Best Cars For Around 60k

sureshkishore · 29th May 2010, 07:30

Hi Guys,

The Issue:

Parking for our Office is usually on the Road Side. Dings and Scratches are quite common. Its depressing to see your well cared car with a bad scratch when you come to pick it up in the evening after work.
Current Cars: SX4 and a lovely SS80 DX. The latter I wouldn't even consider taking out in the rain, forget about parking it on the road.
I would consider using my Bullet if not it was my Bad Back and the erratic rains we have in Kerala.(Days as a Biker almost over).

Requirements:
Cheap: Around 50-60k,(Including basic refurbishment)
Reliable:Shouldn't break down. If it does shoud be easy/cheap to fix
Effective A/C is a Must.

Cars I have Come Across:

1) 2000 Matiz- 70000 Kms- Price 55000Rs (Good)
2) 1996 M800 DX - 45000Kms Price 60000Rs (Excellent)
3) 1994 Zen- ???? Kms -65000RS (Very Shabby car)
4) 1995 Esteem 85000 Kms 60000Rs. (Superb car, Well cared)
5) 2001 Palio 1.2EL 90000Kms 70,000 Rs (A/C not working)

Though the only sedan in the group, inclined towards getting the esteem.

Need Your Advice Guys!

mnhegde · 29th May 2010, 08:26

I would look at option no.2 (800DX) and option no.4 (Esteem). Both are good cars, one is a small wonder and the other one is a fun to drive car. Haven't checked out the effectiveness of 800's A/c, Esteem A/c is quite good. Both are light on the pocket and easy to maintain. Whichever You choose, try to get the price down by around 5000/- to 6000/-. All the best, Keep updating the thread

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musicmanaman · 29th May 2010, 08:43

Option 2 and 4 are best, however both have weak AC's.

sureshkishore · 30th May 2010, 05:40

so option 2&4 gets max votes.

As said earlier more inclined to the esteem. Asking rate is 70k But I am sure it is negotiable to about 60k.(Market rate here). Need to spend about 5K on body polish touch up and all oil's fluids needs to be changed. Apart from that the car is great to drive. Its got New Clutch, Front Tires. Neat Interiors, Decent Sterio.

A/C seems great. cools instantly. May be Because of the Monsoon factor.

sureshkishore · 30th May 2010, 05:41

Took pics of the car with my mobile cam.
Pardon the quality of the photos.

Pics Below.

mnhegde · 30th May 2010, 08:40

@ Suresh: From the pictures, the exteriors seems to be good except for few dents, but that's ok for a 15 year old car. Interiors look good. Go for it Friend

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wildsdi5530 · 30th May 2010, 08:50

What about the Opel Astra, HM Ambassador,

Sankar · 30th May 2010, 09:29

Take the Esteem if parking is not a problem for you at home/office. It looks to be in good condition for its age.

raj_5004 · 30th May 2010, 09:43

i was about to suggest an opel astra/corsa, but then he needs a reliable car!

Anand123 · 30th May 2010, 13:09

I too think that the Esteem is the one to go for. From the pics it looks clean. I think you should negotiate the price to 50k. That's the price of a 95 model Esteem in Kerala. If you can increase your budget to around 80-85K, you may be able to find a 97/98 model Esteem VXI which will offer you the convinience of power steering.

samsag12 · 30th May 2010, 13:38

Sureshji go ahead with the Esteem. It doesn't needs any introduction and if in good mechanical condition the car is a rocket for the price. But do check wear and tear of rexine on the dash as well as door pads. Car of this age most probably have this problem.
Rates can vary from 50k to 80k depending on condition and mileage.

sureshkishore · 30th May 2010, 14:15

@Sankar Parking space is not an issue but I need a car that I can feel at peace leaving on the road side. At home I have just about enough space to accommodate the esteem.

@anand: I have seen 4 esteems in the 50-60 price range in the last couple of months. The rest were in such a bad shape that I even dropped the idea of esteem as an alternative.
But this car totally changed my mind. The car is a gem to drive. MASS helped me with getting the history of the vehicle. All service records with the Dealer.

The only other car I was really impressed was the M80096DX. Again immaculate condition with MASS history. Price fixed at 60k.

So It is 96 M800 v/s 95 Esteem.

1)Both Cost the Same 60K.
2)Mechanically both are sound.
3)The 800 body appears better than the Esteem. Esteem needs touch-up+polish.
4)The A/c is not that Effective in M800.
5)Value: Esteem used to Sell for twice the price of a 800DX in 1996.
6)Service/Reliability: Both are Maruti

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7)ICE
Esteem:Old Gen Pioneer Cassette Player with a 12 CD changer(Must have been the in-thing those days).
M800:You would have to sing your fav tune yourself.

I am not comparing power, safety,comfort...etc

I am almost convinced on the Esteem.
As Anand suggested I would surely bargain for the price.

But I don't think it would go below 60k.

sureshkishore · 30th May 2010, 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsag12

But do check wear and tear of rexine on the dash as well as door pads. Car of this age most probably have this problem.

Thats a valuable input. Will look at that too.

Dear All,
Final negotiations will happen today. If every thing goes well then I would but it today itself.

ghpk · 30th May 2010, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by sureshkishore

Thats a valuable input. Will look at that too.

Dear All,
Final negotiations will happen today. If every thing goes well then I would but it today itself.

Best of luck buddy,
hope esteem gets a new and caring owner like you.

vjabraham · 30th May 2010, 14:49

The Esteem sounds like and from the pictures, looks like the sweetest deal!

So go ahead and make it yours!

All the best with the negotiations!

29th May 2010, 07:30	#1
sureshkishore BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 481 Thanked: 298 Times	Best Cars For Around 60k Hi Guys, The Issue: Parking for our Office is usually on the Road Side. Dings and Scratches are quite common. Its depressing to see your well cared car with a bad scratch when you come to pick it up in the evening after work. Current Cars: SX4 and a lovely SS80 DX. The latter I wouldn't even consider taking out in the rain, forget about parking it on the road. I would consider using my Bullet if not it was my Bad Back and the erratic rains we have in Kerala.(Days as a Biker almost over). Requirements: Cheap: Around 50-60k,(Including basic refurbishment) Reliable:Shouldn't break down. If it does shoud be easy/cheap to fix Effective A/C is a Must. Cars I have Come Across: 1) 2000 Matiz- 70000 Kms- Price 55000Rs (Good) 2) 1996 M800 DX - 45000Kms Price 60000Rs (Excellent) 3) 1994 Zen- ???? Kms -65000RS (Very Shabby car) 4) 1995 Esteem 85000 Kms 60000Rs. (Superb car, Well cared) 5) 2001 Palio 1.2EL 90000Kms 70,000 Rs (A/C not working) Though the only sedan in the group, inclined towards getting the esteem. Need Your Advice Guys! Last edited by sureshkishore : 29th May 2010 at 07:32.
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29th May 2010, 08:26	#2
mnhegde BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: B E N G A L U R U Posts: 473 Thanked: Once	I would look at option no.2 (800DX) and option no.4 (Esteem). Both are good cars, one is a small wonder and the other one is a fun to drive car. Haven't checked out the effectiveness of 800's A/c, Esteem A/c is quite good. Both are light on the pocket and easy to maintain. Whichever You choose, try to get the price down by around 5000/- to 6000/-. All the best, Keep updating the thread .
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29th May 2010, 08:43	#3
musicmanaman BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: kolkata Posts: 927 Thanked: 25 Times	Option 2 and 4 are best, however both have weak AC's.
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30th May 2010, 05:40	#4
sureshkishore BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 481 Thanked: 298 Times	so option 2&4 gets max votes. As said earlier more inclined to the esteem. Asking rate is 70k But I am sure it is negotiable to about 60k.(Market rate here). Need to spend about 5K on body polish touch up and all oil's fluids needs to be changed. Apart from that the car is great to drive. Its got New Clutch, Front Tires. Neat Interiors, Decent Sterio. A/C seems great. cools instantly. May be Because of the Monsoon factor.
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30th May 2010, 05:41	#5
sureshkishore BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 481 Thanked: 298 Times	Took pics of the car with my mobile cam. Pardon the quality of the photos. Pics Below. Last edited by sureshkishore : 30th May 2010 at 05:42.
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30th May 2010, 08:40	#6
mnhegde BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: B E N G A L U R U Posts: 473 Thanked: Once	@ Suresh: From the pictures, the exteriors seems to be good except for few dents, but that's ok for a 15 year old car. Interiors look good. Go for it Friend .
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30th May 2010, 08:50	#7
wildsdi5530 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,451 Thanked: 2,062 Times	What about the Opel Astra, HM Ambassador,
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30th May 2010, 09:29	#8
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,229 Times	Take the Esteem if parking is not a problem for you at home/office. It looks to be in good condition for its age.
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30th May 2010, 09:43	#9
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,241 Thanked: 3,163 Times	i was about to suggest an opel astra/corsa, but then he needs a reliable car!
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30th May 2010, 13:09	#10
Anand123 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 2,306 Thanked: 5,308 Times	I too think that the Esteem is the one to go for. From the pics it looks clean. I think you should negotiate the price to 50k. That's the price of a 95 model Esteem in Kerala. If you can increase your budget to around 80-85K, you may be able to find a 97/98 model Esteem VXI which will offer you the convinience of power steering.
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30th May 2010, 13:38	#11
samsag12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: City of Nawaabs Posts: 1,626 Thanked: 259 Times View My Garage	Sureshji go ahead with the Esteem. It doesn't needs any introduction and if in good mechanical condition the car is a rocket for the price. But do check wear and tear of rexine on the dash as well as door pads. Car of this age most probably have this problem. Rates can vary from 50k to 80k depending on condition and mileage.
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30th May 2010, 14:15	#12
sureshkishore BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: trivandrum Posts: 481 Thanked: 298 Times	Its the Esteem...Almost @Sankar Parking space is not an issue but I need a car that I can feel at peace leaving on the road side. At home I have just about enough space to accommodate the esteem. @anand: I have seen 4 esteems in the 50-60 price range in the last couple of months. The rest were in such a bad shape that I even dropped the idea of esteem as an alternative. But this car totally changed my mind. The car is a gem to drive. MASS helped me with getting the history of the vehicle. All service records with the Dealer. The only other car I was really impressed was the M80096DX. Again immaculate condition with MASS history. Price fixed at 60k. So It is 96 M800 v/s 95 Esteem. 1)Both Cost the Same 60K. 2)Mechanically both are sound. 3)The 800 body appears better than the Esteem. Esteem needs touch-up+polish. 4)The A/c is not that Effective in M800. 5)Value: Esteem used to Sell for twice the price of a 800DX in 1996. 6)Service/Reliability: Both are Maruti . 7)ICE Esteem:Old Gen Pioneer Cassette Player with a 12 CD changer(Must have been the in-thing those days). M800:You would have to sing your fav tune yourself. I am not comparing power, safety,comfort...etc I am almost convinced on the Esteem. As Anand suggested I would surely bargain for the price. But I don't think it would go below 60k. Last edited by sureshkishore : 30th May 2010 at 14:16.
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30th May 2010, 14:49	#15
vjabraham BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Kochi Posts: 66 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	The Esteem sounds like and from the pictures, looks like the sweetest deal! So go ahead and make it yours! All the best with the negotiations!
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