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BHPian V0id2003 recently shared this with other enthusiasts:
Hi TeamBHPians, this is my first ownership thread/review on TeamBHP and I wanted to start with the car that is really close to my heart, my beloved Verna 1.6 CRDi AT.
It was the start of 2018. We had replaced my mother's i10 1.2 AT with a Duster in Petrol CVT avatar, so we had two Dusters in our garage, the other one being my dad's 110 PS Manual. A month later, my dad was experiencing leg issues due to the Duster's heavy clutch and we decided to get rid of the manual Duster and get an automatic. We scouted many options – Honda City CVT, Tata Hexa, Toyota Yaris, Jeep Compass and so on.
We then visited a Hyundai showroom to check out the sales chart-topper Creta. However, as soon as we entered, we saw this beauty, the next-gen Verna. I immediately fell in love with its coupe-like looks; it had all the right proportions and looked really desirable.
One test drive of the Diesel AT and I absolutely loved the acceleration. It had segment-topping numbers – 128 BHP, 260 Nm, 9.15s 0-100. Couple this with the looks, it had stolen my heart. No car felt as exciting as this Verna. My parents were also convinced, as we used to have the 1st-gen Verna Diesel Manual back in 2009. It was also a rocket with its 110 BHP VGT Diesel. With full faith in Hyundai, we went for a second Verna yet again (God, we love repeating cars: Duster->Duster & now Verna->Verna ). I was only 15 when we bought the Verna.
The first time I drove was on closed private roads with my dad to learn driving and get a feel for it. A lot of memories and a lot of firsts for me in this car. My driving skills were refined with its steering wheel in my hands and my foot on the pulse of the 1.6 CRDi.
Time went on; I grew up and started college in Karnataka. Kids of my generation love to party around, drink and smoke. However, I was never into this culture and felt left out most of the time as I never indulged in such stuff. I was always into cars since my childhood and motorsports. I became an Alonso fanboy in my 4th grade and I still am one. Time away from home for me was like:
1) Missing my parents
2) Missing home-cooked meals
3) Missing driving this – my 1.6D Verna.
I used to dream at night of its steering wheel in my hand and the torque rush of the CRDi.
There is some excitement, a tingling feeling of sorts, only when I get to drive this car after a long time. I don't feel this sort of rush with any other car. There is this instant smile on my face when I go for a drive in this car. I do enjoy driving other cars like our facelifted Harrier (20k KMs & 1-year ownership review coming soon) as well, but that same emotional connect isn't there like with the Verna. It feels special to drive & a quick drive is good enough for me to clear out negetive thoughts or contemplate deep life stuff
A few photos I took this December as I am back home from Bangalore, enjoying it as much as I can before I leave again in January. I will again miss it for months till I can get back into the driver's seat.
The pretty DRL of the Verna
The car I always turn around and look back at after parking
The gorgeous coupe-like rear
Pretty tail lights as well
Moving onto practical stuff, leaving my emotional bias for the Verna aside:
Pros
1) The engine – The 1.6 CRDi is as exciting to drive as it was back in the day. It can still keep up with modern turbo petrols that have taken over the segment. It used to be one of the only few cars able to do a sub-10s 0-100 (9.15s). The 1.5 TSI & the 1.5 TGDi have overtaken it, but I still feel it is a hoot to drive.
2) The looks – I have mentioned it a lot already, but IMHO, this is still the best-looking C-segment sedan to this day. The Virtus is a close second; however, I am not a fan of its raised GC.
3) The efficiency – I can manage 12-14 kmpl in the city and 23-24 kmpl on the highway (though it hasn't seen highway usage since we got the Harrier). These are good numbers for a fast automatic sedan.
4) The sound system – The Arkamys sound system still sounds really good and is comparable to modern music systems. I feel it sounds better than my facelifted Harrier. The bass is tight and the vocals are clear.
5) The build/quality – The interior is a decent place to be in, not flashy but well laid out with good ergonomics and feels robust/built to last. Being on the international-grade K2 platform rather than the scaled-down Indian K2 gives it a solid feel.
Cons
1) Rear seating space – It's atrociously bad compared to segment standards. The coupe-like roofline reduces headroom significantly. At 6'2", it's a stark contrast compared to the Ciaz/City in terms of rear seating space.
2) The lack of steering feel – The chassis feels capable and solid; however, the steering leaves a lot to be desired. It feels lifeless and not as engaging as something like the Virtus/Vento.
3) The brakes– The brakes feel decent enough at best. The front disc setup is a disappointment and not a great match for the engine.
This being a diesel, NCR's NGT rules hang like a guillotine over its head. It's getting close to 7 years old now and there will come a time when we'll have to sell it off soon. If the situation permitted, I would've kept this car forever. My emotional attachment to it is that strong, but alas, that can never happen. My plan is to get a complete exterior fix-up, a Stage 1 tune from GTTunerz (160 BHP, 320 Nm) and an overhauled braking setup in the future when time permits. I will enjoy and make more memories with this car. It will always be my favorite, forever.
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BHPian bblost recently shared this with other enthusiasts:
Today, I had the weirdest experience with my Verna.
I left home in the morning and drove without a break for about 300 kms in exactly 5 hours. My distance to empty was at 70 kms, when I stopped for a fuel top up.
After refilling the tank upto auto cutoff, I moved forward about 5 feet and by mistake drove on top of a brick. This brick came under my rear tire and the car stopped as it was not able to climb it. This was an ordinary brick.
I switched the engine off and got down to check. Pushed the brick away. No other part of the car had made contact with it. So there was zero hit on the underbody.
Now, when I switched on the car, the engine will start and the rpm dropped to 0.
This happened multiple times.
I decided to stop the car where it was and went for a loo break. After about 10 mins, the issue was not resolved.
I assumed it was a fuel issue, but the bunk was looking ok and a motorcycle that came in filled about 5 liters and left without any issue.
I kept one foot on the brake and another on the accelerator. Started the car and floored it.
Car remained on.
I drove around the bunk about 4-5 times. Luckily the bunk was huge and quite empty.
Then drove about 5 kilometers. Stopped at the entry road for a moderate city and took an hour break as it was Friday and I had my prayers.
The car behaved completely normally for the remaining 350 kilometers, I drove to reach home.
I have no idea what caused this issue.
My suspicion is that the stone caused the car to think it was an accident and it cut off fuel supply to the engine.
Something I did, like the multiple starting attempts or the way I floored the accelerator, reset that sensor.
Bluelink diagnostics showed no anomalies.
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BHPian RaghavEvoX recently shared this with other enthusiasts:
Had been waiting to upgrade the AVN in my 2017 Hyundai Verna for a long time.
Old OEM one. Served nicely for last 7 years.
New Pioneer 6650BT (Thanks to dkaile)
Very smooth to operate
Picture clarity is great. This photo doesn't do justice.
Sounds far better than my OEM one
Reverse camera is decent enough. But no steering guidelines. Came as a free accessory from the dealer.
Total came to 28k.
Again, after a long wait, an impulsive purchase!
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BHPian Maxton07 recently shared this with other enthusiasts:
30000km UPDATE - 18 months with HYUNDAI VERNA SX(O) MT TGDi
Hello all & hope everyone is doing well.
Its been a while since I updated this thread. Am happy to report that the vehicle’s odo finally hit 31xxx km mark & pleased with the product so far. Since I’m one of the earliest beta testers of this model, I hope I’m eligible to give a long term review.
Lets begin with the positives of this vehicle:
1. 1.5TGDi – Tbh I was really proud of myself being a sedate driver until the ownership of Manza. But was I proved wrong post acquisition of this brilliant engine. This motor can make the vehicle disappear from a point in span of a second. Excellent torque rush from 1750rpm to 3500rpm that could stand against some luxury germans too in highways(Especially Bengaluru-Mysore expressways). Very solid & didn’t regret my choice for picking this over VAG twins.
2. Excellent NVH – Already mentioned in my previous update & it continues the same. Cruising along 120kph is like 80kph in this vehicle.
3. Goodyears lost 75% of its life in this 31k km tenure. Desperately waiting to upgrade the Michelins/Continental. Hope it increases the road grip & handling even more.
4. 4th gear is the tallest gear ever I’ve witnessed in a car. It starts at as low as 34kph & goes beyond 2xxkph.
5. Excellent in-cabin space with humongous boot capacity perfectly accommodating the road trips.
Niggles that I faced/facing till date:
1. Rear seat rattling- Even though got it rectified at the H.A.S.S twice, the issue still persists.(Edit: Resolved completely now)
2. 12V socket went kaput while using the laptop adaptor.(Edit: Resolved by changing the fuse)
3. Water leakage in sunroof – Not really a fan of this feature & it shows its true face within 5 months of usage. HASS couldn't able to resolve it somehow as they're citing the roof metal being deformed.
4. Side LED DRLs turned yellow. Been noticing this phenomena in almost all Verna’s out on the roads. Don’t know whether can this be replaced under warranty. Have to check with A.S.S. (Edit: Got it replaced under the warranty during 30k km service interval)
5. TPMS sensors had some issues with the cluster showing TPMS system fault and the same was rectified during the 30k service interval.
6. Pathetic wipers to say the least. Not really helpful in low light conditions as it proves to be absolutely useless.
7. Poor AC throw at the rear vents.
8. The engine judders severely below 1.1k rpm which I’m currently observing only in the 3rd gear. Already reported to A.S.S but yet to find a solution on that regard.
9. Hyundai engineers could’ve found a way equipping this MT with short clutch travel that would’ve been city friendly. This Long travel clutch takes a heavy toll on my left leg where at one point makes me to even regret the purchase during the city commutes.
So after the long 5k km Chennai-Pune-Delhi-Pune-Chennai road trip which was done back in June’2023, the vehicle was mostly lying in our driveway without much roadtrip dramas. I signed up my first ever job in a car dealership post my graduation to gain some experience in management field before venturing out to do my PG in MBA. The experience with working in a car dealership is going good so far with me occasionally taking the vehicle out once/twice a week. So the running should’ve gone down considerably right?
My thoughts were not coming to terms with the fact of leaving this 160bhp engine lying idle at home. So whenever I get a chance, I’d do atleast 300-350km short roadtrips in & around Chennai. I had done lots of Chennai to krishnagiri/Salem/Pondicherry runs during the ownership period to boost the odometer. Had undertaken roadtrips to Wayanad, Goa & Kanniyakumari as well in the meanwhile. Some tidbits of the roadtrips happened below.
Chennai to Wayanad:
Chennai to Goa:
Had a good English breakfast near Candolim beach
Had a bitter experience at Goa as one drunkard hit his bike on LHS door when the car was parked near the platform. Claimed the damages through acko insurance which was very seamless to be honest w.r.t approval as well as cashless settlement to the H.A.S.S.
Chennai to Kanniyakumari:
Hitting the mighty 30000km odo mark
Spotted our beloved Manza in OMR road doing its duties for the Owner No:2
30000km Service experience at HASS:
Received a timely call from HASS last month regarding 3rd service reminder at 29xxxkm as the 2nd service was done at same 19xxx km mark. I did ask them the service was due at 30k km only, so practically I’ve 1k km left for service due right? The executive corrected me saying that since the 2nd service was done at 19xxx km, the same 10k km interval should be followed in order to adhere Hyundai's vehicle warranty. That caught me bit surprised as how did they know that I’m exactly at 29xxx km mark when the service is due. So 10/10 for the timely call from the executive.
Since the vehicle had service maintenance package for 5 yrs/ 50k km, didn’t pay a penny for the service. But had raised the concern over the tpms system fault, LED drls turning yellow & vehicle swaying towards left under hard braking. Received the vehicle with the general oil checkup, wheel alignment & balancing done. Due to unavailability of DRLs parts & tpms sensors, they asked me to take the vehicle & come back once they receive the same from Hyundai under warranty which I got it done the following week.
Hyundai did a recall campaign on replacing the steering wheel buttons if I’m not wrong as per the info I got from Service advisor. Any existing owners received a call or so from service centre regarding the above recall? They removed the leatherette wrapped material to replace the buttons & got the same stitched back with black threads instead of the red ones that TGDi variants usually comes with. That got me annoyed this time as it going to be the 4th visit to HASS within a span of four weeks & waiting for their callback to replace it.
Fuelio Stats:
Planning to add this subtle sporty spoiler to justify the TGDi moniker in future
Photo credits: Hyundai
Overall a positive experience with the vehicle so far & hoping to do many more miles with this beast ahead. Catch you guys soon. Until then.
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BHPian fhdowntheline recently shared this with other enthusiasts:
Yesterday I encountered a most unusual and as yet undiagnosed issue in my Hyundai Verna DCT. I took my family to a restaurant in a popular high-street area in Balewadi, Pune in the afternoon. Lunch over, I walked back to the car and tried to start it with the push button. The car simply did not start, try as I might for a few times.
Removed the "smart key", placed it next to the stop-start, near it around it, everywhere. It simply could not detect the key.
The horn was working, the car was getting into ACC mode, and everything seemed ok. Then finally, dispatched the rest of my family through Uber, called RSA and then after an hour, a person appeared from the battery service.
He tried all sorts of jugaad, opening the battery terminal (to reset). He also asked me to try out the Bluelink start. Mind you, I have only recently changed my phone and had simply cloned over the app, never re-registered the car. So I went through that rigmarole and then tried to remote start from Bluelink. Nothing worked. The battery person was completely flabbergasted and said it was the first time that a battery reset had not worked. So towards the evening, we requested the Flatbed truck.
When the Flatbed guy arrived, he too started tinkering with the battery etc. But he was on a call with some technician, who had the notion that the car was "hung" or "stuck" in some Bluelink-related issue. So he again reset the battery, and we waited for some time, and then by around 6 pm or so (after an ordeal of 4 hours) I again sent a Bluelink command for remote start. And this time, the car started as if nothing had ever happened.
Not wanting to take chances, however, I took the car to the nearest service centre (Garve). Those folks were quite courteous, including the relationship person from whom I had purchased the car. Explained to the Service manager about this issue, and they too seemed to be a bit perplexed, but have promised that they will scan and resolve any potential issue.
At this point:
But one thing both the RSA guy and the Service Manager agreed- today's cars are sophisticated in technology, and therefore come with such potential pitfalls.
There are also a lot of What-Ifs - What if the car had failed to start when we were on our trip to Wai, say at a highway-side restaurant? With aged parents, it would have been a huge hassle to arrange for alternatives etc. Or at some remote location without nearby RSA access.
Will update you all with the outcome. But, it is a good idea to pause and think of just how much unnecessary tech is coming into our lives (remote start, smart key, ICE etc.)
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BHPian Dr.Naren recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
I drove more than 500 km post the ECU map update by Hyundai. The car did feel more powerful, but there was a very good difference when I filled XP 95, the difference with higher octane was not this much with the previous stock map. I was sure the car was making more power. BHPian blackbandit had dynoed his stock car (not the updated map) and it made 142 HP at wheels. My car did 156 HP at wheels, thanks to the updated stock map. We also logged various parameters and the turbo boost was higher in my car. Hyundai update is like stage 0.5 remap.
I got my car tuned by Wolf, mission 200 + HP haha. More details will be posted soon.
Here's what BHPian blackbandit had to share:
I had given my car for development at Engineering Exponent. Collaborating with Dr. Naren and the team at Wolf the car was able to make 211 BHP at crank and 196 WHP. This is a map that is still in test and requires 100 Octane fuel to extract everything out of it and would not be suitable for regular driving. I've run the 100 Octane map for more than 100Kms so far and faced no issues in regular driving conditions and quick bursts of high-speed runs. However, Dr. Naren did note that the IAT gets pretty high when the car is on full throttle on full load conditions and hence more testing and logging would be required and probably hardware upgrades as well to run this more safely.
Stock vs WHP vs BHP Graph on dyno.
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BHPian NK CA recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
I have a Maruti Ciaz MT and a Hyundai Verna IVT (purchased last year in place of my Ertiga).
The Ciaz is the daily runner and I am chauffeur-driven on all days except Sundays. It is supremely comfortable, especially from a back seat perspective.
I have now booked a Ciaz Alpha AT to replace my existing Ciaz MT as it fulfils a few creature comforts again (mentioned below) from a back seat perspective and that too at an attractive price point.
While the Verna is in every way an amazing car as compared to the Ciaz, it lags in terms of air conditioning, especially at the rear. And in general, to achieve an equivalent ambient temperature, the air conditioner in the Verna has to be set two degrees lower than in the Ciaz.
Further, the CarPlay in the Ciaz would enable usage of the infotainment system from the rear seat, a feature missing in other sedans. And last, the rear and side window curtains also add to the comfort.
I would agree with all points mentioned by SGTREPEAT in his post, especially in terms of reliability and Maruti service levels.
I would like to add that Gasoline Ethanol blended up to E20 can be used as fuel for this vehicle (applicable to other MSIL vehicles like Grand Vitara etc.) unlike vehicles which are only E20 compatible which adds to the peace of mind especially when travelling outside cities.
In short, it serves the purpose well as a chauffeur-driven car.
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Thanks to Mukul for sending this in. Heartfelt gratitude for sharing it with other enthusiasts via this Team-BHP share page!
Hello Team-BHP,
I am writing this to inform you & seek advice from you guys about Hyundai's claims.
I want to ask that if Hyundai is making 1.5 turbo engines and taking on the performance segment in India - then why are they claiming a user shouldn't use full throttle, else the car will overheat and stop functioning?
I want any advice on this, please.
Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
On a 158-BHP 1.5L Turbo-Petrol that is marketed for performance and used in their performance variants? This is the most RIDICULOUS response I have ever seen from a car manufacturer. I frequently redline all my cars, and also redline about 40 media test-drive cars a year, and have NEVER seen them overheating because of hard driving.
Better Hyundai fixes the problem / engine / cooling system, or detunes the engine.
Also, issue an advisory to Creta N-Line owners that their performance crossover shouldn't be driven with 100% of the throttle a lot.
Hyundai, pull your socks up and FIX IT. Accept that it is a problem first.
Here's what BHPian IshaanIan had to say on the matter:
Seems like Hyundai has yet to build a proper petrol motor; I thought it was just their old NA engines that were weak but now it looks like even their new DI Turbo mills aren’t up to the task. I redline my 2.5lac kms done F10D WagonR on a daily basis in fact it doesn’t even have a rev-limiter or an rpm gauge so I probably breach the redline considering I need to wring its neck out to overtake vehicles sometimes also considering its tall boy stance and floppy chassis, I even rev match to downshift in order to control the weight balance yet it has never given any issues. Considering what Hyundai is saying, the redline needs to be revised on this turbo petrol Vernas since I always thought that the redline indicated the safe upper rpm limit but I guess on a Hyundai it means ‘don’t go there’ at least it is a turbo petrol so I suppose one can just ride the torque wave in the mid-range and be satisfied with just that much.
Here's what BHPian careind had to say on the matter:
I am guessing it is the service center that is selling this drivel and not Hyundai per se. But definitely not without the taciturn nod from Hyundai.
If this becomes a big issue, then HML would step in and clarify or make a gesture to help.
Hyundai is selling a car, that too a high-performance one, and as long as the product is used within the framework of guideline usage, it should work as expected.
I would ask the OP to reply back to the service head who sent that mail to quote the relevant sections in the user manual that say the throttle should not be depressed to 100%.
He could also try the same manoeuvre with a TD vehicle in the presence of ASC guys, to make it clear whether it is a generic product issue or an issue specific to his vehicle.
Here's what GTO had to say on the matter once again:
You are correct, it is indeed the dealership, but the "service head" of Berkeley Hyundai - Mr. Ashok Sharma - no less. Service head giving such an explanation?
Here are BHPian BlackBandit's posts on the same issue:
I reported the overheating issue that I faced a few weeks back. They found no issues with the car but apparently, the hose connecting to the coolant reservoir is troublesome and they have placed an order for the part to replace the same under warranty.
Another issue I have been facing since is a while is slight vibrations when braking in high speeds. They told me they would replace the disc and pads under warranty. But again they did not have parts to service the same. I was asked to keep the car for a day because they wanted to check with other service centres for the parts. But today I got a call and they told me it's not available anywhere and they would place an order for it and I was asked to take the car back.
I don't understand why Hyundai service centres don't have parts like these in stock. I am in Bangalore and not some tier 2 or tier 3 city. Comparing my experience with Ford they had parts well stocked all the time and replacements were always a breeze. In 6+ years of ownership, I've never faced an issue where I had to take my car and return back to the service centre for repair. And this is even after their exit. Last December I got the steering rack of my Figo replaced within a day and they had the part in stock with them.
Coolant reservoir Hose replacement is apparently being done on all cars due to a potential bulging issue. Got mine replaced today along with the brake discs and pads.
I don’t have the exact details. But I assume there is a QC-related issue and there’s an official recall. Because on enquiring about the hose replacement that was done on my car with the SA, he mentioned it’s being changed on all cars that come for service irrespective of any issue reported. You can probably check with your service advisor and enquire about the same.
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BHPian TonyJames recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Finally got my Black Beast delivered!
Delivery process was pretty smooth and neatly done by Trident Indiranagar in Bengaluru.
Only con so far
But overall, I am very satisfied.
Plans for the future
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BHPian padukulkarni9 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Hello,
Please help me choose between:
This is the most crucial one. With a sea of complaints about Turbo DCT overheating in bumper-to-bumper traffic, I am a bit skeptical about choosing Verna Turbo DCT. Also, I see a few incidences of BS VI diesels choking DPF filters once in a while in heavy traffic. Don't see it as common as heating issues in DCT.
Does spending extra for diesel AT on Creta make sense?
Hyundai also provides a 7-year extended warranty but not sure if they do anything in case of heating issues.
Creta is around 3 lakh expensive with only a few additions like a Panoramic sunroof, blind view monitor camera, 360-degree camera, and slightly premium interiors (better-arranged screens), etc. If I choose the Creta, I would be stretching my budget though.
Although claimed fuel efficiency figures are better for Turbo DCT, turbo petrol engines are known to be sensitive to driving styles. With my heavy right foot or fondness for quick acceleration, I fear it to be in single digits in the city and below 15 on the highway.
Another option: Should I consider the Mahindra XUV700 AX5 Diesel AT at the Creta price with 4 airbags, no ADAS, and non-ventilated fabric seats?
Here's what BHPian ssoni.1411 had to say about the matter:
It all boils down to which engine is suitable for your driving needs. The Diesel engine has DPF hence if your highway running is high, I would suggest you to buy the Creta. It has an incredible street presence, smart styling and the Diesel engine is an excellent mile muncher.
If your running is low, you can go with either of the Creta or the Verna DCT. The DCT issues have been minimized and Hyundai even offers you a 7-year extended warranty program. I have a Venue DCT in the family and we haven't encountered any heating issues as of yet.
Here's what BHPian Aniket Verma had to say about the matter:
Any specific reasons for not considering the Creta N8/N10 Turbo DCT? N8 comes under Rs 22 lacs OTR (as you are ready to skip ADAS & 360-degree camera).
Some important points for your consideration:
- Extended Warranty: 7 years extended warranty is available only for Petrol models and not for Diesel models.
- DCT Transmission: Though dry DCT in Korean twins have been relatively reliable, if you are going ahead with DCT, 7 years warranty is a must-have.
- 360 Degree: Camera quality of Creta is best for a car under Rs. 30 lacs. I have found this to be the most useful feature.
- High Sitting positions: I have also moved from a Sedan to CSUV and am really enjoying the sitting position that Creta offers.
- N-line specific features: N Line comes with stiffer suspensions (more suited to highway / aggressive driving) and a relatively better steering wheel.
- N8 vs N10 : N10 comes with ADAS, 360-degree cameras and Ventilated seats. Whereas N8 offers an inbuilt Dashcam and wireless Android Auto / Apple Carplay
I have just completed a Delhi-Jaipur-Delhi journey, and driving with a higher sitting position, ADAS (adoptive Cruise control and Lane Assist) & Ventilated seats made this journey more comfortable in 42 degrees, compared to my old Sedan.
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