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Battle of the Turbo-petrols: Tata Altroz Racer vs the competition

This is a poll to choose amongst Tata Altroz Racer, Hyundai i20 N Line, Maruti Suzuki Fronx Turbo, Citroen C3 Turbo and others. Which turbo-petrol car would you buy?

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Tata Altroz Racer

What you'll like:

  • 1.2L Turbo-Petrol offers good driveability & satisfactory performance
  • We love the Altroz's overall design. Has a solid build too
  • Well-priced for what it offers
  • Nice interior with good quality parts & adequate space
  • Accommodating 345-litre boot is among the biggest of the segment
  • Mature on-road behaviour, including at highway speeds
  • 5-star NCAP safety rating! Safety package includes six airbags, 360-degree camera, blind view monitor etc.
  • Enjoyable Harman 8-speaker ICE. One of the better audio systems in this segment
  • Impressive kit (auto headlamps & wipers, cruise control, air purifier, wireless charging, ventilated leatherette seats, sunroof, ambient lighting...)

What you won't:

  • Not really a hot hatch. Performance is fair, but not explosive. 0-100 in 11.3 seconds
  • Turbo-petrol is only offered in the Altroz Racer. Limited colour choices and those racing stripes won't be to everyone's liking
  • No automatic gearbox option in a market that loves its ATs
  • Notchy gearshift takes away some of the fun of driving
  • Only one drive mode - Sport. A city mode would have provided a smoother drive in traffic (it is jerky at low speeds)
  • Suspension has a firm edge at low speeds
  • Service visit every 6 months / 7,500 km (1 year / 10,000 km is the norm today)
  • Some missing features (auto-dimming IRVM, full size spare tyre, split-folding rear seat...)
  • Tata's after-sales service quality is a hit or miss. Remains a gamble

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Altroz 1.2L Turbo-Petrol's Review

Hyundai i20 N Line

What you'll like:

  • Aggressive styling with distinctive touches that set it apart from the garden-variety i20
  • Punchy 1.0 turbo-petrol motor with 118 BHP on tap
  • Firm yet compliant suspension coupled with a weighted steering + paddle shifters + fruity exhaust note that make the i20 N Line fun
  • Tasteful N Line-exclusive steering wheel, gear selector, red accents etc liven up the interior
  • Feature-rich equipment list includes cruise control, LED projectors, voice-activated sunroof, wireless charging & more
  • Spacious cabin with a 311 liter boot makes this a practical yet fun-to-drive car
  • Price premium over the regular i20 is totally justified by the additions & improvements
  • Safety kit = ESP, 6 airbags, rear disc brakes, Blue Link SOS, Hill Assist…

What you won't:

  • Although well-priced in relation to the i20 Asta variant, it is still an expensive hatchback
  • 1.0L DCT variant shows initial lag. Even otherwise, it’s not as explosive as VW’s 1.0 Turbo
  • Some misses such as auto wipers, split folding rear seats…
  • You absolutely need a tyre upgrade. The OEM rubber gives up easily
  • This 3rd-gen i20’s styling can be polarizing, unlike the more neutral previous generation cars
  • Dual-clutch ATs have had a troubled reliability record in India
  • More of a warmed-up hatchback in terms of power & handling, rather than a “hot hatch” like an Abarth Punto

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Maruti Suzuki Fronx Turbo

What you'll like:

  • Smart looking crossover with sharp & attractive styling
  • Feels better built than some other Maruti cars
  • 1.0L Boosterjet turbo-petrol engine is quick and has minimal turbo lag. Driveability is satisfactory
  • Smart Hybrid system ensures excellent fuel efficiency. ARAI = 20.01 to 22.89 km/l
  • Nicely tuned suspension glides over small bumps, potholes and road imperfections
  • User-friendly cabin with loads of space! Can easily seat 5 adults (unlike many competitors)
  • Long feature list includes LED auto headlamps, LED DRLs, cruise control, 9-inch touchscreen HU paired with an Arkamys sound system, 360-degree camera, head-up display, rear A/C vents, wireless charging, footwell lighting, tilt & telescopic steering adjustment, connected car features etc
  • Safety kit includes 6 airbags, 3-point seatbelts for all, ESP, traction control, hill-hold assist and ISOFIX
  • Maruti’s excellent after-sales service, wide dealer network & fuss-free ownership experiences

What you won't:

  • On the inside, it’s almost identical to the regular Baleno. Differentiation should’ve been more
  • Quality of some plastic parts and fabric upholstery is mediocre
  • 1.0L turbo-petrol although quick, is not exciting enough for enthusiasts
  • 308-litre boot is among the smallest in the segment
  • No diesel option like some rivals
  • Rear seat’s under-thigh support is lacking for taller passengers
  • A few missing features like sunroof, TPMS, rear armrest, drive modes, auto wipers and front parking sensors
  • Lesser height means, despite the smart styling, it doesn’t have the road presence of typical crossovers

Review Link

Citroen C3 Turbo

What you'll like:

  • Striking design! Very funky, yet likeable at the same time
  • Good-looking cabin that is practical too
  • Fast 1.2L turbo-petrol is genuinely fun-to-drive, while the 1.2L naturally-aspirated engine offers excellent driveability
  • 6-speed MT is slick and light to operate. Definitely one of the better gearboxes in the segment
  • Sorted suspension offers a very good ride & handling package
  • Compact size and light controls are perfect for the urban environment
  • 10-inch touchscreen with wireless Android Auto & Apple CarPlay is excellent to use
  • Lots of customization options and accessories to make your car truly unique

What you won't:

  • Missing plenty of features = electric ORVM adjustment, IRVM dimmer (not even manual), climate control, rear wiper & defogger, reversing camera, alloy wheels, tachometer!
  • Just 2 variants at launch (no true top variant)
  • No automatic transmission on offer - a big miss when ATs are rapidly gaining popularity in India
  • Quality of cabin materials doesn't feel great; cost-cutting is pretty evident in certain areas
  • Some ergonomic issues like the placement of rear power window switches, unusable rear headrests…
  • 1.2L NA petrol’s highway performance is mediocre; 5-speed MT is notchy too
  • Cabin width makes the interiors suitable for 4 adults, not 5
  • Long-term reliability & after-sales service quality are big unknowns; dealer network is tiny

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Toyota Urban Cruiser Taisor Turbo

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Nissan Magnite Turbo

What you'll like:

  • The Magnite looks really good…that handsome face is a head-turner
  • Sheer value-for-money pricing. Turbo-petrol with a proper AT under 10 lakhs!
  • Peppy performance from the Magnite’s 1.0L turbo-petrol engine
  • Smooth well-tuned CVT in a sea of jerky AMTs. Has Sport and L modes too
  • Healthy legroom for rear passengers. Space packaging is brilliant
  • Impressive kit (cruise control, LED headlamps, rear air-con vents, 360-degree camera, wireless charger, wireless Android Auto & Apple CarPlay)
  • 205 mm of ground clearance is more than enough for any kind of bad roads
  • Safety kit includes ESP, TPMS, ABS, EBD & hill start assist
  • Base variant also gets reasonable kit, including a rear wiper. It’s not poverty-spec

What you won't:

  • Stiff & basic ride quality. You feel each and everything on the road
  • The Magnite is built to a cost and it does show, especially in the budget-grade cabin
  • Lower variants’ 1.0L naturally-aspirated petrol is a boring, unimpressive engine
  • Clunky, firm MT gearshift & a clutch pedal that has more weight than it should
  • No diesel option available on the Nissan Magnite
  • Cabin is narrower than some competitors. Narrow width makes it best for 4 adults
  • Missing features such as an auto dimming IRVM, full-size spare tyre…
  • Doesn't have the finesse or quality of premium crossovers like the XUV300, Sonet etc.
  • Nissan's tiny dealership network & lousy after-sales quality

Review Link

Renault Kiger Turbo

First Drive

Ownership Review

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Toyota Taisor vs Maruti Fronx vs Citroen C3 vs Tata Punch vs others

The other cars that have been included in this comparison include Renault Kiger, Nissan Magnite and Hyundai Exter.

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Toyota Urban Cruiser Taisor

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Maruti Suzuki Fronx

What you'll like:

  • Smart-looking crossover with sharp & attractive styling
  • Feels better built than some other Maruti cars
  • 1.0L Boosterjet turbo-petrol engine is quick and has minimal turbo lag. Driveability is satisfactory
  • Smart Hybrid system ensures excellent fuel efficiency. ARAI = 20.01 to 22.89 km/l
  • Nicely tuned suspension glides over small bumps, potholes and road imperfections
  • User-friendly cabin with loads of space! Can easily seat 5 adults (unlike many competitors)
  • Long feature list includes LED auto headlamps, LED DRLs, cruise control, 9-inch touchscreen HU paired with an Arkamys sound system, 360-degree camera, head-up display, rear A/C vents, wireless charging, footwell lighting, tilt & telescopic steering adjustment, connected car features etc
  • Safety kit includes 6 airbags, 3-point seatbelts for all, ESP, traction control, hill-hold assist and ISOFIX
  • Maruti’s excellent after-sales service, wide dealer network & fuss-free ownership experiences

What you won't:

  • On the inside, it’s almost identical to the regular Baleno. Differentiation should’ve been more
  • Quality of some plastic parts and fabric upholstery is mediocre
  • 1.0L turbo-petrol although quick, is not exciting enough for enthusiasts
  • 308-litre boot is among the smallest in the segment
  • No diesel option like some rivals
  • Rear seat’s under-thigh support is lacking for taller passengers
  • A few missing features like sunroof, TPMS, rear armrest, drive modes, auto wipers and front parking sensors
  • Lesser height means, despite the smart styling, it doesn’t have the road presence of typical crossovers

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Citroen C3

What you'll like:

  • Striking design! Very funky, yet likeable at the same time
  • Good-looking cabin that is practical too
  • Fast 1.2L turbo-petrol is genuinely fun-to-drive, while the 1.2L naturally-aspirated engine offers excellent driveability
  • 6-speed MT is slick and light to operate. Definitely one of the better gearboxes in the segment
  • Sorted suspension offers a very good ride & handling package
  • Compact size and light controls are perfect for the urban environment
  • 10-inch touchscreen with wireless Android Auto & Apple CarPlay is excellent to use
  • Lots of customization options and accessories to make your car truly unique

What you won't:

  • No automatic transmission on offer - a big miss when ATs are rapidly gaining popularity in India
  • Quality of cabin materials doesn't feel great; cost-cutting is pretty evident in certain areas
  • Some ergonomic issues like the placement of rear power window switches, unusable rear headrests…
  • 1.2L NA petrol’s highway performance is mediocre; 5-speed MT is notchy too
  • Cabin width makes the interiors suitable for 4 adults, not 5
  • Missing features like climate control, tachometer, decent sound system, LED headlamps, etc.
  • Long-term reliability & after-sales service quality are big unknowns; dealer network is tiny

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Tata Punch

What you'll like:

  • Snazzy styling! We love the mini-Harrier face and tight rear end
  • Well-designed & practical cabin with enough space for 4 adults
  • 366-liter boot is accommodating
  • 1.2L NA petrol offers good driveability in the city. Performance is acceptable • Sorted road manners & reassuring high-speed stability
  • Enjoyable Harman 6-speaker ICE. One of the better systems in this segment
  • Features such as auto headlamps & wipers, cruise control, Traction Pro (AMT), cooled glovebox…with factory customization packs too
  • A full 5 stars in the GNCAP! Safety package includes dual airbags, CSC, brake sway control, ISOFIX etc.

What you won't:

  • 1.2L NA petrol’s highway performance is weak. At 100 km/h & up, more noise than action
  • Suspension has a firm tune (R16 variants). It is compliant & liveable, but you do feel bad roads
  • Jerky and slow AMT gearbox when competitors offer you smoother CVTs and torque converters
  • 3-cylinder petrol cannot match the competition’s 4-cylinders in refinement & NVH
  • No turbo petrol or diesel option. Period. Rivals & other Tata cars offer both
  • Cabin width makes 4 adults welcome, not 5
  • Some missing goodies such as an auto-dimming IRVM, splitting rear seat, rear AC vents, full-size spare…
  • Tata's after-sales service quality is a hit or miss. Remains a gamble

Review Link

Renault Kiger

First Drive Review

Ownership Review

Nissan Magnite

What you'll like:

  • The Magnite looks really good…that handsome face is a head-turner
  • Sheer value-for-money pricing. Turbo-petrol with a proper AT under 10 lakhs!
  • Peppy performance from the Magnite’s 1.0L turbo-petrol engine
  • Smooth well-tuned CVT in a sea of jerky AMTs. Has Sport and L modes too
  • Healthy legroom for rear passengers. Space packaging is brilliant
  • Impressive kit (cruise control, LED headlamps, rear air-con vents, 360-degree camera, wireless charger, wireless Android Auto & Apple CarPlay)
  • 205 mm of ground clearance is more than enough for any kind of bad roads
  • Safety kit includes ESP, TPMS, ABS, EBD & hill start assist
  • Base variant also gets a reasonable kit, including a rear wiper. It’s not poverty-spec

What you won't:

  • Stiff & basic ride quality. You feel each and everything on the road
  • The Magnite is built to a cost and it does show, especially in the budget-grade cabin
  • Lower variants’ 1.0L naturally-aspirated petrol is a boring, unimpressive engine
  • Clunky, firm MT gearshift & a clutch pedal that has more weight than it should
  • No diesel option available on the Nissan Magnite
  • Cabin is narrower than some competitors. Narrow width makes it best for 4 adults
  • Missing features such as an auto-dimming IRVM, full-size spare tyre…
  • Doesn't have the finesse or quality of premium crossovers like the XUV300, Sonet etc.
  • Nissan's tiny dealership network & lousy after-sales quality

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Hyundai Exter

What you'll like:

  • Well-positioned overall package. Priced competitively against rivals
  • Unique looks with the H-shaped LED DRLs & tail-lamps and crossover styling
  • Super-refined 4-cylinder engine offers good driveability and satisfactory fuel efficiency. AMT and CNG versions are available too
  • Hyundai AMTs have superior tuning as compared to the AMTs of Maruti, Tata etc.
  • Well-tuned suspension absorbs bumps well and delivers acceptable high-speed stability
  • Precise build & quality (including interiors) are among the segment's best
  • Excellent ergonomics with light and well-placed controls
  • Spacious interiors with very good legroom and headroom for a car in this segment
  • Accommodating 391-litre boot is among the largest in the segment
  • Loaded with features such as a sunroof, keyless entry & go, dashcam with dual camera, auto headlamps, cruise control, paddle shifters, connected car features (BlueLink), wireless charger, rear A/C vents, multi-lingual voice commands, etc
  • Safety kit includes 6 airbags, 3-point seatbelts for all 5 occupants, ISOFIX child seat mounts, ABS, EBD, ESC, VSM, hill-hold assist, rear parking sensors and camera, TPMS, emergency stop signal, SOS call and more
  • Hyundai's wide service network & up to 7-years extended warranty

What you won't:

  • Edgy looks & funky styling may not be to everyone's liking. Cuts and creases are overdone
  • Despite the unique styling, it’s not really a head-turner. Small size robs the Exter of road presence
  • 1.2L NA petrol’s highway performance is adequate, but not exciting
  • No turbo-petrol or diesel engine on offer
  • Not as engaging to drive as the Citroen C3 Turbo. Handling, steering and thin tyres won’t appeal to enthusiasts
  • Light-coloured interior theme isn’t available. Black interiors may not be to everyone's liking. Hyundai should’ve offered a beige option
  • Back seat is more suitable for 2 healthy adults and a child. Not 3 healthy adults
  • Rear seat is placed on the lower side, and its under-thigh support is average (taller folk will find it to be less)
  • Average sound system is no match for some of the rivals (e.g. Punch & Fronx have better ICE)
  • Some missing features like fog lamps, rear centre armrest, auto-dimming IRVM, 60:40 split rear seat, 6-speaker sound system (Exter has just 4), full-sized spare tyre, etc.

Review Link

Here's what BHPian CentreOfGravity had to say about the matter:

This is a tough one! Having considered all options, my first choice would be the Fronx turbo MT, or the Citroen C3 turbo (but strictly as a secondary vehicle).

  • I prefer the Fronx's design over its Toyota counterpart and I think it is one the best-looking hatches (I refrain from calling any car in the list an "SUV"). The engine seems to be fun too. Downside = it's quite expensive for what is essentially a Baleno on steroids.
  • The C3 is my second pick only because of its engine and chassis - 110 PS and 190 Nm of torque are big numbers for this class! However, I'd choose this strictly as my secondary car for the city. Reasons = lack of basic features + 0 star NCAP rating.
  • Although the Punch looks very good, the weak powertrain is a deal breaker. Not to mention Tata's poor ASS and the free niggles that come with the car.
  • The Kiger and Magnate are quite competent and VFM, but they are ageing badly and aren't as polished as the others. Plus, the competition has m-o-v-e-d on.
  • The Exter looks weird to me even today. As competent a car as it is, I cannot live with a car whose design doesn't appeal to me.

All said and done, in real life, I'd be better off with a proper hatch like the i20 N Line / Altroz turbo or sedans like the City / Virtus GT.

Here's what BHPian FAIAAA had to say about the matter:

Voted for the Taisor.

Rationale - I am only into automatics now. Of the list:

  • Punch and Exeter go out because of AMT gearboxes
  • Kiger and Magnite go out because of inconsistent product quality and questions about their future in India
  • C3 seems to have a good powertrain (engine and gearbox) but is let down by a limited feature set and service network and questions around their viability and future in India.

That leaves the Fronx and Taisor. Personally, I like the Fronx's looks but will go with the Taisor because of the Toyota brand and service quality. That is if I am shopping in this segment.

However, I feel that if one is shopping with around ~15 lacs today for the top-end Fronx/Taisor, one will be better off with an entry-level, reasonably loaded City V CVT or a Kushaq Onyx edition AT and so on.

Here's what BHPian TorqueAddict007 had to say about the matter:

Taisor, and by extension Fronx, offers too little for too much price. The 1.2L engine is good, but I'd rather just buy the Baleno if I wanted that engine and its refinement and frugality. And the 1.0l turbo petrol AT is pretty good, but it's so expensive for what it offers, I could just stretch a bit and go with the Brezza, which has better handling, more space, and is also built on a safer platform. Fronx is legitimately a car that puzzled me when I test drove it because I couldn't understand what role it served in the market that wasn't already occupied by another car which did the job better.

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Mahindra XUV 3X0 vs rivals: Enthusiasts share their choice of car

This really needs a multiple choice poll! Compact SUV buyers are now spoilt for choice.

Mahindra XUV 3XO

What you'll like:

  • A truly premium crossover. Nice build, quality & refinement levels
  • Cabin has enough space for 5. Quality-wise, the interior is more like a Hyundai
  • Fantastic petrol & diesel engine line-up; they offer fast performance & good driveability
  • Finally gets a smooth torque converter automatic with the turbo-petrol engines
  • Wide variant spread ensures there's something for everyone
  • A compliant ride with sorted road manners
  • 5-star NCAP rating & kit. Level 2 ADAS, 6 airbags, ESP, ABS, all-wheel disc brakes, TPMS, seatbelt reminders for all & more
  • Loaded to the gills with equipment (360-degree camera, big sunroof, drive modes, Harman Kardon audio system, wireless smartphone connectivity, auto headlamps & wipers etc.)

What you won't:

  • The new edgy & outlandish design may not be to everyone's liking. Some love it, some don't. It is very polarizing
  • Top-end variants are expensive. Not overpriced, but definitely higher than expected
  • 295-liter boot is the smallest in the segment. There are cheaper hatchbacks that have a larger boot
  • No proper diesel automatic option, just a jerky AMT which has no place in a premium crossover
  • Light & disconnected steering is the biggest drawback in a competent handling package
  • Mahindra's after-sales service quality is a hit or miss. Remains a gamble
  • Some important features missing (ventilated seats, parcel tray, full-sized spare wheel, paddle shifters etc.)

First Drive Review

AMT Review

Tata Nexon

Review Link


What you'll like:

  • A mini-Creta in almost every way! Same formula, in a smaller package
  • Precise build & quality (including interiors) are easily among the segment best
  • Competent engines mated to slick gearboxes
  • Fast shifting dual-clutch Automatic gearbox available
  • Balanced road manners. Very easy to drive as well
  • Loaded to the gills with equipment (paddle shifters, drive modes, sunroof, BlueLink telematics, cabin air purifier etc.)
  • Top safety equipment includes 6 airbags, BAS, ESP, HSA, ISOFIX and more
  • Hyundai's competent after-sales & fuss-free ownership experiences

What you won't:

  • Diminutive street presence. Looks more hatchback than SUV from some angles, especially the rear
  • Strictly a 4-seater; the rear bench has very awkward seating for the middle occupant
  • Missing kit (auto wipers, auto-dimming IRVM, steering reach adjustment...)
  • Long term reliability of the DCT is a concern
  • Engine noise is very prominent, more so in Sport mode
  • AT only on the petrol, not the diesel. Kia Sonet gets a Diesel AT

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Maruti Suzuki Brezza

What you'll like:

  • Good-looking Compact SUV with improved road presence & mass appeal
  • Well-rounded product. Takes a successful formula and improves upon it
  • A competent BS6 petrol with Smart Hybrid tech and excellent fuel efficiency
  • Smooth 6-speed torque-converter AT comes with paddle shifters
  • Well-mannered suspension setup riding on 16-inch wheels and 215/60 section tyres
  • Decent cabin space for a sub-4 meter car. Lots of storage & a powerful air-con too
  • Now gets a sunroof, 360-degree camera, head-up display, rear A/C vents, wireless charging, ambient lighting, tilt & telescopic steering adjustment, connected car features etc
  • Long feature list includes dual projector LED auto headlamps, LED DRLs & foglamps, auto-dimming IRVM, cruise control and a 9-inch touchscreen HU paired with an Arkamys sound system
  • Safety kit includes 6 airbags, ESP, hill-hold assist and ISOFIX. Built on the same platform as the outgoing car, which had received a 4-star GNCAP safety rating
  • Maruti’s excellent after-sales service, wide dealer network & fuss-free ownership experiences

What you won't:

  • Feels more like a significant facelift rather than an all-new product
  • No diesel option like its rivals! Petrol and CNG only as of now
  • 1.5L petrol engine lacks outright grunt. Tuned for fuel efficiency and suitable for relaxed cruising only
  • Expensive! AT variants are priced higher than some of the competitor turbo-petrols with more advanced transmissions
  • AT option commands a stiff Rs. 1.5 lakh ex-showroom premium!
  • Interior quality and fit & finish are underwhelming for the price. The game has moved on
  • Short gearing of the 5-speed MT and lack of 6th cog results in an unusually busy engine at 100-120 km/h
  • 328-litre boot is among the smallest in the segment
  • Some missing features like ventilated seats, leather upholstery, TPMS, drive modes, auto wipers and front parking sensors

Review Link

Kia Sonet

Facelift Review

Maruti Suzuki Fronx


What you'll like:

  • Smart looking crossover with sharp & attractive styling
  • Feels better built than some other Maruti cars
  • 1.0L Boosterjet turbo-petrol engine is quick and has minimal turbo lag. Driveability is satisfactory
  • Smart Hybrid system ensures excellent fuel efficiency. ARAI = 20.01 to 22.89 km/l
  • Nicely tuned suspension glides over small bumps, potholes and road imperfections
  • User-friendly cabin with loads of space! Can easily seat 5 adults (unlike many competitors)
  • Long feature list includes LED auto headlamps, LED DRLs, cruise control, 9-inch touchscreen HU paired with an Arkamys sound system, 360-degree camera, head-up display, rear A/C vents, wireless charging, footwell lighting, tilt & telescopic steering adjustment, connected car features etc
  • Safety kit includes 6 airbags, 3-point seatbelts for all, ESP, traction control, hill-hold assist and ISOFIX
  • Maruti’s excellent after-sales service, wide dealer network & fuss-free ownership experiences

What you won't:

  • On the inside, it’s almost identical to the regular Baleno. Differentiation should’ve been more
  • Quality of some plastic parts and fabric upholstery is mediocre
  • 1.0L turbo-petrol although quick, is not exciting enough for enthusiasts
  • 308-litre boot is among the smallest in the segment
  • No diesel option like some rivals
  • Rear seat’s under-thigh support is lacking for taller passengers
  • A few missing features like sunroof, TPMS, rear armrest, drive modes, auto wipers and front parking sensors
  • Lesser height means, despite the smart styling, it doesn’t have the road presence of typical crossovers

Review Link

Toyota Urban Cruiser Taisor

Launch Discussion

Nissan Magnite

What you'll like:

  • The Magnite looks really good…that handsome face is a head-turner
  • Sheer value-for-money pricing. Turbo-petrol with a proper automatic at ~10 lakhs!
  • Peppy performance from the Magnite’s 1.0L turbo-petrol engine
  • Smooth well-tuned CVT in a sea of jerky AMTs. Has Sport and L modes too
  • Healthy legroom for rear passengers. Space packaging is brilliant
  • Impressive kit (cruise control, LED headlamps, rear air-con vents, 360-degree camera, wireless charger, wireless Android Auto & Apple CarPlay)
  • 205 mm of ground clearance is more than enough for any kind of bad roads
  • Safety kit includes ESP, TPMS, ABS, EBD & hill start assist
  • Base variant also gets reasonable kit, including a rear wiper. It’s not poverty-spec

What you won't:

  • Stiff & basic ride quality. You feel each and everything on the road
  • The Magnite is built to a cost and it does show, especially in the budget-grade cabin
  • Lower variants’ 1.0L naturally-aspirated petrol is a boring, unimpressive engine
  • Clunky, firm MT gearshift & a clutch pedal that has more weight than it should
  • No diesel option available on the Nissan Magnite
  • Cabin is narrower than some competitors. Narrow width makes it best for 4 adults
  • Missing features such as an auto-dimming IRVM, full-size spare tyre…
  • Doesn't have the finesse or quality of premium crossovers like the XUV300, Sonet etc.
  • Nissan's tiny dealership network & lousy after-sales quality

Review Link

Magnite AMT Review Link

Renault Kiger

First Drive Review

Ownership Review

Mahindra Bolero Neo

What you'll like:

  • A 7-seater SUV at a price comparable to 5-seat crossovers & compact sedans
  • Robust, abuse-friendly build & body-on-frame construction. A typical Mahindra UV in that sense
  • Likeable & roomy cabin. 1st & 2nd seat rows are spacious
  • 1.5L diesel offers excellent urban driveability & fuel economy
  • Tall seating, comfy front seats with armrests, excellent visibility & good presence make city driving easier
  • Healthy boot space with the last row of seats folded. Can drop 2nd row to haul more cargo
  • New additions such as the mechanical locking differential & cruise control
  • Dual airbags, ABS + EBD, Corner Braking Control etc. are offered on every variant

What you won't:

  • 3-cylinder diesel has no top-end. Expressway performance is mediocre, vibrating gear lever a turnoff
  • Ride quality is nowhere as cushy as its car-based rivals. Does get bouncy & bumpy
  • Steering is on the heavier side at parking / low speeds
  • No automatic in a market that loves its ATs. No 4x4 or petrol engine either
  • Deletions from the TUV300 = reversing camera, leatherette seats, lumbar support adjustment, underseat storage, roof rails, smaller fuel tank...
  • Side-facing 3rd row seats are very uncomfortable
  • Some important features missing (climate control, Android Auto / Apple CarPlay, rear a/c vents, good speakers, auto-dimming IRVM etc.)
  • Mahindra's after-sales service quality is a hit or miss. Remains a gamble

First Drive Review

Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:

This really needs a multiple choice poll! Compact SUV buyers are now spoilt for choice.  Thumbs up to the XUV 3XO, Nexon Facelift & evergreen Sonet. All 3 are darn competent and come with some great engines & transmissions (except the AMTs). I love the Fronx 1.0L MT too (but hate the AMT variants with the other engine).

The Brezza (too boring), Venue (I much prefer the Sonet) and Magnite (feels very cheap).

If I were a customer in the market, I'd have a hard time deciding between the XUV 3XO, Nexon Facelift & Sonet.

Here's what BHPian vattyboy had to say on the matter:

I like the Kia Sonet in this segment and then the XUV 3X0.

The Kia Sonet with its 1.5 L Diesel AT is a joy to drive, smooth and dependable. The XUV 3x0 also offers plenty of features and a powerful diesel engine.

The Nexon also catches my eye, but I have some reservations about fully trusting Tata due to a few minor niggles.

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Scoop! Nissan Magnite facelift to get a sunroof, 6 airbags and more

The Magnite facelift will get a redesigned dashboard and offer new features.

The Nissan Magnite is all set to receive a major update. Last month, the facelift version was spotted testing in Chennai for the first time. We can now reveal more information about the upcoming compact SUV.

The Nissan Magnite facelift will feature a refreshed exterior design aligned with other SUVs from Nissan’s global lineup. The changes, though, will be limited to soft parts only. 

The Magnite will also receive a few updates on the interior. We’ve been told it will get a redesigned dashboard and offer additional features such as a single-pane sunroof and 6 airbags.

The Magnite facelift is likely to be offered with the same set of engines as the current model. It includes a 1.0-litre, 3-cylinder petrol and a 1.0-litre turbo-petrol unit. The naturally aspirated engine is available with either a 5-speed manual or a 5-speed AMT, while the turbocharged engine gets a 5-speed manual and CVT option.

Thanks to the Team-BHP fan (he prefers to remain anonymous) who sent this information in. Heartfelt gratitude for sharing it with other enthusiasts via this Team-BHP share page!

 

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Nissan Magnite facelift caught testing for the first time

The Magnite facelift is expected to be launched globally sometime around mid-2024.

A prototype of what is believed to be the updated Nissan Magnite has been spotted testing for the first time. The heavily camouflaged crossover was seen in Chennai.

While the overall shape of the Magnite looks unchanged, we can expect to see several cosmetic updates focused around the front and rear end. The latest spy images reveal a steeply raked rear windshield with a spoiler on top and redesigned tail lamp clusters. The car also appears to have roof rails and a shark fin antenna.

As part of the facelift, Nissan might also make minor changes to the interior of the Magnite. Currently, the car is equipped with features such as an 8-inch touchscreen infotainment system with wireless Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, automatic climate control with rear AC vents; among others.

The Magnite facelift is likely to be offered with the same set of engines, which includes a 1.0-litre, 3-cylinder petrol and a 1.0-litre turbo-petrol unit. The naturally aspirated engine is available with either a 5-speed manual or a 5-speed AMT, while the turbocharged engine gets a 5-speed manual and CVT option.

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My Nissan Magnite leaves me stranded twice: No fix in sight

The friend travel outstation as well as drives long distances for work, and he is now terrified that the car will give up on him without notice.

BHPian SS-Traveller recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Our neighbour, also a close friend, is bothered by the unreliability of his non-turbo Magnite. Registered in February 2023, the car lit up its dashboard lights like a Christmas tree, the first time in August 2023, and again in early January. The first time around, the Nissan service centre (Youwe Nissan at Okhla, New Delhi) returned the car after resetting the error, and no other action. In January, they cleaned the injectors, reset the error and returned the car, without pinpointing why the problem happened.

The friend travel outstation as well as drives long distances for work, and he is now terrified that the car will give up on him without notice. Both times that this error happened, the car went into limp mode first, and later refused to start, leaving him stranded - and he had to call in a flatbed truck to transport the car to the service centre.

The following is the body of his email to customercare.nissan@email.nissan.in dated 9th January 2024:

The Customer Service Team,

Greetings,

I am writing this mail with great dissatisfaction and shock due to extreme issues I have been facing with the car.

I bought a Nissan Magnite with great expectation and excitement considering the big brand name.

I bought the car last year in February 2023 and hoped for a hassle-free and stress-free driving experience,

But to my shock I started facing problems within the span of 6 to 7 months of buying the car.

On 30th August 2023 all of a sudden the car stopped working by showing all caution and warning lights, due to which my family faced great issues, especially my father as I bought the car for him. The car had to be sent for maintenance and thinking it to be a one-time issue I let it pass by and got my hopes high again when the car was returned back after the maintenance. But it seems like either there is some problem or manufacturing issue with the car or the maintenance done on the car was not conducted properly because to my disbelief the same issue of all the caution and warning light appearing happened again last week (05th January 2024). My father, who is a senior citizen, was coming back from his work and the car started giving problems midway home. It has made our life very difficult as we are unable to use the car and my father is unable to attend his work. It has also put a fear of constantly worrying about the car which can stop working anywhere. Such kind of issues are not expected from a newly bought car from such a big brand name. Facing the same issues again and again in a short span of time has put a lot of stress on me and my family. I’m writing this complaint on a serious note as when a customer purchases a car he/she expects it to drive hassle free and hope for the company to give good service for many years.

It is totally unacceptable that a car from such a big brand name keeps giving issues rendering the car unusable. Taking the car to maintenance after everytime we face this issue is not a solution nor I am looking forward to facing these issues again as it keeps the safety of my family in doubt. I request you to kindly look into the matter and give a solution as I am done with it.

Looking forward to timely and correct actions.

Thank you

What is happening here? Anyone has any idea how this problem can be permanently resolved? Whom should he write to at Nissan, to take care of this?

Pictures from August 2023:

Pictures from January 2024:

I can see madmax_rak suffered a similar issue below...

This was the one that had caused me a lot of problems to me...

... "Check Anti-Pollution System" error started showing in the meter console.

...They did not find any issues. The service advisor was saying it could be due to some loose connection, and this error usually indicates some water content in the exhaust . But they could not find any issue in the exhaust either. However, since the error was cleared...

...the same error started displaying again. I had called the service advisor again and he was clueless. He was saying that since it is not related to the engine, this won't be a problem for driving the car. But I was not convinced to go ahead as I will be travellingwith my family and never want to get stranded in an unknown place.
...the error was displayed on the screen.

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Nissan Magnite surpasses the 1 lakh unit sales milestone

Nissan has also announced the launch of a new web-based platform called Nissan One.

Nissan has achieved a new milestone in India as Magnite sales cross the 1 lakh unit mark.

To celebrate the milestone, Nissan has launched a new web-based platform called Nissan One. Customers can use the platform to request a test drive and book a vehicle. It also offers a referral program for customers.

The Nissan Magnite was launched in 2020. The compact SUV was introduced at an introductory price of Rs 4.99 lakh (ex-showroom). It is available with two engine options – a 1.0-litre naturally aspirated petrol engine that makes 71 BHP and 96 Nm and a 1.0-litre turbo-petrol unit that puts out 99 BHP and 152 Nm.

Last year, Nissan launched the Magnite AMT in the Indian market. It is available with the 1.0L naturally aspirated petrol engine paired with a 5-speed automated manual transmission.

 

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Nissan Magnite: ASC asks me to change brake pads after just 7,000 km

I wanted to check if they can replace the pads free of charge since its a reflection of the poor quality

BHPian optimystic01 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I purchased a Nissan Magnite CVT (Auto) towards the end of May 2023. As of today(19 Jan '24) it has clocked 6700 kms on the odo.

I went to the nearest official Nissan service centre for wheel alignment and balancing on the advice of a friend who suggested that its good have this done every 5000 kms since the roads in Bangalore roads are in bad condition. Turns out it was not necessary.

During the visual inspection, I was informed by the service agent today that the brake pads are worn out and need replacement. He also mentioned that if the pads are not replaced immediately, the discs will also wear out and will need replacement.

I was shocked that the brake pads of Magnite need to be replaced so early. When I expressed my dissatisfaction to the advisor, he mentioned two things:

  • The brake pads of the CVT do wear out faster than the manual.
  • Perhaps I was braking a lot.

For 1, I would request other Magnite CVT owners if they have had to replace their brake pads within 7K which still seems very early

For 2, my counter will be this: I have owned a Maruti Alto, Maruti Baleno and Ford Fiesta earlier. I have never had to replace the pads so early. The minimum I have clocked for a replacement has been 20,000 kms.

I escalated this matter to the Nissan customer care. I wanted to check if they can replace the pads free of charge since its a reflection of the poor quality - at least in my view. I was told that the brake pads are not covered under extended warranty and I will need to pay from my pocket. I'm OK to pay as long as it is justified. Hypothetically, If I use this car for approximately 1,00,000 kms, I will be spending close to 60,000 INR just for replacing brake pads. Then the additional threat of replacing the discs. Not to mention the time and effort I will be spending.

Would my fellow BhPians have any suggestions / advice for me? I'm thinking of approaching the consumer court.

Here's what BHPian vamso.vadrevu had to say on the matter:

I think it would just be easier to replace the pads with aftermarket ones from Bosch or TVS Apache. I've read somewhere that they are better quality. They also reduce the noise from the brakes during cold starts. I too have a CVT and yes the brakes on automatic cars do wear out faster because the brakes are always in use at low speed traffic. We're essentially slowing the car down through brakes and not through reducing input power like we do in manual cars. Plus little to no engine braking as compared to manual cars.

It's a known fact that the OEM pads are not of good quality. So we'd just be better off with after market brake pads.

Here's what BHPian madmax_rak had to say on the matter:

I have a Magnite CVT which is close to 86000 km now. I had to replace brake pads twice so far. Once when it was at 40000 km and other one was at 80000 km.

BHPian optimystic01 had the following update to share:

Update: (23-Jan-'24). I went to the Nissan service centre to get the brake pads changed. However, my regular service advisor was on leave. Hence, another advisor assessed the brake pads and told me that the pads can go on for another 20,000 kms at the least. He even measured and showed me the depth of the pads which was around 13+mm. Therefore, there is no need to change the pads now.

My regular advisor just did a visual inspection the other day and told me that the pads have worn out. I'm not technically well versed so I believed his words. The Manager proactively told me that they are seeking explanation as to why the advisor suggested me to replace the pads when it was not needed.

Anyway, I'm glad that I don't need to replace the pads every 6000 km.

 

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Nissan Magnite AMT vs Hyundai Exter AMT vs Tata Punch AMT vs others

The remaining AMT models here include Renault Kiger, Mahindra XUV300, Maruti Fronx and Tata Nexon.

BHPian Ripcord09 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Nissan Magnite

What you'll like:

  • The Magnite looks really good… that handsome face is a head-turner
  • Sheer value-for-money pricing
  • Healthy legroom for rear passengers. Space packaging is brilliant
  • Impressive kit (cruise control, LED headlamps, rear air-con vents, 360-degree camera, wireless charger, wireless Android Auto & Apple CarPlay)
  • 205 mm of ground clearance is more than enough for any kind of bad roads
  • Safety kit includes ESP, TPMS, ABS, EBD & hill start assist
  • Base variant also gets reasonable kit, including a rear wiper. It’s not poverty-spec

What you won't:

  • Stiff & basic ride quality. You feel each and everything on the road
  • The Magnite is built to a cost and it does show, especially in the budget-grade cabin
  • 1.0L naturally-aspirated petrol is a boring, unimpressive engine. AMT isn't very smooth either
  • No diesel option available on the Nissan Magnite
  • Cabin is narrower than some competitors. Narrow width makes it best for 4 adults
  • Missing features such as an auto-dimming IRVM, full-size spare tyre…
  • Doesn't have the finesse or quality of premium crossovers like the XUV300, Sonet etc.
  • Nissan's tiny dealership network & lousy after-sales quality

AMT Review Link

First Review Link

Hyundai Exter

What you'll like:

  • Well-positioned overall package. Priced competitively against rivals
  • Unique looks with the H-shaped LED DRLs & tail-lamps and crossover styling
  • Super-refined 4-cylinder engine offers good driveability and satisfactory fuel efficiency. AMT and CNG versions are available too
  • Hyundai AMTs have superior tuning as compared to the AMTs of Maruti, Tata etc.
  • Well-tuned suspension absorbs bumps well and delivers acceptable high-speed stability
  • Precise build & quality (including interiors) are among the segment best
  • Excellent ergonomics with light and well-placed controls
  • Spacious interiors with very good legroom and headroom for a car in this segment
  • Accommodating 391-litre boot is among the largest in the segment
  • Loaded with features such as a sunroof, keyless entry & go, dashcam with dual camera, auto headlamps, cruise control, paddle shifters, connected car features (BlueLink), wireless charger, rear A/C vents, multi-lingual voice commands, etc
  • Safety kit includes 6 airbags, 3-point seatbelts for all 5 occupants, ISOFIX child seat mounts, ABS, EBD, ESC, VSM, hill-hold assist, rear parking sensors and camera, TPMS, emergency stop signal, SOS call and more
  • Hyundai's wide service network & up to 7-years extended warranty

What you won't:

  • Edgy looks & funky styling may not be to everyone's liking. Cuts and creases are overdone
  • Despite the unique styling, it’s not really a head-turner. Small size robs the Exter of road presence
  • 1.2L NA petrol’s highway performance is adequate, but not exciting
  • No turbo-petrol or diesel engine on offer
  • Not as engaging to drive as the Citroen C3 Turbo. Handling, steering and thin tyres won’t appeal to enthusiasts
  • Light-coloured interior theme isn’t available. Black interiors may not be to everyone's liking. Hyundai should’ve offered a beige option
  • Back seat is more suitable for 2 healthy adults and a child. Not 3 healthy adults
  • Rear seat is placed on the lower side, and its under-thigh support is average (taller folk will find it to be less)
  • Average sound system is no match for some of the rivals (e.g. Punch & Fronx have better ICE)
  • Some missing features like fog lamps, rear centre armrest, auto-dimming IRVM, 60:40 split rear seat, 6-speaker sound system (Exter has just 4), full-sized spare tyre, etc.

Review Link

Renault Kiger

Launch Discussion Link

Tata Punch

What you'll like:

  • Snazzy styling! We love the mini-Harrier face and tight rear end
  • Well-designed & practical cabin with enough space for 4 adults
  • 366-liter boot is accommodating
  • 1.2L NA petrol offers good driveability in the city. Performance is acceptable <90 kmph
  • Sorted road manners & reassuring high speed stability
  • Enjoyable Harman 6-speaker ICE. One of the better systems in this segment
  • Features such as auto headlamps & wipers, cruise control, Traction Pro (AMT), cooled glovebox…with factory customization packs too
  • A full 5 stars in the GNCAP! Safety package includes dual airbags, CSC, brake sway control, ISOFIX etc.

What you won't:

  • 1.2L NA petrol’s highway performance is weak. At 100 kmph & up, more noise than action
  • Suspension has a firm tune (R16 variants). It is compliant & liveable, but you do feel bad roads
  • Jerky and slow AMT gearbox when competitors offer you smoother CVTs and torque converters
  • 3-cylinder petrol cannot match the competition’s 4-cylinders in refinement & NVH
  • No turbo petrol or diesel option. Period. Rivals & other Tata cars offer both
  • Cabin width makes 4 adults welcome, not 5
  • Some missing goodies such as an auto-dimming IRVM, splitting rear seat, rear AC vents, full-size spare…
  • Tata's after-sales service quality is a hit or miss. Remains a gamble

Review Link

Mahindra XUV300

AMT Ownership Review Link

First Review Link

Maruti Suzuki Fronx

What you'll like:

  • Smart looking crossover with sharp & attractive styling
  • Feels better built than some other Maruti cars
  • The 1.2L NA offers excellent fuel efficiency. ARAI = 21.79 (MT) km/l to 22.89 km/l (AMT)
  • Nicely tuned suspension glides over small bumps, potholes and road imperfections
  • User-friendly cabin with loads of space! Can easily seat 5 adults (unlike many competitors)
  • Long feature list includes LED auto headlamps, LED DRLs, cruise control, 9-inch touchscreen HU paired with an Arkamys sound system, 360-degree camera, head-up display, rear A/C vents, wireless charging, footwell lighting, tilt & telescopic steering adjustment, connected car features etc
  • Safety kit includes 6 airbags, 3-point seatbelts for all, ESP, traction control, hill-hold assist and ISOFIX
  • Maruti’s excellent after-sales service, wide dealer network & fuss-free ownership experiences

What you won't:

  • On the inside, it’s almost identical to the regular Baleno. Differentiation should’ve been more
  • Quality of some plastic parts and fabric upholstery is mediocre
  • 308-litre boot is among the smallest in the segment
  • No diesel option like some rivals
  • Rear seat’s under-thigh support is lacking for taller passengers
  • A few missing features like sunroof, TPMS, rear armrest, drive modes, auto wipers and front parking sensors
  • Lesser height means, despite the smart styling, it doesn’t have the road presence of typical crossovers

Review Link

Tata Nexon

AMT Ownership Review Link

Facelift Review Link

First Review Link

Here's what BHPian aniketi had to say about the matter:

Just 6 months back I was in the same dilemma and bought Maruti Ignis Zeta AMT after considering many cars.

I10 Nios, I rejected as it was low on seating and I personally don't like its curvy looks. Overdesigned for me. Also, it's a costly car and has low mileage. Interior is good in this car.

Tata Tiago was next. I personally don't believe in Tata's long-term reliability of petrol cars. Also, their service is hit or miss. It's a 3-pot motor which I don't like. Interior was ok but the digital speedometer was too boring and dull. Car looks hot though. Easily one of the good-looking cars.

Nissan Magnite and Renault Kiger I didn't consider as the future for both companies is not promising at all. Both have service as well as resale value issues.

Punch is a good car but I found it to be costly for what it offers. Again reliability issues are there in the long term.

When it comes to Ignis, it is one of the most underrated cars in India. It does many things right at a very good cost. It has got a very good list of features for the price and the looks are sporty. Also, it offers amazing space inside being the smallest car. It's the most fuel-efficient car here and I am getting very good mileage on it. I am really happy with my purchase and enjoying the car.

People who want to buy a small car, do check Ignis first. You will be surprised to see what it offers at such a low price.

Here's what BHPian Small Bot had to say about the matter:

Voted for the Nexon. Yes, Hyundai has one of the nicest AMTs out there (oxymoron?). That said, my personal opinion is that Exter looks ugly from the rear, whereas Nexon looks snappy from all directions.

Here's what BHPian busydrive had to say about the matter:

Tata AMT(s) are jerky. Fronx AMT is overpriced for what it offers. I was seriously considering between Magnite and Exter and have finally gone for Exter. Planning to book this soon.

Main reason why I dropped Magnite was the cost-cutting was very evident everywhere and Nissan service in Bangalore is not good.

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Nissan Magnite facelift could arrive by mid-2024

The LHD Magnite will be exported to new markets in Africa, the Middle East, Latin America and Mexico.

Nissan is reportedly working on the Magnite facelift. The updated crossover is expected to be launched globally sometime around mid-2024.

While the exact details of the updated Magnite are not known, we can expect a few cosmetic changes both inside and out. The refreshed model will be built in right-hand drive and left-hand drive versions. The introduction of the LHD Magnite will allow the carmaker to tap into new markets in Africa, the Middle East, Latin America and Mexico.

Francois Bailly, Chief Planning Officer, Nissan Motor Corporation said. “The Magnite SUV has been very well received and it is being demanded in many markets around the world. The Magnite is a great success locally and in South Africa, and we have to grow the Magnite business in more export markets to ensure its competitiveness remains. Today, we just have the right-hand drive version, with the left-hand drive version many markets will open up, we will explore markets in Africa, the Middle East, LatAM, and Mexico, as we feel, we have a car that fits very well, for those markets.”

Nissan currently produces around 25,000 to 30,000 units of the Magnite every year. Production could be ramped up to 40,000 to 50,000 units per annum with the introduction of the LHD variant.

Source: Autocar India

 

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