portfolio:

Till date, Innova has contributed 46% of Toyota’s sales in India and remains an anchor product for the brand.

Competition:

Over the years, Innova has maintained a healthy market share in the MUV segment, which is largely made up of lower-priced offerings. Since 2018, other products have expanded the segment. In recent times, Kia is the only player that has had success, with Carens positioned just below Innova:

The monthly average sales rate is still very impressive, as Innova is a premium offering in the Indian market. Others also tried but could not challenge Innova on its turf.

White space in the MUV segment:

The above infographic from 2022 shows that there is white space available in the Indian MUV segment for growth. It also clearly depicts that only a handful of manufacturers were cleverly able to capitalise on potential in the MUV segment. And Toyota is one of them, with Innova being the brand's breadwinner in India, along with the Fortuner in the SUV segment.

On a side note, I was expecting Toyota to have started this milestone celebration from the production line itself with something similar to below:

However, it seems their current marketing and PR team is not competent enough to pull off an incredible marketing campaign like they did with Aamir Khan way back when Innova was launched. In fact, the launches of the Hyryder and Innova Hycross were all over the place, whereas Maruti had a well-planned and executed launch for the Grand Vitara at the same time:

Having said all that, I am a big fan of the Toyota Innova. While travelling outstation, either on a business trip or a leisure trip within India, the most important thing I look for is the availability of an Innova as a taxi, as it makes the journey very comfortable. As Innova has made me believe since 2005, "when the going (roads) gets tough, the tough (Innova) get going". I am also sure that many of you must also be having your cherished moments with Innova, either as owners or as travellers like me.

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I've driven this car on good and bad roads, highways, and in the ghat sections. It has also been used in the city quite extensively.

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It’s been a week since I got the delivery of my Toyota Innova Hycross (ZXO). I had a very good experience with Nandi Toyota. They have been extremely helpful and transparent. I took the car for a Bangalore-Goa trip and back after completing about 200 kms within Bangalore city. I have driven it on good roads, bad roads, highways, ghat sections (not too steep) and a lot of flat twisty roads too.

Thoughts

1. The car is extremely nimble. Very easy to manoeuvre in the city and really easy to drive on the highways too. Just two fingers are enough to steer the car on a bend even at high speeds. Steering is light but does not compromise too much in lack of feel. It is surprisingly good at cornering for an MPV and barely any body roll.
2. The ghat sections were a breeze and effortless, unlike Crysta’s hydraulic steering.
3. The car has enough power and torque to overtake on the highways. There was no lack of torque on inclines, even when the accelerator was pressed only halfway. (My car was not loaded at all, just two people and two suitcases).
4. The brakes are much better than the Crysta. Braking at 120-140 kmph is not a problem with no vibrations at all. The four discs really help.
5. Even though the suspension is soft, there is not much vertical movement felt in the car.
6. No rattling sounds inside the car.
7. The infotainment system is simple yet functional, I have no complaints about it.
8. The driver seat has a welcome feature where it moves back and then moves forward into position once the car is started (like in the 2010 Superb), something that I really missed from that car. Ventilated seats are such a blessing on long drives, even though they are not as strong as the ones in the 2022 Superb.
9. The MID was showing an average of 16kmpl during the first 200kms which was driven in the city. After running the car on highways and ghat sections, it showed an average of 15.2kmpl. The mileage did not drastically reduce on inclines like I had expected it to. Overtaking on single-lane roads with oncoming traffic is what really kills the mileage figures. I have not tried to calculate the mileage myself yet. These mileage figures are probably because of the way I drove as I am still getting used to the car, maybe others could get better economy figures from the car.
10. ADAS- DRCC and BMS work well. However, the lane keep assist doesn’t work properly most of the time. Lane departure warning does work properly though, and the steering vibrates every time the car leaves a lane. IMHO, we cannot properly make use of ADAS in our country because of the road conditions and the way people drive on our roads. It is something that may seem cool in the beginning but will never be used properly later on. Buyers who are on the fence about ZX vs ZXo, if you opt for ZX then you would not miss out on much, especially in the long run. The ADAS features could be more useful on better expressways, like the Delhi-Mumbai one. I have not got a chance to use those roads yet.
11. Lane keep assist has to be turned off every time I turn the car on. I don’t trust it enough to use it and I couldn’t find a way of permanently turning it off.
12. Bad patches of roads are felt more in the cabin compared to the Crysta. The Crysta could just float over bad patches without feeling anything in the cabin. The Hycross is not too bad though. It will be better if one upgrades the tyres and increases the side wall height. But there is no beating the body on frame on bad patches of roads.

The car is now due for its first service. Overall, I have had a good experience with the car and I am happy with the decision of sticking with the Hycross. Most of the other points have already been covered on this thread, in test drive reviews.

The quality of the interior was not a dealbreaker for me, the VAG cars do provide better interiors for an extra 5-10 lakhs. I didn’t really expect good interiors from a Toyota anyways.

The Hycross is not an enthusiast’s car, it is just a people mover and it does its task really well. It is best suited for city driving and occasional highway driving, but it did really impress me with the cornering and high-speed stability. Nothing close to the Germans but they are of a different segment and don’t offer Toyota’s reliability or resale value so it wouldn’t be a fair comparison.

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My XUV500 has better quality plastics than this, even felt the Glanza's plastics were much better.

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Had a look at the ZX at Nandi Toyota on Friday. My observations:

Pros:

• Looks great from the front and rear.
• Amazing Colors: The Sapphire Black looks brilliant
• Driver Seat is very comfortable. Makes life easier with all the bells and whistles.

While I wait to drive the car, the real cons, which are more or fewer deal breakers for me are:

• Quality of Plastics: My XUV 500 was way way better, at half the price. Matter of fact, there was a Glanza that was parked in the showroom and the plastics on that were much better. Clicked some pictures of the same.
• The Lever to open the bonnet: My 1999 Santro had a better quality lever. Not that I open the bonnet every day, but in colloquial Kannada, this is called "Tagadu Dabbasi"
• Ottoman Seats: Useless - I am not 6"; At 5"7' I will never be able to use them at full support. Legs get stuck below the driver's seat.
• Rear Seats: Old Innova and Crysta possibly had better seats. 3 People could easily sit. This effectively is a 6-seater. The last seat is not for 3 people. Extremely difficult to rest the head on the headrest with 3 people in the 3rd row. The under-thigh support will not really help in long-distance journeys.
• The Lights in the cabin: My 2013 XUV-500 had all LED lights. Going back to normal bulbs!! Cost cutting is needed - But to this level?

Conclusion

I think except for the engine, (Which I haven't really experienced, My XUV 500 was way better than this. I am possibly moving out of this and going for the Fortuner even though that is a big stretch financially. A stretch of 10L is better than rueing with a car that you don't like for the next 10 years!

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Build quality is reasonably good and on par with the current Crysta.

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Hycross VX 8 seater bench variant in Super White is on display at Sonak Toyota, Bavdhan, Pune.

I did look around and sat in all 3 rows in the display VX variant but didn't take a test drive as I have no immediate plans.

I am 5ft 7inch and currently drive a 2016 Jazz 1.2 VX MT. I have also been driven around in Crysta owned by close relatives. Here are my observations and not in any particular order.

Positives

• Huge road presence and sitting on the top feeling rather than sitting in. Massive size and length.
• Acres of cabin space all around and a very airy feeling cabin with large glass all around.
• Usable and practical 3rd-row seats with decent knee room for average-built Indian (up to 5.8 height).
• Good view from IRVM.
• Almost zero blind spot from A-pillar due to good placement of ORVMs and quarter window. A-pillar too is a little far from the driver.
• Build quality is reasonably good and on par with the current Crysta. Very heavy bonnet. Very little flex in body panels.
• Better Front passenger knee room compared to Crysta.
• Nicely sized and comfortably placed front armrest.
• The Centre console looks good and is imposing. I am not referring to infotainment but that entire centre console with gear stick, auto-ac controls and other switches.

Negatives

• Huge slabs of hard plastics on door panels and dashboard. The plastic texture is a big letdown in getting that rich premium feel.
• No glossy plastics on door panels anywhere.
• 2nd-row door panels have flex owing to the retractable sunshade mechanism
• Missing backlit switches on all doors.
• Inner chrome door handles and lock unlock buttons are a straight lift from Crysta.
• Lack of tactile and rich feel on buttons.
• Depressing non-led yellow lights all around the cabin and awkward-looking ambient light strips.
• Only single light in the boot.
• The bench seat armrest is not at its natural height and is sloping downward. I was not comfortable with my hand placement.
• Sliding and tilting the middle row does not allow big cargo space for that house to shift or bringing furniture from the market.
• That empty engine bay look and visible hollow fender panels.
• Roofliner is not a fabric type.

Neutral

• The steering wheel size is smaller compared to Crysta.
• Leather quality on the Steering wheel.
• Door thuds similar to Crysta. Need a little push to close them properly.
• Heavy boot door.
• Fit and finish all around.
• Seat fabric and texture.

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The Innova Hycross VX (O) variant is available in 7-seater and 8-seater configurations priced from Rs 26.73 lakh.

Toyota has silently introduced a new variant of the Innova Hycross. The VX (O) trim is available in 7-seater and 8-seater configurations priced at Rs 26.73 lakh and Rs 26.78 lakh (ex-showroom), respectively.

The new Innova Hycross VX (O) is positioned between the VX and ZX trims. It is offered with a panoramic sunroof with mood lighting, LED fog lamps, a 10-inch touchscreen infotainment system with wireless Apple CarPlay connectivity and 6 airbags.

The Innova Hycross has also received its first price hike since its launch. Prices for the petrol variants have increased by Rs 25,000, while the Hybrid trims now cost Rs 75,000 more. Following the latest price hike, the base price of the Innova Hycross (G 7-seater) is Rs 18.55 lakh, while the top-spec ZX (O) variant costs Rs 29.72 lakh (ex-showroom).

The Innova Hycross is available with a pure petrol and petrol-hybrid powertrain. The 2.0-litre petrol puts out 172 BHP and 197 Nm. The strong-hybrid version also uses a 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder petrol engine paired with Toyota’s 5th-gen strong-hybrid tech for a combined output of 183 BHP. Both engines are offered with a CVT that drives the front axle.

The headroom for the 2nd row and 3rd row was actually better in VX as compared to ZX

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I got a chance to visit the Toyota showroom in Faridabad. I got to see both the ZX and VX versions.

1. Hycross looks really good in the Super White colour.
2. The Tyre size actually looks good in the VX variant and no upgrade is required.
3. For the 2nd-row captain seats variant, I found that the under-thigh support in VX is better than ZX (ottoman folded).
4. The seat fabric in VX felt really soft and comfortable and it will be a boon during Indian summers.
5. The headroom for the 2nd row and 3rd row was actually better in VX as compared to ZX
6. Fog lamps are missing in VX and will be added as an accessory from the dealer itself before delivery.
7. I also got a chance to connect my phone via Bluetooth in the VX version and I found the audio quality satisfactory and it exceeded my expectations.
8. The plastics including the overall fit and finish seem to be long-lasting.
9. The Volume up down button on the steering wheel felt odd to me. (It was nowhere near the quality of volume buttons in Hyundai cars)
10. The steering wheel felt small to my liking but it may be handy and easy to use in long run.

I am overall impressed by this offering by Toyota and I have decided not to cancel the booking and proceed with the delivery process after the test drive.

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For my usage, although the hybrid SUV feels overpriced, it is still a better VFM option than the Hycross.

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I had booked Hyryder and yesterday I went to do PDI of the car allotted to me at Toyota Noida. The moment I reached the showroom, my parents immediately reached the spot where p\Pearl white colour Hycross was displayed it was a VX variant. For a moment we had forgotten that we had come for a pre-delivery inspection of Hyryder. We spent 30 minutes with the Hycross and my mother checked the on-road price on the brochure and immediately said, "son this Hycross is priced at Rs 28 lakh and it appears like a 40 lakh car, on the other hand, the car you are buying is a Rs 22 lakh car but it appears like a 15 lakh car. Please cancel your Hyryder booking and instead pay Rs 6 lakh more and buy this Hycross. To have further discussions with the family we immediately left the showroom without the PDI. In the evening, I went to the biggest showroom in North India. One thing I noticed at various showrooms is that the waiting period for the VX variant is not the same across showrooms. At most places, it's 15 months for all Hybrid Variants but at some showrooms, it's 2-4 months. Something is seriously wrong with the Toyota booking process.

I could not sleep yesterday and the pros and cons of owning Hycross were crossing my mind. I can not wait too long before I ask the showroom to pass on my Hyryder to the next customer in the queue.

Today morning it was very clear to me, I just can't use Hycross for my daily use and decided to go back to the showroom for Hyryder PDI. We are a small family with 4 adults and a small kid

I drive 90% of the time alone to my work. I am a doctor and my use case involves driving a lot after a tiring day of work. Most of the time while driving either I am too tired, feel sleepish and my reflexes are really down. Although I consider myself an expert driver with an experience of more than 3 lakh km, but I am now on the wrong side of 40 yrs, so my reflexes are further going to go down. That's one of the reasons now I am looking to buy automatic cars instead of manual. I have driven Safari and Hector a lot so I am comfortable driving SUVs of this size. But Hycross feel way too big than both of these, the size was really intimidating. Although it's just 5 cm bigger than Hector and 10 cm bigger than Safari.

So what happens if I own Hycross for daily use?

I will drive for a year or two and it develops scratches and ugly dents in my crump-ish hospital parking. I start avoiding trips which involve parking in tight spots, so my in-city trips need to be well-planned. I decide to use Hycross only on those days when I am expected to reach the hospital early, I may find a good parking spot easily. My yearly denting painting charges keep increasing and my resale value keeps falling. I finally decide to hire a chauffeur for my work. Or I may decide to buy another small car for just those days. Or I may decide to sell it off after 3/4 years.

So the whole thought just defeats the purpose of owning a hybrid as my monthly usage will come down. I just feel the car is oversized by at least 4-6 inches for my use case. Why don't they just launch Corolla Altis with a hybrid engine? That would fit my use case.

So finally did the PDI of Hyryder today and will do the final payment on Monday.

Now the reasons - why I felt Hycross is better value for money than Hyryder:

1. It's a 5th generation proper Toyota hybrid car, using the latest TNGA-C platform and the latest p610 gearbox. This same platform is used by a large number of Toyota and Lexus cars.
2. Built quality is the best in the segment. It's almost tank-like.
3. Powerful engine. I compared the specifications with a similar specs hybrid engine used in Hector launched in Indonesia. The combined torque figure of the Hybrid Hector is 320nm. So the combined torque figures of the Toyota Hycross are definitely more than that of the hybrid Hector.
4. Features such as Paddle shifters, manual mode gearbox, 360 camera, front parking sensor, electronic parking brakes with Autohold, auto fold side view mirrors, beautiful automatic headlights and taillights are found even in the base VX variant. And of course the colour scheme (Pearl white, Blackish Ageha glass flakes). Some of these features are missing even in the top Variant of Hyryder, that's a shame.
5. Probably the best aftersales value in the used car market.

So although I am continuing with my Hyryder booking, it definitely feels over-priced by at least 5 lakh.

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MID fuel efficiency figure in the city was around 16 - 17 km/l.

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Even though the car belongs to the first batch of cars (TKIM date 23 Jan 2023), I don't see major niggles so far. Etios, which I bought in the second month 12 years ago, had few rattlings. This one is rattle free.

The car has excellent wind noise control. VX and above have acoustic control windshields which seems to make a difference. Wind noise is very less even at 120 km/h despite the size which was a surprise for me. ZX has IR cut too and therefore should be even better with heat control as well.

Tyre noise insulation is average and you will hear the noise on old roads and concrete tarmac.

The second-row comfort is rated excellent by the family. High-speed cornering and curves and road undulations don't bother much.

After I started driving faster and like my previous sedan now, in the cities the mileage is around 16 to 17 km/l now. It may go a little less in heavy traffic, but should still be more than 15 in the worst traffic conditions too. These are MID figures.

On the highway, the mileage is not going to differ much until the speed of 120 km/h. It was nice to see the car in the green eco range even when cruising above 110. Power range is touched only when you accelerate to reach a particular speed.

Once the car started on the regular mode instead of EV, probably when the battery was not having enough juice. The mileage was around 10 km/l during that 3 km trip.

The paddle shifter is handy and helpful to overtake when you are driving in eco mode.

The service manual says the spark plug replacement is once every 1,00,000 km as against once every 20,000 km that was in my previous cars. That's some saving.

Niggles faced:

1. The trip mileage showed blank once. It never happened again.
2. The tank average I had set for the MID got reset once, not sure why.
3. I am missing the two trip meters that I had in my Etios. I am yet to figure out how to have multiple trips tracked at the same time.

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Felt the Innova hycross has more compromise than the Crysta - a car tailored for India.

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Got a chance to test drive the HyCross. I have a 1.1L driven EcoSport TDCI MT and most of my observations are relative to it and a very short test drive of around 3 km.

1. First impression - I did not get a feeling that I was sitting in a car costing 3 times more than my existing ride.
2. Finding a comfortable driving position was easy. Overall visibility is good - it’s too restrictive in EcoSport and Compass is the best I found in the recent past.
3. Power didn’t feel like it was almost double my existing ride nor was it punchy - maybe better insulation? However, I didn’t feel a lack of pulling power (there was a flyover climb) and did hit 80 km/h on the flyover itself - it was on power mode though.
4. I tried to paddle to downshift more than a couple of times, but couldn’t feel any change in engine response. Power modes also had very subtle changes in engine response. First time with AT and I never released the accelerator pedal purposefully - don’t know if this is the right way.
5. Expansion joints were felt more than EcoSport - I’ll give it to high tyre pressure but I didn’t confirm the pressure.
6. Third-row seats are more comfortable than the Crysta in terms of knee-up and under-thigh support. The backrest recline angle is not executed properly though as the backrest incline changes the seat base recline as well - Fiesta gen 1 seat height adjusts anyone.
7. Second-row seat rails were an eyesore and it is not flush with the floor; got to watch out while moving around. This isn’t executed well in my opinion.
8. 8 seater second-row armrest was opening up itself if you tilt the seat back forward to allow 3rd-row ingress. It is definitely not designed/bolted properly. Also, the hinges were nakedly exposed from the LH seat if the backrest angle is set differently.
9. I wasn’t able to engage the parking brake on ‘N’. The driver accompanying said parking button of no use and self engages on ‘P’. Took it with a pinch of salt. Anyone here knows about this?
10. Waiting period - the SA offered to deliver by end of the month and I was like scratching my head and recollecting waiting periods being heard around. . I declined.

I am looking for a 5 seater with good boot space. With a budget of 25 to 30 and peace of mind as one of the important criteria now, I cannot look beyond Toyota’s MUV. To me, each vehicle has some compromise, but I felt that HyCross has more compromises than Crysta (except the BS6 diesel issue which cannot be categorised as a compromise) - a car tailored for India.

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