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BHPian Balmagbrzjim recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
We have the XV Premium CVT variant and right from the beginning, the warning lights w.r.t ESC, ABS, Hill hold usually comes up whenever there was a three point manouvre in tight parking spaces and the warning lights won't go. The solution was to switch off and on the car completely after a few minutes. The warning signs are still there but with break pedal pressed and a slight steering movement, all the warning signs disappear. It was a major eyesore as well as inconvience. During the first service, the service centre guys finally accepted that yes, there is a problem and the whole ABS module needs to be changed. Any owner who has faced this issue???
Also, there was this steering alignment towards the right and a right pull while driving in a straight line right from the beginning. The vehicle was at the service centre on the very next day of delivery and they fixed the alignment issue. Now after the 1st service, when I took the trial, the same issue cropped up. The guys kept me waiting till 7:30 PM till they did multiple wheel alignment/steering adjustments and trials.
After so much frustration, I got the vehicle back and still there is a very miniscule amount of steering misalignment and right pull which I only am experiencing. The guys told me that they will fix all the problems at the time of ABS module replacement.
After 1 week, I got this message for feedback and I vented out all the frustration and niggles while giving a very low rating.
I hope no one has experienced this issue and Nissan listens to the feedback.
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BHPian dudevarkey recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Nissan Magnite's rear left wheel bearing is damaged at just 18000 Kms. My standard warranty got expired and I am on extended warranty, this issue surfaced two days after the expiry of standard warranty (a week after the 2nd service) and Nissan has rejected the warranty claim saying Terms & Conditions of Extended Warranty says bearings are not covered.
The car has clocked just 18000 kilometres and I haven't driven on water logged areas/ muddy roads or on off-roads. The wheel alignment and balancing done every 5000 kilometres. Still bearing has failed, which is supposed to last much longer. Had written to customer care and also spoken to Nissan ASM. The ASM says he can give 50% discount as a goodwill gesture.
This is not an isolated case, I know a few other people who had issue with the wheel bearing and luckily they were all under standard warranty hence they got it changed under warranty. The point is there is some quality/design issue with the part, otherwise wheel bearings never fail at such low kilometres and it is not fair from the side of Nissan to reject warranty for a part which is not supposed to get damaged so soon.
I started getting the humming sound a week after 2 year service and just after 2 days of expiry of warranty. Since they have a clause saying bearings are not covered under EW, the warranty claim is rejected.
Extremely disappointed with how things has turned out and the way Nissan is handling customer complaints.
Here's what BHPian SideView had to say on the matter:
50% goodwill i think is good. Unlucky with the end timing of standard warranty.
I would say accept it and forget about it. Are you only replacing one wheel or they proactively replacement of all after checking?
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Nissan has silently introduced the 2023 edition of the Magnite. The crossover now comes equipped with a host of safety features.
The Nissan Magnite is available in five variants: XE, XL, XV Executive, XV and XV Premium. The standard safety kit on the car includes electronic stability control, traction control, hill start assist, hydraulic brake assist and a tyre pressure monitoring system. The top variant gets a 360-degree camera and over 50 connected car features along with Smartwatch connectivity.
The 2023 Magnite is available with the same set of engines, except that they are now RDE-compliant. The 1.0-litre 3-cylinder petrol unit puts out 71 BHP and 96 Nm, while the 1.0-litre turbo-petrol engine makes 99 BHP and 160 Nm. Both engines come with a 5-speed manual transmission, with the latter getting a CVT option.
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BHPian akg7091 had shared his harrowing experience with his Nissan Magnite before.
He had the following update to share on the matter:
The saga, hopefully, comes to an end ! Took delivery of the car late evening.
Special shout out to the GM service at Neo Nissan whose involvement in the past 2-3 months at least made things move. He was ALWAYS approachable and helpful. Hope Nissan India improves their processes and controls.
Edit : Forgot to add that the dealership offered to send a pickup car to my house. Kudos for this small but appreciable gesture. Not a single call from any senior person at Nissan though it is obvious my mass email is one of the reasons for the quick resolution of the issues being faced. I hope Nissan India improves their CS going forward. Taking feedback from existing customers might help then both retain and get new customers.
PS : Took the below pic on an empty elevated road driving at 60 with cruise control. The powertrain is a gem.
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A car's suspension ultimately determines the way it rides and handles - factors which are instrumental in determining the purchase for enthusiasts. Suspensions may be tuned to provide a plush ride (soft) or very sharp handling (firm). Some might be tuned keeping in mind a balance between ride & handling.
So, what's your kind of suspension tune?
Soft (comfortable)
A soft suspension is not rigid. In general, this gives the vehicle a plush low-speed ride. Even when the road gets rough, occupants will not be uncomfortable. This sort of suspension is ideal for commuting as the comfort of occupants is prioritised.
On the downside, a soft suspension will make a car prone to body roll. Such a suspension is not suitable if the driver gets enthusiastic in corners. Again, a soft suspension will make the car wallowy at high speeds. This setup is not for enthusiastic drivers.
Examples of cars with a soft suspension setup:
MG Hector
Skoda Octavia
Kia Carnival
Maruti Ciaz
Medium (balance)
A medium suspension setup sits between a soft and firm one. It provides a good balance of ride and handling. In such cases, the car will have a compliant ride for the most part and acceptable handling for an enthusiastic driver. Such a setup is ideal for those who use their cars for commuting from Monday to Friday, and enjoy blasting on a winding country road on a Sunday morning.
Negatives? It's neither here nor there. Sometimes, one might just feel that he could do with a more plush ride or, if the roads in the area are really good, get a car that has a firmer suspension. While handling is not poor in a car with a medium suspension setup, it won't be as sharp as a car with a firm suspension.
Examples of cars with a medium suspension setup:
Skoda Kushaq
Maruti Grand Vitara
BMW 3-series
Citroen C5 Aircross
Firm (sporty)
A firm suspension is more rigid than the other two setups. In the case of most firm suspension setups, passengers will feel all the bumps and irregularities on the road, which translates to a jiggly low-speed ride.
However, a firm suspension setup gives a vehicle superior handling. There is less body roll and corners can be taken at higher speeds. The suspension is quick to recover on hitting dips and undulations on the road, which also results in better high-speed stability. 100+ kmph ride comfort on expressways is generally better with firmer suspensions (more planted feel). Those after performance and handling are more likely to enjoy a firm suspension setup.
Examples of cars with a firm suspension setup:
Kia Seltos
Ford Ecosport
Volkswagen Tiguan
Tata Nexon
Nissan Magnite
Special Mention = Adjustable Suspensions
Clearly giving you the best of both worlds, adjustable suspensions come with a "soft" setting which greatly enhances comfort by delivering a plush, softer ride. Flick the magic button on the open road & things firm up, making the suspension more dynamically-oriented now. The Kodiaq is the first car in its segment to offer adjustable dampers & we sure hope other brands / cars follow. This dual-personality is a MUST-HAVE for India, thanks to our varying road conditions.
Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
In my 20s, I'd have nodded vigorously & voted for "firm & sporty" . Today? No way. My first choice is "medium" . Extremely happy with the balance of cars like the 3-Series, Kushaq / Slavia, C5, etc. This is perfect for India. Will reward you for the 10% of the times you are driving hard & keep you acceptably comfortable for the other 90%. Stiff & firm suspensions are no longer for me - heck, I'd pick an Octavia or Hector tune over a stiff back-breaking setup. My sister drives a Tiguan and I hate travelling in it to Pawna. Do consider the aftermarket also = My next car (arriving in December) has a bumpy suspension, so I’ve already gotten an after-market suspension which improves ride comfort. There is plenty of high quality aftermarket support today.
Here's what BHPian Dr.AD had to say on the matter:
I voted for "Medium (Balanced)".
For Indian driving conditions, and for my long weekend drives on mixed highways and rural roads conditions, a well-balanced suspension is my choice. I am quite happy with the suspensions of my F30 3-series, which falls in this well balanced category.
However, for pure highway drives, I would like a firm and sporty suspension. On some fast runs on smooth highways, I find my F30 suspensions a bit too soft for my liking (even when I am running Run Flat Tyres). I would have loved them to be a tad firmer for those conditions. And that is why I find it amusing when people complain of harshness of RFTs on F30s (or even G20s, which are not firm by any standards). For me, even with RFTs, the F30 or G20 ride is a bit too soft for highways (but perfect for bad rural roads and overall mixed driving conditions).
On a couple of times, I got a ride in an M340i on long highways (Bangalore to Chennai), and loved that ride. M340i has optimal firmness for highway drives. I really like that sporty firm feel on the highways. So maybe, my choice would be somewhere between medium to firm suspensions in general, for our driving conditions.
What I absolutely do not like is soft suspensions. That soft, wallowy ride is the worst, and no matter what the conditions, I would stay away from such soft cars.
Here's what BHPian aravind.anand had to say on the matter:
My daily driver is a Fiesta 1.6S with sport-tuned firm suspension. Apart from the corners where it makes me smile, there are far too many bumps and ruts that have caused me to wince and cringe.
I had to think twice between soft & medium suspensions before voting, I dream of a cushy ride that much! Considering the condition of roads in our country, firm is definitely not enjoyable.
I finally chose medium, as soft suspensions will roll too much and also tend to bob up & down at highway speeds.
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Hyundai is said to be working on a new compact SUV for the Indian market. The new model is expected to rival the likes of the Tata Punch, Citroen C3, Renault Kiger and Nissan Magnite.
According to a media report, the new entry-level crossover will be positioned below the Venue in Hyundai’s model line-up. It is expected to go on sale in 2023 during the festive season.
The report also reveals that the model under development has been codenamed ‘Ai3 CUV’. It is also said that Hyundai had evaluated this segment in 2016-17, but the project only received the final go-ahead before the outbreak of the Covid-19 pandemic.
In 2021, the Hyundai Casper was introduced in global markets. It is based on the K1 platform and measures just over 3.5 meters in length. Reports suggest that the new model will be slightly bigger than that.
Source: Autocar India
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BHPian akg7091 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Dropped the car off at the dealership today
I hope someone from Nissan India reads this thread. I want Nissan to succeed. I haven't faced any issues with the kicks / redigo we bought. It's only the magnite where the poor quality of parts used is showing up within a year of use. They need to audit the parts supplied by vendors to ensure their specs are being met. Wonderful car - great engine / gearbox / mileage. Poor QC.
Apart from a few misses, the dealership employees have been helpful. No complaints except "forgetting" about the work to be done for 3 weeks ( ETA 3 days ) "twice !" and cleaning the tail lamp when I was told it had been replaced. Hopefully this time they will actually replace the tail lamp!
Update 1:
My car was supposed to be returned on Wednesday ( I had offered them to take a few more days and I will pick it up on Friday / Saturday lol ).
It's Saturday and no clue when I will get the car back. Nobody knows anything. The first clue that it's not gonna be returned on time was ........... when someone called me on Tuesday evening to ask me what is wrong with the car. It just stood there in the workshop for 2 days ! Got a call on Thursday by a lady to bring my car in for repairs!
I hope this thread reaches Rakesh ji's inbox somehow. The A.S.S is a mess
There is no customer care which will help you when dealers don't do their work. Nissan is not even 1% of how customer centric Maruti is.
Update 2:
Conference call with the ASM service. It has been discussed that the dealership will properly diagnose the issues and share a deadline for resolution tomorrow. Waiting for my magnite to come back home soon with all niggles fixed.
In 20 odd years of car ownership and service this is the first time I felt "lost" - nobody knows anything and there's no formal matrix for escalating to OEM. Every email to the customer care is just forwarded to the dealership. Nissan India CC doesn't even bother to try and resolve issues. Maruti is truly the gold standard of customer service and now I understand why it sells in such numbers - peace of mind .
Update 3
Nissan India CC is copied on EVERY email. A few other Nissan employees (guessed emails using linkedin) such as head customer quality North India are copied. 4+ months. 2 dozen odd emails documenting status. NOBODY at Nissan India has bothered to call back ( normal CC calls me and tells me they are looking into it but nothing happens after that
I got the number of the ASM service through a jugaad and he called back only when I texted / called him a few times. Nissan India is definitely the worst OEM in India. They make even MTNL look more customer service oriented
I can't believe Rakesh ji has setup such horrible processes after looking at how great he was at Hyundai. Seems that even he has given up and nobody's bothered about anything.
Update 4:
Went to pickup the vehicle. Things seem to be moving now but I am pretty sure nobody senior from Nissan has read this thread. All of the work discussed was done but there was still some sound ( ~20% of the original noise ) coming from the suspension which I pointed out to them during a test drive. I have been assured they will diagnose and fix this as well. They have promised to deliver the vehicle tomorrow but as I am travelling I will pick it up on Monday. Hope it's fixed properly this time because the workshop in my city has shut down ( today was their last day ) and the new workshop won't open for the next 2-3 months atleast.
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BHPian akg7091 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
My warranty claim has finally been approved after 6 months of waiting and showing that the issue was prevalent across multiple other cars in the workshop. It doesn't matter that the "chrome spotting" issue is not reported by any other users - what matters is it happened with me despite using RO water and PH neutral shampoos with micro fibers to clean the car twice a month. Warranty claims so far :
Nissan India has to figure out the post sales service and warranty processes. It's just too slow. Decent car - bad quality parts and meh service. I am pretty patient and don't mind waiting but 3 weeks to paint a panel ? A week and counting to replace some chrome bits ? I hope someone from Nissan reads this and takes this as feedback. We have bought 3 Nissan-Datsun cars in the family in the past 18 months from the same dealership. I have bet big on Rakesh ji's leadership. I hope my trust wasn't misplaced.
The claim that was approved after waiting for 6 months - now waiting for parts and updates from the dealership (dead DRLs being replaced, rear tail lamp had an insect and being replaced upon my request as a goodwill gesture).
On top of this, the bonnet that they repainted for paint chipping / bubbling - paint's started peeling off again ! They have told me they will repaint it again.
The car has spent 3 odd months in the workshop this year. I even offered to pay 50k if Nissan replaces my car with a new magnite of same model / variant / color just to solve the recurring issues I am facing.
Nissan India really needs to understand that we buy cars so we can drive them. Nobody really likes paying EMIs when the car is with the dealer for months ( Just a joke before Nissan India gets back with a rebuttal that no loan taken - I bought it cash down ! )
I want Nissan India to succeed. I have 3 cars in house from this brand - I still can't recommend this brand to anyone else. Great car. Perfect engine/cvt combo. Bad QC and horrible customer support. Kicks is a much better vehicle than Magnite when it comes to quality of parts used.
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BHPian iamitp recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Hello BHPians,
In a few months, my trusty Honda City 2007 AT will no longer be legally driveable in Delhi. It serves as my daily beater car, and I need to find a replacement.
My 'main' car is the Creta 1.4 DCT which I take on weekend drives and night-outs. I work in a Central Govt. office in Delhi, with pathetic parking conditions where cars are shoved and pushed around in neutral to make space. Monkeys abound as well, jumping on vehicles and defiling the paintwork. Hence, the Honda City over the Creta for my office commute. I am just over six feet tall, (over)weighing in at 120+ KGs with a lower back issue (slipped disc). My office drive is about 5 KM at present but may go up to 10 KM if shift houses and is almost always solo. I also use the beater as a backup car when my Creta is loaned to my brother, out for maintenance or if I am navigating narrow or crowded places.
Looking forward to getting expert suggestions from fellow BHPians. Do let me know if there are any other factors I should list.
Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
After 2 smooth ATs, no way you'd be able to live with a jerky AMT. Only CVTs or Torque Converters will do. Lots of options in the 7 - 8 lakh budget (click here for listings). As a beater, I would strongly consider a Baleno or Glanza CVT, Ciaz Automatic (top choice), i20 CVT and Amaze CVT (here's a neat 2019 model).
If you are willing to spend a little more, how about a used Magnite CVT? Taller seating might help your lower back issue. Turbo-engine can be fun. Almost new. Extend the warranty and you're all set.
Let us know what you finally pick.
Here's what BHPian Durango Dude had to say on the matter:
Get a Jazz CVT when it's available. It's spacious (albeit a little long in the tooth), smooth transmission, fuel efficiency, easy to punt around and park. Beater it is!
Here's what BHPian varoon9999 had to say on the matter:
Hi, I am at same spot as you, I am also looking for a reliable yet enjoyable automatic car under 7 lakhs. My search has zeroed down to Honda-Jazz after looking at other options. Jazz CVT seems to have a great resale value too, all the good/neat options are asking too much. Additionally, you may look for these options as well:
- Honda Brio (Limited options available in used market, the one available being sold for premium).
- Grand i10 (Lesser AT options to look at).
- Honda City (plenty options, but not sure you want such a big car again).
Here's what BHPian turbowhistle had to say on the matter:
Amaze CVT or even 2013-14 City CVT will be the best choice. You already know the brand and must have some kind of relationship with ASC/FNG and will have to just carry it forward. Even Brio/Jazz would be good choice if you can get the facelifted one ( but the stock is so less in the market I gather).
I won't suggest older Hyundais as the TC gearbox isn't as good as Honda CVT.
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Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
Am an AT guy now, and would prefer the Kia Sonet Diesel / Petrol AT. It's expensive, but the best of the lot IMHO. Among the MTs, I'd go for the XUV300 or the Nexon, although I have to say = Mahindra & Tata really need to offer proper ATs in their Compact SUVs. Enough with the jerky AMTs. The two Indian brands have done a fabulous job with ATs in their larger SUVs (XUV700, Scorpio, Safari, Harrier); it's now time to offer smooth automatics in the smaller crossovers.
Here's what BHPian SoumenD had to say on the matter:
Voted for Magnite CVT.
I know it's an unpopular opinion but I somehow find it the best VFM currently in the sub-4m subCompact Crossover segment. My reasons:
Pros:
- A potent engine(1.0 turbo) transmission(CVT) combo.
- Great GC & good ride quality for our crater-filled roads.
- Frugal enough 10-11 km/l in city & 16+ on highways as per owners.
- 4* with stable bodyshell GNCAP rating.
Cons:
- Interiors quality is not really great.
- A.S.S is a hit or miss.
This segment has so many options but sadly not one is really a complete car that one can go for without compromising on an aspect or other. I find this the best compromise in the segment amongst all options. If this were available in 2019, would have been my pick ahead of my Jazz CVT for which I paid a similar price. No complaints with the Jazz as such but for 10-12L I find Magnite is a better value proposition in the current market.
Brezza AT would have been my first choice but for the pricing. 17L+ OTR for a sub4m car is beyond me
Citroen C3 is another option am following which looks promising but in my current avatar won’t make the cut for me. No AT option and missing basics like rear wash/wipe, adjustable front headrests at least and electric ORVMs.
Here's what BHPian Maverick1977 had to say on the matter:
The Kiger is the most VFM car in this segment considering it gets a CVT and not an AMT (and this also makes me wonder how the Nexon is a VFM product?). I have tested almost all cars in this segment (except the new Brezza and the Citroen) and can vouch the Kiger stood above the rest. The CVT is much better to drive compared to all the AMTs. The Brezza and Urban Cruiser were still using the 4-speed TC when I tried them out. Not a bad package then but the GB felt a bit dated.
All those labelling the Nexon a VFM product, please take a test drive and then vote. It will change your views.
Here's what BHPian chinmaypillay had to say on the matter:
If it's a primary car, would go for the Nexon diesel because of the VFM it offers.
For a Second car, would go for the Citroen mainly because it is fun to drive and covers the basics a car enthusiast wants. Good ride and handling which reminds me of my first car Figo. Many cars of today have lost the plot of having actual driving fun while loading gizmos to the brim. Citroen covers the basics, would go for it.
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