Surprisingly, the NA petrol version of the Alcazar seems to be in more demand than the diesel version.

BHPian Ays7 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

After booking Creta in the 1st week of February and being promised delivery in 12-16 weeks, the dealer still wasn't able to get it in the May allotment. I had booked 1.4 Turbo Phantom Black Petrol SX (O) DCT. The dealer seemed unsure as to when he could get me a car and said that Turbo Petrol automatics were in really short supply and he wasn't sure how much more time it would take.

I told him that I wouldn't want to take delivery of the car after June, especially as Facelift for Creta was just around the corner and it has the missing 360-degree camera and blind view monitor along with other features. He understood my issues but wasn't sure when the new Creta Facelift would be launched as well.

Finally, just out of sheer chance and since I was in the showroom, I checked out the 6-seater Alcazar and it felt nicer than Creta, even though it is just an extended Creta. My wife loved the captain seats and they felt plush. Given that the car was primarily meant for just the 3 of us (me, wife and our 13-month-old kid), using it as a 4-seater with a big boot and only using the rear row very rarely, this fit the bill as well. We have two sedans in the garage, one Ciaz CNG and one Vento 1.2 TSI DSG. My dad is a paralytic and we need a sedan in the garage for his travel needs and his wheelchair, so most of our complete family trips with parents involve the use of two cars as it is.

Therefore while I will miss the peppiness of a Turbo engine, after taking a test drive of a petrol Alcazar 6-seater, I found that the 2.0 Ltr NA Petrol wasn't a slouch either and I could live with it. So we went ahead and booked a 6 Seater Petrol AT Signature (O) Alcazar in Starry Night colour.

Now the strange part, for some reason the dealers all across Mumbai have diesel versions in stock but are quoting long waiting for Petrol versions. I was offered a Dual Tone Titan Grey Petrol for immediate delivery, but my wife was firm with the colour so the dealer has now promised that he will make sure we get one in next month's allotment, so fingers crossed. I was surprised because usually, Diesel is in high demand, but clearly, for Alcazar, it seems to be the other way round.

Anyways, the wife wasn't willing to compromise on colour after shelling out 24 big ones so it is another waiting game now.

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Except for a handful of trims, prices of all petrol and diesel variants have been increased.

Hyundai has silently increased the prices of the Venue, Creta and Alcazar SUVs.

Except for the 'Diesel SX MT' variant, prices of all petrol and diesel variants of the Venue have been increased by Rs. 12,000.

Earlier this week, Hyundai announced the launch of the 2022 Creta. While the SUV has received a few updates, prices have also been hiked by Rs. 16,100 across all variants. That being said, the price of the Petrol S MT trim remains unchanged.

Hyundai Alcazar prices have gone up by Rs. 10,100. However, the Petrol Signature (O) dual-tone 6-seater and all three Diesel Signature (O) trims remain unaffected by the price hike.

Test drove a lot of SUVs, including the Kia Seltos, Mahindra XUV700, Jeep Compass and even the Hyundai Tucson.

BHPian Naetik30 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I currently drive a 2014 Hyundai Verna CRDI SX MT with 1,25,000 km on the ODO. With a 56kms daily commute, was looking for an upgrade since last year. Actually, was smitten by the ADAS tech on offer in the MG Astor and that's when the new car quest started.

The short version of the story: Tried out almost all vehicles in 25L to 40L OTR Bangalore and then settled for the Hyundai Alcazar by chance. Booked it this week and expect delivery in the next few days.

The long version of the story - My basic requirements:

• Must be an AT.
• A torque converter.
• Must be an upgrade (space-wise from my current Verna).
• Love tech. More the better.
• Preferred budget of about 25L. Stretchable to 35L for the right vehicle.
• Need a big boot space. We carry our house when we travel to our home town. Usable space should be at least as big as our Verna. The Verna really spoilt us with the boot.
• Initially, wanted to switch to petrol due to the DEF and BS6 issues with Diesel.
• We are a family of 2 adults + 1 10-year-old. It is just the 3 of us for 95% of the drives. Very rarely, we may have 1 or 2 added in.
• Panoramic sunroof (this was added as a requirement after we test drove the Astor).
• Should have a nice premium dash (again added after test driving the Astor).
• Captain seats at the rear would be nice to have (added after checking out the Hector).
• As many safety features as possible. Minimum six airbags.

The quest started after the launch of MG Astor. Here are the cars we checked out:

MG Astor

Somehow loved the Mazda-ish looks of this car. Loved the videos and was impressed with the tech. After launch, visited the MG showroom in Coimbatore. I should say, the MG showrooms look much more premium than the rest of the showrooms we visited. The car's dash was the first thing that impressed us. The tech on offer was amazing. The soft-touch all around was great to feel. But the interiors felt a little smaller than the Verna, especially the shoulder room. And the boot, the less said the better. They have really made it too small. I feel it is in the range of 350 litres.

MG Hector/Plus

When checking out the Astor, my wife and son wandered over to Hector. My wife loved the captain seats at the back in the Hector Plus. I had always felt Hector looked nice, but the tallish stance was a bit of an eyesore. But felt I could live with it. Pretty much ticked most of the boxes. The only issues I had that prevented me from booking were - Chinese origins, CVT gearbox, no diesel automatic, and laggy touchscreen. So decided to check out the rest before taking a call.

Kia Seltos

Checked this out. Loved the exteriors. But again the interiors and boots were smaller than the Verna. Staff in the Kia showroom weren't really interested in selling the car. The small panoramic sunroof was a downer for my son and wife.

Jeep Compass

Now, this was a vehicle I loved. The new dash is superb. Loved the fit and finish. The Model S at 38L did not feel value for money. We did not feel like we are getting enough cars for the moolah. Also, I understand what everyone meant by a confused automatic gearbox. It did not seem to shift when we expected it to. And the rear seat was definitely smaller than what we wanted. Put this on hold.

Hyundai Alcazar

Visited the Hyundai showroom right after we checked out the Jeep Compass. It was more of a cursory visit to make sure we are not leaving anything out. Somehow, did not like the car, as the one on display was the 7 seater. (Note: if you are getting the Alcazar, check out the 6 seater - looks way more premium). Did not even sit in the car and just walked out.

By this time, I was sure I was not ready to spend 30L on a car that I did not like. I have always wanted the Hyundai Tucson and decided to wait for the new-gen release with all the fancy grill, ADAS and more. So the car buying plan was put on hold for 4+ months.

Mahindra XUV7OO

I frankly did not like the demo vehicles I saw on the road (especially that purple shade looked horrible). But in March 2022, started seeing some on the road and thought, it was not bad. And in fact, looked good from some angles. Walked into the Mahindra showroom on Hosur road in Bangalore on a weekend. It was crowded. But was attended to by a salesperson quickly and got to test drive both the Petrol and the Diesel top end automatics. The engine and gearbox combo was superb. The car just doesn't seem to run out of breath. Even my hardest driving seemed to need only about 50% of the car's capability. It was that good. This had the most power among all vehicles I test drove. I was always wary of the niggles in TATAs and Mahindras. During the test drive, the SA tried to show something on the touch screen and the screen did not respond. Strike One. The front dash though was filled with gizmos and did not seem as well put together/designed as the Jeep Compass or some of the other cars. The driver and co-passenger door pads have this weird protrusion on the inside that you won't find on the outside. It is tough to explain in words. Another design flaw. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. Strike Two. After the test drive, my wife noticed that the paint on the boot door of the test drive vehicle had completely faded. When asked, the SA gave a vague response about the vehicles getting washed daily resulted in this. Was not convinced one bit. This is a major concern. Owners watch out. After all this, I still liked the power and space the vehicle provided. But wanted to wait a few days before I booked.

Hyundai Tucson (current-gen)

Decided to check out the Diesel current-gen Tucson, as there was news of some big discounts on offer. Called up 5 different dealers in BLR. Advaith and Trident did not have test-drive vehicles readily available last weekend. Only Blue Hyundai had it and went down to test drive the Tucson last Sunday post-lunch. The agreement with my wife was - that it is a generation old vehicle, if she doesn't like it, we will drop the plans and wait for the new Tucson. Tested the diesel Tucson 4WD. The engine is great. The gearbox is great. But the car has nothing else to offer. It is an old model and it shows. Especially after checking out the above vehicles, this one seemed out of place. The wife was clear she did not like it. So dropped it.

Back to Alcazar: At Blue Hyundai, after the Tucson test drive, my wife casually walked over to check the Alcazar. They had starry night and grey colours on display. Plus they were the 6 seater versions on display. My wife liked the car and called me. I actually did not mind the Alcazar this time around. Especially in the Starry Night. Last time I had seen the Alcazar in 7 seat config in white and did not like it one bit. Can even say I hated it last time. This time, I was OK with it.

Asked the SA for a test drive. They did not have the Diesel AT available, so test drove the Petrol AT. I knew the car was not all I expected from an upgrade but had 95% of what I needed at a cost I was very comfortable with. Especially when compared to the Jeep Compass at Rs 38L (and rumoured Tucson next-gen at 40L+), this seemed like great value for money.

The team-BHP review on the Alcazar is very mixed. The 3rd-row seats are not very usable. But for me, I will have the 3rd row folded and will only use it as a 4 seater. My wife is 5'6" and found the 2nd row very comfortable. I am 5'10" and found the driving seat very comfortable. The tech on offer - the list is endless, do not want to repeat what everyone has already said. I liked that the camera views are crisp and clear - unlike Hector. Something I would have liked - a powered tailgate, powered co-driver seat, little more soft plastics/leather on the dashboard. Hey, there is no perfect car.

1. Torque Converter AT. Check.
2. Captain seats at the rear. Check.
3. Panoramic sunroof. Check.
4. Big boot. Check. With the last row down.
5. Cost - At 25L OTR. Double-check.
6. Upgrade over the Verna. Check.
7. Lots of techs. Check.
8. ADAS. This is a miss. Most like will be added to the facelift that would come in a few years. Will miss it.
9. Safety. I know with Hyundai, this is a mixed bag. Possibly Alcazar would also just clear the 3star mark on GNCAP. But I am getting this for a lack of a better option at the moment. I hope the available tech + 6 airbags + stability control, etc helps on the Signature variant.

I booked the Hyundai Alcazar Signature Diesel AT on April 25 and did the PDI on the same day. Expecting delivery in the next few days.

Note: Some rumours on the Hyundai Tucson I heard from different dealers:

1. Factory production has stopped for the current gen. This is confirmed by all.
2. There are about 3000 current-gen Tucsons that need to be sold and a new Tucson will be launched post that. Take this info with a pinch of salt. This was mentioned by someone who was trying to get me to book an Alcazar.
3. Tucson may only be launched in petrol and hybrid. No diesel for India. Again, take this with a pinch of salt.
4. I heard two ranges for the Tucson cost at launch (starting at 37L OTR and another mentioned starting at 45L OTR).

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Kia is also developing CNG variants of the Sonet and Carens.

Kia has been testing a couple of CNG models since last week. We first saw the Sonet CNG being put through its paces, followed by the Carens CNG. Now, the Hyundai Alcazar CNG has been spied for the first time.

An Alcazar CNG test mule equipped with an emission testing kit was recently spotted in Pune. It is still unclear if the SUV will continue to use the 2.0-litre petrol engine or get the 1.4-litre turbo-petrol from the Carens, which is also being tuned to run on CNG.

Currently, the SUV is offered with two engine options: 2.0-litre petrol engine producing 157 BHP and 191 Nm and a 1.5-litre diesel engine that puts out 113 BHP and 250 Nm. Both engines are offered with either a 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic transmission.

The 1.4-litre turbo-petrol engine powering the Carens makes 138 BHP and 242 Nm. However, the engine output when running on CNG is expected to be lower. It is expected to be paired with a 6-speed manual transmission.

The Sonet CNG spotted earlier in the month is also expected to be powered by a turbo-petrol engine. The 1.0-litre unit makes 118 BHP and 172 Nm when running on petrol.

Source: Motorbeam

I don't want to get stuck with single-digit fuel economy figures post purchase.

BHPian nadbe recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Team,

I am finalizing the Hyundai Alcazar petrol AT Signature. How much FE should I expect? As such, my yearly running will be less than 8k with 80% city driving. Although my running is less, don't want to get stuck with 5 -6 km/l mileage.

If petrol AT is bound to reach 5 to 6 km/l after around 1 - 2 years of usage, I may consider diesel. It will help in resale as well.

Here's what BHPian vivekkp had to say on the matter:

The general rule I follow is that for heavier cars, diesel is the preferred option. This is because cars which seat 6+ have higher chances for carrying more load than a 5-seater and also the kerb weight of these cars are higher. In these cases, the extra torque + larger band provided by the diesel improves the driveability.

But you have to go ahead with what your heart liked.

Here's what BHPian yajaman99 had to say on the matter:

I am using the Alcazar 1.5 AT 6S in Bangalore and I normally keep the panoramic roof open.

When the car is parked in the sun for a few hours the cabin does get hot.

So I normally open the windows and pop open the sunroof and fire up the Aircon to full. I would say in 5 to 10 mins all is good.

So depending on where I park I at times close the panoramic roof.

Summary, no complaints on the Air Con front.

I too was in this situation of FE Petrol vs Diesel.

You need to understand what is your driving usage, each person is different.

Take me for example I use the car for short runs to the local grocery store 2km away and to my parent's place 3 km away.

The short runs play a big factor in FE if you ask me.

My current FE without going to the office (60 km round trip) is around 12km/l

So when I calculated the Petrol 2.0L FE for my usage I was sure I would get around 7 to 9 Km/l and overall may hit a 10 but need to be prepared for single-digit at times.

Below is a picture of the Accumulated info, I am going by the car's calculation and not by the full tank to full tank approach.

If FE is a major concern the other option is an Electric Vehicle. I was very close to getting MG ZS EV instead of the Alcazar however for the following reason I did not.

1. I stay in a rented apartment
2. Was not able to upgrade to 3Phase power
3. Did not want to connect the 15amp plug all the time for charging
4. The Alcazar's Gadgets got me hooked

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Regarding the tyre themselves, planning either the Michelin XM2 or Yokohama C drive 2.

BHPian herculesksp recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hi Folks,

I am buying a Hyundai Alcazar 2.0 (P) AT and I was thinking about upgrading the tyres on it.

In the past, I've always wanted to upsize tyres on my cars, but I've usually had leased cars and hence did not do it upon buying. By the time the lease was coming to an end, I would like some other car on the market and switch to it. The upgrade dream would restart with the new car.

This time I'm getting the Alcazar at my own cost and I was thinking about what should I do to make it better.

With age, I've come to realize that a comfortable and silent ride and better road grip is more important than large rims. So I'm thinking the better upgrade option for Alcazar is to actually downsize.

Now the lower variants get a 17" allow vs the higher trims that get an 18". I think the alloy's design/quality is the same, so I'm going to ask the dealer for a downsize swap.

Q1: Do you think it's a good idea to swap down the alloy tires? Can I get it done for free or will they ask me to shell out the cash? Would it make sense to see if other customers getting delivery at the same time would like an upsize?

Assuming that the forum convinces me to downsize, I was thinking of getting a 235 width tire for better grip / cornering. With the base size of 215/60 R17, the fatter option is 235/55 R17.

Q2: Will the 2.0 NA Petrol be able to handle a 235 section tire? Given it has only 191NM torque, will the car feel underpowered and sluggish to drive?

Q3: 235 sections goes back to a 55 profile. Will the ride comfort be impacted, or is this still ok since profile height should still be more than 215/55.

Finally regarding the tires themselves. I've seen on this forum feedback about Michelin XM2, Yoko C drive 2 etc. Some have even said that their 215/55 R18s are much better than the stock 215/55 R18. How much of this is a placebo and how much of this is the truth?

Q4: How do I decide which tire (make / model) I should go for, for good ride comfort, less road noise, and moderate-ish highway speeds (100-120 kmph). Is there a stack rank of good tires models in India?

Thanks for the help / advice.

Here's what BHPian Kosfactor had to say on the matter:

In my observation Hyundai always gets their wheels and tyres correct, It would be a waste of money to downsize or upsize. In most of their vehicles, you could do only 1 size up without having to hack through the fender lining\ bumper etc.

There would be some harshness on rough roads with an 18-inch wheel in comparison to a 17 inch but overall it's not something drastic to warrant a change. 215 section width is like that of a Duster \ Bolero - as in very competent at doing its job on Alcazar, 235 would be similar to Scorpio \ Sumo etc, it would be an overkill and most likely it would make things worse, be it traction \ acceleration \ braking \ fuel economy \ suspension wear to name a few.

Vehicles like this that are fully loaded from the factory need nothing more than just fuel, the Petrol AT is a pretty fast car though, enjoy it.

Here's what BHPian supertinu had to say on the matter:

Regarding tire upgrade, my recommendation would be to not change the size in itself but just switch to better Michelin rubber on purchase. Hyundai doesn't undertyre their cars.

Here's what BHPian Shreyans_Jain had to say on the matter:

Appreciate your thought of downsizing from R18 to R17. Has benefits, and no downsides.

If you can get the dealer to agree to swap to the R17 setup, that’s the best option. Even if you have to make a little extra expense.

The potential problems with 235/55R17 will be the added unsprung weight and the extra load on the steering rack and power steering motor. The added risk is not worth the reward here. 215 is wide enough of this kind of vehicle and the power at hand.

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Maruti planning new models to take on the Hyundai Venue, Creta and the Alcazar.

Maruti Suzuki has confirmed that it will launch five new SUVs in India in the next 3 years, including a 3-row SUV to take on the likes of the Hyundai Alcazar, MG Hector Plus and Tata Safari.

The 3-row SUV (codenamed: Y17) could be based on the Ertiga platform. It might replace the XL6 and will be positioned at the top of Maruti's SUV range.

Maruti is also planning a new model to take on the Hyundai Creta. Codenamed YFG, this car is expected to be based on Toyota's DNGA platform. It could be powered by a 1.5-litre petrol engine.

Now, let's take a look at some of the other SUVs that Maruti has lined up for us:

Next year, the company will launch the updated Vitara Brezza (codenamed: YTA). The crossover is expected to be powered by a 1.5-litre mild-hybrid petrol engine. Besides the cosmetic update, the Brezza will also get new features like a larger infotainment system, wireless charging, a sunroof and paddle shifters in the automatic variants.

Maruti Suzuki will take on the likes of the Hyundai Venue and Kia Sonet with a new compact SUV (codenamed: YTB). It is expected to be based on the Heartect platform and could be powered by a 1.5-litre petrol engine.

Finally, there's the long-awaited Jimny. A 5-door version is on the cards for India, even though the 3-door Jimny is already being produced for export markets. It too will be powered by a 1.5-litre petrol engine and will rival the Mahindra Thar.

Source: Autocar India

Until now, a petrol Alcazar with 7 seats was only available with a 6-speed manual transmission in the base Prestige and Platinum trims.

Hyundai seems to have silently launched a new variant of the Alcazar. It's a top-spec 7-seat petrol automatic variant that has been missing from the Alcazar range since its launch.

According to this document, the Alcazar Signature (O) 7-seater Petrol AT variant costs Rs. 24,96,839 (on-road, Bangalore).

The Signature (O) is the fully-loaded trim of the Alcazar. It comes equipped with features like 18-inch diamond-cut alloy wheels, a 10.25-inch touchscreen infotainment system with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, a digital instrument cluster, ventilated seats, automatic climate control, wireless charging and a panoramic sunroof; to name a few.

The Signature (O) 7-seat Petrol AT is powered by the 2.0-litre engine that makes 157 BHP and 191 Nm. The engine is paired with a 6-speed automatic transmission. Until now, if you wanted a Petrol Alcazar with 7 seats, your only options were the base Prestige and Platinum trims which came with a 6-speed manual gearbox.

Thanks to the Team-BHP fan (he prefers to remain anonymous) who sent this image in. Heartfelt gratitude for sharing it with other enthusiasts via this Team-BHP share page!

The Alcazar is available in three trim levels - Prestige, Platinum and Signature. It competes with the MG Hector Plus and Tata Safari.

According to a media report, Hyundai has discontinued the entry-level 6-seater variants of the Alcazar. It is said that the SUV is no longer available in 6-seat Prestige Petrol MT and Prestige (O) AT trims.

The Alcazar is the 7-seat version of the Creta. It was launched in June this year. The Prestige 6-seater Petrol MT was priced at Rs. 16.45 lakh, while the Prestige (O) 6-seater Petrol AT was offered at Rs. 17.93 lakh (ex-showroom).

The Alcazar is available with two engine options – a 2.0-litre petrol engine producing 157 BHP and 191 Nm and a 1.5-litre diesel engine that puts out 113 BHP and 250 Nm. Both engines are offered with either a 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic transmission.

It is believed that a lack of demand may have forced Hyundai to take these variants off the shelves. Both variants were listed on Hyundai's official website at the time of compiling this story.

Source: Rushlane

The Creta Grand is a 7-seat version of the Hyundai Creta.

The Hyundai Alcazar is now available in Mexico as the Creta Grand.

The Creta Grand is available in two trims - Limited and GLS Premium. The SUV comes equipped with LED headlamps, a panoramic sunroof, a 10.25-inch touchscreen infotainment system and a digital instrument cluster. It also gets features such as ventilated front seats, ambient lighting and an air purifier.

The Creta Grand is offered with a 2.0-litre petrol engine that produces 157 BHP and 191 Nm. The engine is mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission.

In India, the Alcazar is also available with a 1.5-litre diesel engine. This unit puts out 113 BHP and 250 Nm and is offered with a choice of a 6-speed manual or 6-speed automatic gearbox.