He blamed the incident on my charging pattern and advised to take the charge to as low as 20% every week and always charge back to 100%.

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Breakdown within one week of buying:

I was enjoying my time with the Nexon EV, however just a couple of minutes ago, my car suddenly went into N mode and locked the gear. The MID shows “Limited Performance Mode activated”.

The car refused to shift to D mode.

I parked the car to the side of the road with the help of some shop people near the incident site. Called road side assistance and they have arranged a towing van.

The car was towed at around 7 pm yesterday ( 4.5 Hours after incident) and dropped at the service centre within an hour.

Got a call from Service Advisor around 10 am today that they will start work on my car asap and asked my charging schedule which I shared. I asked if he can deliver the vehicle today itself, but he didn’t seem very confident and asked me to wait till they complete their initial diagnosis.

My charging pattern within last 3 days of the incident:

• Friday 2 Nov 40% to 97% overnight.
• Saturday 3 Nov , 70% to 85% 2 hours in the evening.
• Sunday 4 Nov 48% to 72% At 7.2 kw charger at Ikea Navi Mumbai in the afternoon.
• Sunday 4 Nov 52% to 100% overnight.

Later today, around 4 pm , I received another call from him. To my surprise, he announced that the vehicle was now ready. He explained about updating the BMS ( Battery management system ) or something like that. He blamed the incident on my charging pattern and advised to take the charge to as low as 20% every week and always charge back to 100%. He mentioned cell balancing takes place between 95-100% and it’s important for the car.

Even if I believe what he says is good for the car and we should adopt it as standard practice is it fair for a one week old vehicle with 400 or so kms to face this kind of an issue? Do I need to forcibly take the battery down to the last 20% every time? If I have around 2 or 3 hours of free time near a slow charger , should I just not charge it so that it doesn’t fail on me in the middle of the road?

Why didn’t they bother to tell me about this during the sale? Is this even mentioned in the manual?

On a lighter note , I am happy I got my car back in 24 hours. I drove it back from Worli to my house in Andheri , around 23 kms. The SA assured me it will not happen again. Driving the car again was a sigh of relief. I feel good again and want to forget the incident as if it was a bad dream.

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Our dealer was very helpful and professional. They told me they need to call a specialist for checking battery related problems.

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I would like to keep everyone updated about certain developments with our Nexon EV.

After a year (about 15 months) and 30,000 kms later, about two weeks back, we noticed a problem.

If we drive the car to 40% battery or below and switch it off, when you start the next time, the battery shows 10% or 5% charge only. That means, there is a sudden drop in charge by 30 to 35%.

We observed it twice. It used to only happen if the car was switched off <40% charge, but then once we had the same experience when the car was off at 63%.

Took the car to our dealer - Key Motors. They were very helpful and professional. They told me they need to call a specialist for checking battery related problems. I had to leave the car for a couple of days. The expert came, apparently did some diagnostic tests. Key Motors service person called and said the battery pack need to be replaced.

They placed the order for the battery pack and it came within 4-5 days. The new pack was installed, they ran some tests for a couple of days and then returned the car. All free of charge, since the battery is within the warranty period. Its all fine now.

It was certainly disturbing that the battery pack failed within 15 months. You do not expect engine failures within 1 year of buying an ICE vehicle. But at the same time, it was reassuring that our dealer and Tata motors did not let us down. The help and support was very good, and the overall experience was smooth.

In summary, I remain optimistic about the future of EVs. I will still vouch for them. These issues are acceptable for a new technology. The important thing is for the manufacturer to support early adopters.

PS: I remember buying my first digital camera in the year 2000 (Nikon Coolpix 800 :-). It used to use AA batteries, and sometimes after taking 7 to 8 photos, all the cells had to be changed. But you see how digital cameras have evolved - the same will be the case for EVs.

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I counted 819 DC connectors/plugs per TATA Power website as of December, 2022.

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Should TATA Motors make supercharger stalls like TESLA?

• TATA Motors owns largest share of EV market in India, more than 84%.

• Tesla was also owned largest EV share in North America. Then they opened Tesla Super Charger Network. The result is for all of us to see. Tesla is now a dominant player in EVs leaps ahead of GM, FORD, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai etc

From the below graphic ( numbers may have increased*):

• Tesla has now* more than 4000 Super charger stations

• Tesla has now* more than 38,000 Super charger Connectors/DC fast charging plugs.

Should Tata with growing EV sales help their customers and growing EV eco system by developing EV sites/like fuel stations, and powering them with EV DC and "AC" fast chargers ?

Please comment, what is the maximum DC and AC fast charging your EV cars can "charge with".

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Counted 819 DC only connectors/plugs per TATA Power website as of Dec 2022.

Tata has sold around 21,500 EV's so far (not sure of this number)

But main question is - Tesla has been opening the DC chargers around the highways, suburbs, parking spaces, etc.

• Is Tata (or other EV Car seller) also following that approach ? They is a need to open more AC and DC chargers (dedicated spaces ) possibly away from busy areas. ( like a dedicated EV parking lots) 5 -10 KM before entering any city (all tiers)

• Or are they opening only in dealerships with motivation of increasing sales ?

• Also question is how many are actually functional ?

Here's what BHPian Lina had to say on the matter:

Before setting up "Super"Chargers, Tata needs to make EVs that can be used on the highway comfortably. Currently all of Tatas cars charge at abysmal rates. The EV-max which is the fastest charges at 30kW. This basically translates to about 100km of range added in 30 min of charging if you drive <100kmph. So, if you drive at 90kmph for an hour, you will have to stop for 30 min to get back that range. The regular Nexon (21kW) and Tigor (18kW) have much worse stats in this regard. If you compare this with the ZS EV, it can add about 175km in 30 min. Not great but a lot more liveable.

Now, coming to the chargers installed, Tata chargers are usually slow, unreliable and at inconvenient locations. Networks like Zeon and Relux make it a point to install faster, more reliable chargers at restaurants on the highway making the whole process more seamless. As far as I am concerned, apart from Tesla, no other company has bothered about the charging network and how it works with the car. Tesla also routes the drivers to specific charger.

Here's what BHPian Tucker48 had to say on the matter:

Indian govt has set some standards for battery and charging infrastructure which the industry is opposing as they say it will stifle innovation.

Why would a for profit company will install chargers on a large scale when it's going to be used by competition as well. I don't know cost economics of chargers but IMO, it won't be profitable in metros unless govt agencies give land.

And, Tesla is losing market share faster than anyone ever predicted. Plus the federal incentives 2022 aren't of much help either. Only one model falls under $55000 limit (correct me if I'm wrong)

So, IMO, these tasks should be taken over by the govt if they want it to be standardized.

Here's what BHPian guptad42 had to say on the matter:

Make AC slow charging in 7-20KW range common.

1. Tata/all electric car sellers in India should first make 7.2 KW level 2 AC home charger standard across the range. They can work with the charger manufacturers for cheaper designs. The rising volumes will also reduce costs. 3.3KW is just too slow and should not be used on 4 wheelers.

2. Tata Power and other charging networks can work with commercial parking spaces like malls, large offices, and also with residential buildings to install 11-20KW AC chargers in 5% of parking spots. The %age of parking lots with charging can be increased gradually over the years. Initial selection of spots for charging can be based on surveys of people who frequent the place, and EV sales trends in the catchment area. Avoid DC fast charging in covered areas, as long term safety could be a problem due to lack of maintenance.

For highway chargers, focus the investment to provide the best experience to most EV owners. Instead of a slow and poor experience everywhere. This is critical to sharply raise confidence in buying new EVs.

3. DC fast chargers on roads leading out from the top car buying cities to nearby cities and towns up to 500km range. EV charging stops at 30 minutes travel distance at highway speeds. So about 40km apart.

4. While western countries are going to 300-550KW DC fast charging or more, India should standardise on minimum 100 or 150 KW for DC fast charging. Peak charging rate in any car should not be less 2C. That'll allow adding 100-250km range in a brief chai/coffee stop, depending upon battery size. At that point, people will worry less about charging times and range anxiety.

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I noticed a blue Nexon EV XZ+ Prime parked in front of the showroom when I went to check out the Harrier. That's when I thought why not give it a try.

Story of my Nexon EV Dark Edition | Full Circle

Prologue:

Circa February 2020, while I was studying in London , my dad called me and asked which variant of Nexon (Petrol) should he book to replace our ageing 2013 Wagonr CNG.
Later that week, a booking was made at Puneet Motors, Malad.

However , in a surprising turn of events of the following month , we had to cancel our booking. I got back to India later that year.

Fast forward to 2022:

We have a 2018 Verna diesel which has done 40,000 kms till now. Our annual running is around 12000 kms (90% Mumbai Traffic), self/ chauffeur driven.

My dad happily gave me the responsibility to select our car to be as I would be the one using it most of the time.

My requirements/ needs:

• A good looking vehicle.
• Safe.
• Silent cabin.
• Fuel efficient and fuss free.
• AT was a must.
• Comfortable for 2-4 people.
• Comfortable rear seats with armrests and 60:40 split.

Jeep Compass:

Excited and armed with a budget of 15 - 25L, I rushed to Landmark Jeep showroom in April with a friend to TD the compass. I had my eyes on it ever since the facelift came out in 2021.

Loved the interiors , ride and handling. It felt solid to drive and the experience was miles ahead of my Verna. AT was the need of the hour due to obvious reasons , however , the Diesel AT was costing over 32 Lakhs hence the idea was painfully dropped.

Budget was stretched to 28L to accommodate the Limited Diesel Manual variant. A home TD was scheduled for my family , after which the booking was to be made.

I also made a casual visit to a MG showroom to check the ZS EV. However it being even smaller than the Compass (which is already very compact) , that too for similar money it was immediately dropped. Hector was never in contention hence was ignored.

We had to keep delaying our home TD due to various family commitments. In the midst of this I sensed that my dad wasn’t very keen to get home a jeep. He was worried about expensive maintenance and cost of spares. Add to this that I was already making a very big compromise by dropping the automatic gearbox. Horror stories of jeep’s breakdown within days of buying the vehicle didn’t help either.

After much contemplation , decision was made to drop the Jeep.

Our plan was put on hold for a couple of months as there were no other options which interested me. I was patiently waiting for the Hyrider/GV twins to make an entry.

Toyota Hyrider / Maruti Grand Vitara Hybrid:

As soon as I heard that the cars were up on display , I rushed to both Toyota / Nexa showrooms to grab a look.

• Both the vehicles looked fantastic and were loaded with tech.
• Premium interiors and soft touch dash.
• Silent at idle.
• Fuel efficient and comfortable rear seats

However the twins were dropped due to the following reasons:

• Questionable build ( Light doors).
• 3 pot engine and high speed NVH concerns.
• Poor road presence compared to the Koreans.

After rejecting the hybrid twins I was eyeing the Brezza and GV mild hybrids. I felt these were good options considering they were costing me towards the lower end of my planned budget. I decided to go with either one of these if I was not able to find ‘my perfect car’.

2022 Hyundai Tucson:

If I only had the budget…… (soon).

Tata Harrier:

Rejected due to poor interiors.

Nexon EV (Wild Card):

Though I wasn’t keen on the Harrier, I thought it was worth a shot. Went to a nearby TaMo showroom for TD but the SA informed that the car had gone for repairs to the workshop. He offered me a TD of the Safari but I politely refused ( I hate the rear design) . This particular SA seemed very motivated to make a sale. I noticed a blue Nexon EV XZ+ Prime parked in front of the showroom and thought why not. SA was very happy to offer the TD.

One pedal to the metal and I was sold. I had a blast driving it through the narrow Mumbai roads.

Excellent pickup , NVH and suspension setup. Lower running costs just made the deal sweeter.

After the drive I walked into the back seat , and that’s when I realised how bare bones this particular variant was. Fabric seats , no sunroof, no rear armrest / 60/40 split. Heck it did not even have adjustable rear headrests.

XZ+ Lux has all these features but lack of subsidy on it made the OTR price difference to around 2.5L +

Now here are where things get interesting!

• XZ+ = 16,30,000 Ex showroom
• XZ+ Dark = 16,49,000 Ex showroom

For a difference of 19000 rupees, the Dark Edition gets the following upgrades apart from the obvious black theme:

• Full leatherette upholstery + Steering wrap.
• Adjustable rear headrests and armrest.
• 60/40 Split rear seats.

The Dark Edition also enjoys the 1.5L subsidy, and hence was a no brainer.

WHY EV?

• Lower running costs, silent drive , zero tail pipe emissions and annual savings of 120,000 INR (estimated).
• 1,50,000 INR subsidy from the MH government.
• Flat 5000 INR RTO charges.
• Final on the road price lesser than the Ex showroom cost.
• This would be our second vehicle, primarily for city drives.

Range anxiety?

Not at all. Daily running of 40 kms, max 100 kms (rare), and a diesel Verna to take care of longer highway drives.

Why not Nexon EV MAX?

• OTR difference of around 3L rupees makes the Max costly at 19L + OTR.
• No Dark Edition

A search which started with a Nexon and ended with a Nexon, albeit in an EV avatar. FULL CIRCLE.

• PS - This car perfectly complements my username - Eco_Boost .
• PS2 - Delivery experience was okay and I received a Nov manufactured car with 39 kms on the odo.

Epilogue:

I saw and drove over 10 cars during my search but Tucson was the only car which could touch my heart. It has everything one could ask for at a fairly decent price and I wouldn’t change one thing about it. It’s a perfect blend of Jeep’s quality and Maruti’s trust and reliability. Until next time.

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Running costs are brilliant! While fast charging isn't economical, we rely on it very rarely: 8 or 9 times over the past 1 year.

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Electric vehicles were not such a common occurrence on Indian roads until 2021. Of course, this makes sense considering that the technology is relatively new for the Indian market. I do distinctly remember the 'Reva' - which was a common sight in Bangalore as far back as 2006.

Let me start off with this: I belong to a family of 3: My father, mother and I. No siblings and we've never found the need for a car larger than a compact SUV or a C segment sedan. My father, a biomedical engineer by profession, has always been enthusiastic about cars although he doesn't care for power, torque and 0-100 figures but does appreciate performance, luxury, comfort and a certain degree of finesse.

Some of the cars we've owned in the past include:

Lavender Hyundai Santro Xing XG:

Notably my father's first car and cherished by all of us. This car performed wonderfully for it's time, we loved the shade. It served us well for nearly 5 years. We did briefly also own a Hyundai Santro eRLX XO for maybe a little over a year. A job transfer was the reason for parting ways with this car. Once again, the Santro Xing was a gem of a car.

2006 Suzuki Swift VXi ABS:

Part of the first batch of Suzuki Swifts sold in India, yes this was the one with the 1.3L engine from the Esteem. Again, a brilliant car that served us well for over 5 years/60000kms before we decided to upgrade to a sedan.:

2008 Honda Civic V AT:

Screams luxury, was a fast sedan and very comfortable. This was a car that was so loved by us, we had it with us for over 10 years before finally parting ways. We had no issues with the car's performance but had issues with ground clearance, a flood in 2017 nearby our house did cause significant electrical damage to the car. We had to let it go in 2019. We had clocked well over 1L kms by then.

2011 VW Vento DLF IPL edition:

We were looking for a second sedan and didn't mind buying a manual. VW had just launched the Polo and then the Vento, while we were briefly considering the Swift Dzire, we all loved the Vento more. This car works beautifully even today. Some of the issues we faced: Spark plug failure, alternator stopped working within 30000kms. Today, the car has completed a little of 1L kms and has issues with the power windows and infotainment system.

2018 Suzuki Dzire ZXI AMT:

My parents shifted to Noida and I remained in Mumbai (during my undergrad days). My parents did not want to take the Vento to Noida and decided to keep it in Mumbai to be used for my grandparents. They decided to go for a smaller car, comfortable enough for a couple yet was practical and frugal. They were clear that a compact sedan is all that was needed: Afterntest driving all the cars they liked (Honda Amaze, VW Ameo and the Dzire), they settled for the Suzuki Dzire ZXI AMT in Oxford Blue. The car remained with them for 2 years/24000km before they returned back to Mumbai as my father's project in Noida was completed. Within the 2 years, the car had absolutely no issues and my father was very unwilling to let the car go.

2021 Nexon EV XZ+ Glacier White:

The return to Mumbai and Mumbai's abysmal roads meant that my parents were not keen on buying a hatchback/compact sedan. Even some of the larger sedans such as the Honda City were not considered. Our 2011 Vento was used for the first couple months but with increasing petrol prices and the Vento's deteriorating condition, there was an increasing need for a new car. We booked test drives of multiple cars: Nissan Magnite being the front runner. In fact my dad had booked this car when he was in Noida, a few days post the official launch at the end of 2020. Consistent delays in delivery date with no explanation caused us great frustration and we ended up cancelling the booking.

Nexon EV: 14 points that summarize our initial ownership experience over the past year:

• Clean, mean and serene: The Nexon EV looks good. It's quiet yet incredibly fast and obviously incredibly silent. We've never before been so reliant on the horn to warn pedestrians. Sport mode is unnecessarily quick and we have almost never used it due to congested Mumbai traffic.
• Running costs are brilliant! While fast charging isn't economical, we rely on it very rarely: 8 or 9 times over the past 1 year.
• Slow charging - Only reliable means of charging - have faced issues here too. The charger gets incredibly hot and the car will stop charging. This has happened maybe 4 times until now.
• Inaccurate BMS - There was a point in time when the car at full charge displayed only 80kms of range. The range figure eventually goes up to 230+ as the battery level drops to 70%. Sometimes however, the range would remain stuck at 80kms yet the car would still complete close to 200 kms in that one charge cycle. Eventually the range drops to <80kms as the battery level drops below 40%. This issue has been fixed after the prime software update.
• Fast charging reliability is poor and the system throws up multiple errors which make it very difficult to depend on.
• High speed stability is rock solid.
• Headlight throw can be described as 'adequate' at best. It could have been much better.
• Fit and finish is lacking - Accelerator pedal had loosened within first 1000kms and was moving from side to side. This has never happened on any car we've owned before and was very odd and off-putting. Fixed within the first service and has not happened again.
• Major front suspension noise: While going over bumps or while acceleration/regen/braking there was an audible clunking noise that worsened over this past monsoon season. We were well aware that Nexons had a link rod issue and pursued this with Tata for over 90 days with no response - Service Guys at Wasan Motors, Deonar did not bother to check and said all was 'normal'. Booking a slot for service has always been cumbersome. Finally, just 3 weeks back, we returned the car for service + Prime update. We asked for a different service representative who immediately identified the issue after a short drive and I'm glad to say the issue has been fixed. It was not due to the link rod but due to a screw/bolt which had lost all threading and causing the suspension to mechanically clash against the bushing. Had to be re-threaded and tested for 60kms. A word of advise to all prospective buyers of a Tata vehicle:
• With the latest Prime update: Range has gone UP! With our style of driving, we're consistently getting around 200-210 kms in the city, up from 180-190kms before. This is with AC on about 70% of the time, regen mode on Level 3. A figure of 260kms on highways seems possible. We are yet to go for a long distance trip, so will update regarding that in the near future. Cruise control is a welcome feature. The iTPMS is nothing but a sensor that lights up the dash symbol if it detects and issue with tyre pressure and needs to be reset. Service rep has advised us to not fill the tyres with nitrogen and just use air as nitrogen can mess with the sensors. If anyone can confirm and provide some clarity on this matter, I'd greatly appreciate it.
• This is a very comfortable car - Rear seat comfort was definitely above our expectations. A feature that would have been welcome - Rear USB port provision and AC blower controls.
• Infotainment system is average, can lag at times and Android Auto can be a pain to use. The 8 speaker Harman system is pretty good, it isn't 'fantastic' but definitely above average!
• 205mm of ground clearance. We're glad to bid adieu to all ground clearance issues within some of the cars we owned in the past (particularly our 2008 Honda Civic). The Nexon EV handles bad roads and poorly constructed speed breakers with ease.
• Service experience is truly lacking. Tata is very busy launching new 'editions' of their vehicles and I applaud how they've revolutionized their product offerings, however there seems to be no attention paid to taking care of their customers AFTER having bought their products.

Attached are some pictures of our car. Overall, the ownership experience has been good although a little troublesome:

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I felt under thigh support a little lacking in the front seats ( I’m 5’11). No problem with the rear seats.

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Took delivery of my Dark EV yesterday.

The entire process from booking till delivery took 10 days to complete. Showroom experience was good , however the SA received only one in 5 calls made by me, forcing me to visit the showroom multiple times for small queries.

Initial impressions:

• The car looks and feels very solid and premium.
• Black leatherette seats feel plush.
• Sports mode is dangerous.
• Good road presence, especially of the dark edition.
• I felt under thigh support a little lacking in the front seats ( I’m 5’11). No problem with the rear seats.
• Rear armrest is good , however I can’t fit my water bottle in the cup holders.

Detailed report coming soon.

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I’m certain I lost a year of my life with the amount of heartburn & screaming and shouting I had to do. No one likes to be have so much acrimony on delivery day.

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Got my car delivered on 4th September. Puneet Motors assured delivery would be very good and they need time to paint the panels that were identified in my stockyard visit etc, which I granted. Lo and behold, on the day of delivery they bring the car out and I see that nothing had been done on the scratches, not a single blooming thing! The delivery experience was so pathetic, I wasted 4hrs there getting things fixed; in fact I had initially refused delivery because they wasted my time and had sat in my car to leave. I told them you keep the car even though I have paid in full. The standards of Tata and its dealers are so low that they found nothing wrong in the way they handled the situation, for them it’s perfectly alright to hand over a pre scratched car to the customer.

Of special mention is a a General Manager of their Saki Naka outlet and was filling in for the Prabhadevi manager since he was away on family medical emergency. This blessed (insert a curse word of your choice) person was so disinterested that she actually rolled her eyes at me for asking them to fix things. I had initially refused delivery but on their constant nagging I said ok, I want ceramic coating done and she gave me a look as if I’m a stupid fool. She found nothing wrong with the fact they had no standard procedures to check the vehicle before handing over to the customer. She’s the epitome of how not to interact with a customer!]

The Tata Motors (not dealer) employee was accommodating but he also said “sir we have done the best we could”. Sad part is that they had done nothing but he said he’ll do something and gave me 3D mats and mud flaps complimentary on the car when I had been insisting on ceramic coat.

Finally we left after 4hrs, thoroughly disappointed-I’m certain I lost a year of my life with the amount of heartburn & screaming/shouting I had to do. No one likes to have so much acrimony on delivery day but Tata & Puneet ensured that I do. I must add my sales guy, a young fellow was conveniently absent on the day of delivery and his team leader was assigned to do the delivery. Both were equally clueless and careless despite documenting everything on email. I guess they’re living out the adage of pay peanuts and get monkeys.

The saddest part was my 70 year old father was with me the entire time and had to witness this waste of time and waste his time too. In the midst he actually went to the hospital because the hospital called (he’s still a practicing cancer surgeon and a mighty good one at that) Usually I never drag him along for deliveries unless it’s one of the nicer, premium family vehicle. Anyway this mistake won’t be repeated again.

Coming to the car itself, after nearly 3 weeks of usage, I find the car is pretty decent and that Tata have made good progress from the time when we last bought their product in ‘02. Only drawback is ride is a firm but we knew that before we bought it, so not really product fault. Only thing that I noticed is that the regen doesn’t work for until first 5-6kms charging the car to 100%. Do anyone of you guys also face this problem? We usually drive on regen level 3 and manage about 190-200kms on full charge. The least we’ve gone down to is 9% charge, our driver gets massive anxiety and insists on charging every night, even at 60% charge since the travel during the day can be unpredictable. At this point I do feel that a bigger battery pack would’ve helped but not the Max version with the leg space getting compromised.

I must mention, Tata have done a marvelous job on the seats, especially the front ones - mind blowing contours and support for the upper back! The Apple Car Play isn’t as fluid as I’d liked but won’t complain. The speakers audio quality is also quite decent for being stock fitment.

That’s all from me for now, I intend to start a thread on the vehicle at some point.

Cheers.

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I have recently joined the Nexon owners group and one of the biggest problems faced is a stuck charging gun.

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Hi guys. I have faced a few issues with my Nexon EV within couple of days of delivery:

• The window beading folds in with the power window.
• The request sensor stops working off and on.
• Post fast charging, the SOC started fluctuating showing erratic SOC.

Tata promised to resolve the issue and asked us to bring the car to the SC on Monday. On reaching there, the SC was clueless as to what is to be done as no instruction was passed on to them. A series of calls yielded no result. Finally we were told to leave the car and they have not been able to give a date as to when the issues would be resolved nor are they giving us a loaner car.

Sorry state of affairs at Tata seriously. Regretting purchase of a Tata vehicle.

Also, I have recently joined the Nexon owners group and one of the biggest problems faced is a stuck charging gun. The reason is that the actuator pin gets stuck due to collection of dust and mud. This is due to the charging port placed above the rear tyre which splashes mud. One needs to put your hand in and wiggle around to find a pin which when pulled manually releases the pin. Tata is unable to give a solution till date. Maybe placing a thread and pin in the boot compartment would be more helpful than putting your hand in small space above the tyre. Imagine doing that in the night with low visibility. Anyone has any short cuts?

Here's what BHPian sahakar had to say on the matter:

Till Tata comes up with a fool proof actuator cover (which they are working on), the following mostly works:

Clean the underbody beneath the charger port with a water pipe every couple of weeks or so. That washes away the mud and grime which is supposed to be the culprit for stuck actuator. Many a times the charging gun gets released with door look & unlock, hand brake release or starting the car in ready mode.

If the above doesn't work, then manual unlock by pulling the pin down is the final option to unlock the charging gun. It isn't hard once you get the hang of it.

Just FYI that I haven't still faced the stuck charging gun since 6 months I have the Prime.

Max and Tigor don't have this problem as they have a button on the dashboard to unlock.

Cheers.

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Tata Motors could be evaluating the Nexon EV Max for overseas markets.

The Tata Nexon EV Max has been spotted testing in New Zealand, which suggests that Tata Motors could be in the process of evaluating the electric SUV for overseas markets.

The Nexon EV Max is the long-range version of the Nexon EV. The test car seen in these images has no camouflage whatsoever. However, it has been de-badged. The Tata emblems at the front and rear have also been removed.

The Nexon EV is the most popular electric car in India. The Nexon EV Max was launched in May this year with prices starting at Rs. 17.74 lakh (ex-showroom).

The Nexon EV max uses a 40.5 kWh lithium-ion battery pack that offers an ARAI-certified range of 437 km on a single charge. The SUV is powered by a permanent magnet synchronous AC motor that has an output of 141 BHP and 250 Nm, allowing the car to accelerate from 0-100 km/h in 9 seconds.

Source: @motoroctane

My usage scenario is 50:50 between city and highway, around 10,000 km a year. I plan to hold to whatever car I buy for at least 8 to 10 years.

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Hello BHPians!

I have been in search of a car for quite a long time now and have deferred my purchase decision over and over again when new launches are announced. Now, with the prices of the Strong Hybrid Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder officially out, I am in a dilemma whether it is worth going for the Strong Hybrid with astronomical fuel economy or with a Diesel AT like the Kia Sonet or Kia Seltos or go all in on electric with a Tata Nexon EV or upcoming Mahindra XUV400.

As far as I know, in terms of fuel efficiency, the Diesels would do better on the highway but the Hybrids would be much better in traffic owing to the ability to drive in pure EV mode in traffic and slow speeds. EVs on the other hand would have been a much better choice had it not been for the limited range and lack of charging stations.

I was initially considering a budget of 15 lakhs on the road in Kerala and had finalized on the Kia Sonet HTX Diesel AT, but the launch of the Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder and the expertise of Toyota with hybrids to back it up made me reconsider my decision.

My initial requirements were:

• Automatic transmission SUV. (AMTs were a strict no however).
• Initial budget of 15 lakhs, now willing to stretch to 20 lakhs.
• Frugal, yet powerful enough for the highway.
• Reasonably spacious to seat 4 adults
• Long term reliability and good after sales service.

My usage scenario is 50:50 between city and highway, around 10,000 km a year. I plan to hold to whatever car I buy for at least 8 to 10 years.

With the budget increase, a few more options opened up including pure EVs and Hybrids and now I am in a dilemma, on whether to opt for a tried and tested diesel AT or go for a Hybrid or an environmentally friendly EV.

Do let me know your thoughts and all suggestions are welcome.

Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:

Very tough conundrum, especially because the number of EV & Hybrid models are extremely limited today. This will inevitably improve with time. But we are lucky to be having such discussions on varied powertrains. 10 years back, it was a standard NA petrol vs turbo-diesel choice.

An EV with ~ 250 - 300 km range is enough for 90% of us. Even for highway usage, fast charging options are coming up. If your destination is <300 km away, you can always charge it overnight. If your long 300+ km highway trips are just once in 3 - 6 months, you can rent or borrow an ICE vehicle.

I love Hybrids and think they are "today's" solution to doubling your fuel economy and reducing your carbon footprint. Toyota, Maruti & Honda have just launched proper hybrids and we can only hope that players like Hyundai, Kia & Tata follow soon. This is India's best bet for the next 10 years.

Diesel AT is the most practical choice, especially in the 15-lakh and up segments where model choices are plentiful. Specific to your usage & query, I would recommend the Sonet Diesel AT & the Nexon EV. Both are top class automobiles. Am unimpressed with the driving experience of the Toyota Hyryder Hybrid (going by our review).

Here's what BHPian Shreyans_Jain had to say on the matter:

The pricing of the Hyryder hybrid is fairly competitive and has set the cat amongst pigeons. It will be my pick above the likes of Sonet or Seltos diesel automatics. Pure EVs like Nexon are simply not practical for being your only car or if you have regular highway running. Maybe after 5-7 years, but not now. Great city car, but not enough range and inadequate + unreliable charging infrastructure for long distance use as of now.

Here's what BHPian ajayc123 had to say on the matter:

Analyse your anxieties:

• Range Anxiety: No to EV
• NGT Anxiety: No to Diesel
• Green Warrior Anxiety: Yes to Hybrid, EV

Jokes apart.

If your highway trips are short, and you have adequate EV charging arrangements, I would say EV.

If you experience tricky traffic situations on highway and require quick overtaking, EV or Diesel.

Your low usage does not justify Hybrid, and you may not even be able to recover the strong hybrid premium over weak Hybrid, while compromising on NHV and torque.

Here's what BHPian Vid6639 had to say on the matter:

I would like to have an EV but more and more I see the rapid development of EV's, the more they are like a mobile phone. Use for 2-3 years and they are outdated and throw away.

An EV will have barely any resale with the advancements in tech and cost reduction in batteries. You buy an EV with 250kms range today and after 3 years same one might be 500kms range. Who will buy a used EV with less than 200kms range after the battery degradation.

Anyone buying a used EV knows that 2nd owner will inevitably be the one having to spend for a new battery pack if 1st owner has used it for more than 5 years.

To finally conclude:

Here's what BHPian CCRider had to say on the matter:

An EV - If you have visibility into your destinations during your long trips and if those destinations have facility to charge.

My reasons:

• Main highways already have charging stations en route and there are apps that should help you locate reliable charging points.
• There are full fledged EVs that can do 350 to 400 kms on a full charge and several folks have already completed several highway trips. I believe once you do a trip or two you will get over the range anxiety.
• Its only going to get better with time and I think it will happen a lot faster than most people think due to the ease of setting up a charging station.
• Since you plan to keep your car for >5 years, it should age much better than the other two plus the economics will be in your favor.

IMO hybrids time will be short lived as there are already full fledged EVs already available. Speaking as a non-expert , from a systemic complexity point of view, hybrids seem inherently more complex than both ICE and EV as you have components of both systems plus another bunch of components to integrate the two systems. In most cases if a simpler system is available it will end up replacing the complex one.

Between Tata Nexon EV Max and the Mahindra I would go with the Tata as it is proven itself now plus you have a support community.

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