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Originally Posted by JoshMachine How about a relatively less used Hexa AT?
It may tick almost all your boxes, including taking you to jungles (concrete/ the real ones), mountains and what not!
Plus, it is reliable + can take abuse + address your important requirement of "big and bad enough to bother the dirty and rule-breaking neighbors and their misbehaving son's new poop-colored Safari"!
Getting a relatively new/less-used Fortuner may be tricky since owners don't usually depart with such prized possession so early. |
That is a very nice suggestion, especially considering the bangin' stereo and the unmatched ride quality on the Hexa. Handling is acceptable too.
But I think it lacks the outright explosiveness the others on the list have. Somehow just didn't connect with the drive.
You're right, nobody would want to part with their Fortuner that easily
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Originally Posted by shankar.balan Any day New Scorpio N AT 4WD Diesel Z8L
Scorpio N Petrol will drain the pockets.
Alturas is a great vehicle. Very under rated in India.
Used Fortuner and Endeavour 3.2- tempting but I would prefer the new Scorpio. |
Despite the petrol N having drinking habits similar to mine (be it water or otherwise
), still falls into manageable (11 kmpl or more).
However, the 4WD diesel does tick more boxes and a remap after warranty will set things right against the petrol (not that it is even remotely close to slow to being with)
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Originally Posted by GTO As other BHPians have recommended, go brand-new and get yourself the Scorpio-N Diesel AT.
- It's way more user-friendly & comfortable than the Fortuner (heavy steering, bumpy ride).
- The Scorpio-N is vastly improved over the older Scorpio. It's a fantastic SUV.
- Diesel only for your kind of usage. The petrol is a guzzler. I am seeing merely 6 kmpl from the same engine & AT in the city. |
The decision (in my head / with friends / with parents) is 90% for the 4WD, especially once mom got to know that I'd put a loud exhaust on the petrol variant.
The difference between the old and the new one is absolutely night and day. Also, love the way the mHawk is. I've driven like 1200km on it on two 7 day stretches during my yearly visits to costal Karnataka (XUV500 AT).
I just could not stop driving it. Always needed an excuse to leave the hotel. Would just randomly put my finger on the map and shoot.
During the many test drives of the diesel N, I realised the engine is so amazing that I (staunch automatic supporter) could actually live with the manual. Just lift the clutch and you have climbed the parking lot ramp.
mStallion is another story altogether but I need that 800km tank range.
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Originally Posted by Ace F355 Look, I will be quite honest having spent some time with ScorpioN. For the current value - nothing beats it, Z8L D 4x4 should be your first pick. mStallion will kill you every time you go to fuel bunk, so unless your heart is hell bent on that option and you are ready for that slow and sunken feeling every time you go for a tankful, drop it.
Fortuner - I see you are in NCR. 25+ Lakhs for a 3 year use case - you decide. I personally won't touch it as a NCR resident. Cash flow differences at the end of the day would still be relatively negligible (strictly my opinion).
Endeavour - superior vehicle to Fortuner in every sense. Because Ford is gone, meaning you could potentially find sweet deals for the same 2017-2018 cars, practically 5L or lesser in price compared to an equivalent Fortuner. So except for that fear of AT flex plate that you mentioned - an Endeavour at Ford service will be as competitive as Toyota for that matter and I can vouch for it because of my personal experience.
All in all, it's you who would have the pick the final contender. If new it has to be ScorpioN D Z8L 4x4... if used, my recommendation would be an Endeavour, ideally bought directly from an owner. |
Now that I think neutrally about it, you are absolutely right about the Fortuner. Might have made some sense had I were living in the east or the south but that is not the case.
Endeavour still is the hottest BoF vehicle our market has ever seen and it is still up in my lists. Let's see if I can get an impossible deal on a 2017-18 vehicle.
Otherwise all bets are off and Z8L 4WD AT wins by default (it is already leading. Plus, it will be new, I will have warranty)
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Originally Posted by DicKy Looking at how your work is and the lack of daily commute, I would have said go for the petrol ScorpioN. But truth be told, once you get something like a ScorpioN and you have a flexible work-life, the kilometres will rack up and will pinch your pockets. If the usage is like a weekend jaunt or a trip on a whim, okay. But to be on road for majority of time, would have to go for the diesel (good on its own, just that the petrol is faster). That is for the ScorpioN.
Can't really say whether you should go for the ScorpioN or a used Fortuner. Guess depends on your financials. Though IMHO, buying new on loan is far better than buying used on loan. Have lost count of non-enthusiasts calling it so. From the Harrier's Calisto Copper to the Grassland beige to the Jet edition. |
I guess I will rack up kilometers. One of the reasons I skip places is that I didn't want the oil pan or the transmission pan to touch the ground for both the Superb and the Vento.
Yes, the diesel variant makes a lot of sense, especially after seeing videos of people getting really good mileage with 175ps and 400nm. Plus the NVH is top notch as well.
Yeah, I don't think I should take loans for a used car. At all.
On the Safari? I really like it (except the usual anti-AWD/4WD Tata sentiments). It is a grassland beige that the pizza slice-faced rude and misbehaving monkey owns (again, MT because Uttar Pradesh. People here would buy the Big 3 Germans with MT if they could).
His wife keeps stalling the car or keeps blaring punjabi music at max volume while the monkey gets drunk and shouts at his dad. What a fool.
Funny place I live at (considering it is an ex-army residential complex)