[Eco_boost]

Originally Posted by autotranny

Hi All,

I presently own 3 cars, Kia Seltos IVT, 2022 (10k kms), Hyundai Grand i10 Magna AT, 2018 (24k kms) and Hyundai Verna 4S S(O) AT 2015 (66k kms). The Seltos and Verna are in Hyderabad, where I stay and the i10 is at Kerala where my parents stay and I visit often.


What are the other options that I should consider ? Thanks in advance.

1- The best thing would be to selll off both i10 & Verna and buy a capable car of Seltos’s calibre. Selling both of them should get you close to 10 Lakhs? Add another couple of Lacs and you have enough money to buy a new Brezza / GV AT or say a Jimny? If that sounds fun.

2- However, if you must have 2 cars in Hyderabad, then you could swap the i10 with a LXI Brezza MT ( To match your budget) I wouldn’t recommend a second hand vehicle.
Alternatively for under 10L, you could have a look at lower variants of Fronx/ Baleno.
Ignis is a good car which you can have for under 8L with an AMT.

[manofinfinity]

Originally Posted by rajshenoy

Dear BHPians

Help me with this dilemma to keep/swap my cars

Go for option 1 Hycross Hybrid is a city champ and should easily give 15+ kmpl, and its utility is unmatched, you can use it for just about everything.

[rajshenoy]

Originally Posted by manofinfinity

Go for option 1 Hycross Hybrid is a city champ and should easily give 15+ kmpl, and its utility is unmatched, you can use it for just about everything.

Originally Posted by Aakash118

Go for the option 2. Hycross is just too big for city usage and I feel you are not gonna use seven seats too often. Secondly Altis is still a highly capable car and you should hold onto it. You may regret after selling it at a low price. The 15 lacs you will save can be used for it’s replacement after 3-4 years. And lastly, ZS EV is a brilliant package. You will love driving it. It feels just like a perfect car for everyday use.

Originally Posted by aroraanant

If you have to choose between option 1 & 2 then I would anyday recommend option 2.
for option 3 I would like to say that delaying anything is better but till when that the individual only has to decide

Originally Posted by Eco_boost

I think you should go with option 2, but rather than buying the base model of ZS EV, why don’t you look at the top spec Nexon EV (LR) ?

Thank you for the suggestions

ZS EV back seat comfort was a deal breaker for me as there was too much vertical movement on undulating roads(common in our case). As was the case with Atto3. I did not try Nexon/Punch EV as I needed 350+ km real world range.

I have gone ahead with hycross(in exchange for corolla ) as my dealer agreed for a delivery on Auspicious day of Akshaya Tritiya plus gave a good resale value.

After driving 300kms I am very happy with hycross. It is very car like and very easy to manoeuvre inside city(length feels similar to my Corolla)

I guess I will have to wait for a full EV for few more years

[CarguyNish]

Dear BHPians,

Dad drives a 2011 Volkswagen Jetta Diesel. Till date it's really doing well without any major complaints. Car has run 110k kms. Common issues like Waterpump and Headliner were replaced in 2019. Car is still mechanical very good. It feels as good to drive as it was when new. AC isn't as effective as Ford, Toyota, Tata cars but it does the job.

My question is,

Should it be retained/sell since it'll turn 13 years this October and that the car was discontinued in 2018.

One thing is that it's a BS4 Diesel car which one doesn't get these days ans the other thing being you won't get a car like that as replacement at low costs. Cars have really appreciated post covid. I am not keen on replacing it with something like say BMW 3 Series LWB, Mercedes C/E etc.

[self_driven]

Hi everyone

Need advice on whether to retain or let go of our 2014 Swift.

I have recently moved to Chandigarh with my family. We have a Swift and (had) a Seltos in Delhi, and our initial plan was to transfer the cars to Chandigarh RTO as the local police here is notorious for flagging down out-of-state vehicles.

Earlier this month, I got to know that an elderly gentleman in our neighbourhood (in Delhi) was selling his 2017 Endeavour 3.2 at a mouth-watering price. The deal was closed at 14.5 lakh (easily a couple of lakh lower than market price) as the car was nearing 1.4 lakh km on the odometer and needed some cosmetic repairs, along with a new set of tyres, insurance and service. I got the service history cross-checked with Harpreet Ford and received a green signal from them on the car's mechanical condition

The important point is that it is already Chandigarh registered, so we saved a good amount on transfer as well. Meanwhile, a good friend offered 9.5 lakh for my Seltos, so decided to let it go and brought the Endeavour home.

Now the problem is that, after driving the Endeavour over the past few weeks, I don't find the need of a second (smaller) car anymore. Even in city confines, the Endeavour is a lot less intimidating than I had anticipated. My annual running is not much, around 10-12k km, and most of it comes from work-related travel to Delhi. So, the car will see very limited use till the time Endeavour is allowed to ply on Delhi roads (2027).

Parents have retired and taken a break from driving, but they insist on keeping the Swift for another 5 years as backup that I can use during Delhi's diesel ban scenario in winters. Fair enough, but I think I can exchange cars with friends/family accordingly during those times. Transfer cost comes to around 30k, whereas I will get around 2.5-2.8 lakh if I decide to sell it. There are no major expenses or problems in the car, except that the reliability is slightly compromised due to an aftermarket CNG fitment.

I am the only driver. In this situation, is it better to hold on to the Swift for another 5 years OR invest the sale proceeds somewhere to utilise in a future car purchase? Any other suggestions are also welcome. Thanks in advance.

[bijims]

I guess I am a bit too late to provide an answer but considering the age of the swift and the fact that you have a Diesel, the petrol swift should come in handy, so I would suggest you keep hold of it.

[self_driven]

Originally Posted by bijims

I guess I am a bit too late to provide an answer but considering the age of the swift and the fact that you have a Diesel, the petrol swift should come in handy, so I would suggest you keep hold of it.

Thanks dear, but the car is now sold. Found a genuine buyer through OLX in just 24 hours and the deal was done. A lot of people advised me against selling it, but my limited usage meant the car would have stayed idle for a good part of the year. Hence, it didn't make much sense to keep and maintain a second car only to use for 1-2 months in Delhi's peak winter times.

[car_guy1998]

Hello everyone,

We own a 2023 Toyota Innova Hycross Hybrid, which has run 35k Kms in almost an year of ownership and a 2014 Honda City iDTEC, bought used in 2017 when the odo was at 35k Kms and the present odo is 1.87L Kms.

Hycross is our primary ride used by dad on daily basis and mostly chauffeur driven while City iDTEC is being used within city limits and barely sees highways these days as we have Hycross for this and driven by myself and mom. After I moved to US, the City is mostly driven by mom and occasionally by dad whenever mom takes the Hycross along with the chauffeur.

Now the thing is, since I have moved to US last year and with the arrival of Hycross, the City has been seeing less usage. At the time of leaving, the car has run 1.73L Kms and after I came for vacation in the month of May, I've noticed that this car has barely run 9000 Kms after I left and in 2 months of my arrival in India, I've driven it for nearly 5000 Kms till date and now sitting in Honda ASC as the car was suffering from engine oil leakage problem, which got resolved by getting new parts, clutch replacement since the present one has run 1.15L Kms and the bill for replacing these parts came close to a lac, which didn't make sense according to me to spend on a 10 year old car and this would be the last expenditure on this car, to which my dad agreed.

I felt this is the right time to sell this car before I go back to US as it has run close to 2L Kms on the odo and completed 10 years of its age, but with a heavy heart, I had to drop this plan as my parents said a big no in selling this due to economic reasons and with me not being in India at least for an year or two, buying a new car doesn't make sense now according to them. Even my folks too wanted to get rid of the City due to increasing maintenance, but, sadly, had to retain this car for sometime due to the reasons mentioned above. I even lamented on my folks to get rid of it, and even today, doing the same, but, still, they are firm on the decision. They love this car so much even today despite having Hycross at home due to being city friendly, gives no less than 18 Kmpl in city traffic even today (my dad is a person, who always values FE, reliability and safety over anything else and this is one of the reasons why he bought the Hycross Hybrid over other choices last year) though we don't mind letting go of FE as the car will be seeing less usage and rear seat comfort, which we can't get in a new car that we upgrade I guess though we are ok with compromising on this as we have Hycross satisfying this need. One of the main reasons for letting go of this car is I wanted to have another AT at home especially after using our Hycross on daily basis, which made me hate driving the City in the traffic due to being Manual and moreover, the car will be used by mom, who has been driving cars since more than 2 decades and driven only MT cars till date. I persuaded her to drive our Hycross so that she can get used to driving an AT, which she never drove till date and get an AT replacing the City later though she is young enough to drive an MT car even today (her age is 54 btw and has been suffering from leg issues since past few years off late).

But, considering our present usage, having 2 cars at home would suffice for now as I won't be in the country at least for another 2 years. Most of the people I know having at least 3 cars in their garage these days, especially in the gated community we are staying now.

Also, in last 2 years, with the intention of retaining this car for another 2-3 years as we had sold off the OG Innova during that time in 2022, we have spent nearly Rs.4L by getting the whole car repainted at the ASC itself, overhauling the suspension, getting a fresh set of tyres that has run 30k Kms till date and now, getting the timing kit replaced along with new set of clutch and radiator. The money we spent on this car till date is the resale value of this car if I sell it off now. All the services and replacements done till date have been done in Honda ASC itself.

Even after the car has seen some heavy and rough usage, it has bore the brunt well.

We usually sell off our cars within 5 years of ownership or less but I never thought that we'd be retaining this car for more than 5 years, which is quite surprising for me as we had a 1987 Maruti 800, which we had bought used during my birth in 1998 and served as a beater for 13 years before going for scrap. Later, my folks also felt that selling a car within 5 years or below doesn't make sense unless it suffers from niggles or problems and spending on a new car is a waste of money according to them as it is a depreciating asset.

Now, I have two plans. Sell off the City and get an EV or Petrol AT within 25L next year or retain the City even if we get a new car to serve as a spare car or 3rd car whenever any of our cars goes for major repair work or service.

Kindly help me in solving this conundrum.

Thank you

[bijims]

Originally Posted by car_guy1998

Hello everyone,

We own a 2023 Toyota Innova Hycross Hybrid, which has run 35k Kms in almost an year of ownership and a 2014 Honda City iDTEC, bought used in 2017 when the odo was at 35k Kms and the present odo is 1.87L Kms.

Now, I have two plans. Sell off the City and get an EV or Petrol AT within 25L next year or retain the City even if we get a new car to serve as a spare car or 3rd car whenever any of our cars goes for major repair work or service.

Kindly help me in solving this conundrum.

Thank you

Isn't 3 cars overkill unless all 3 of you are in town and need vehicles at the same time or unless one of the cars is in the workshop? Moreover, how much do you think the 2014 City would sell for, if the amount is paltry, then there is no use in selling it unless you expect more repair and maintenance.

Now because you have done a major repair/maintenance recently, I would expect the car to do fine without any issues for the foreseeable future considering it is a Honda, so that should let you hold on to it for longer.

Now when considering a third car, I would recommend an SUV as your City is a sedan and the Hycross is an MUV, and the SUV segment is loaded right now with a variety of options so that you could choose one according to your priorities.

Else, if you intend to replace the City with another sedan, then I would recommend the Hyundai Verna, the top-end SX(O) 1.5 Petrol DCT is loaded and comes at around 21 lakhs OTR Hyderabad.

[car_guy1998]

Originally Posted by bijims

Isn't 3 cars overkill unless all 3 of you are in town and need vehicles at the same time or unless one of the cars is in the workshop? Moreover, how much do you think the 2014 City would sell for, if the amount is paltry, then there is no use in selling it unless you expect more repair and maintenance.

Now because you have done a major repair/maintenance recently, I would expect the car to do fine without any issues for the foreseeable future considering it is a Honda, so that should let you hold on to it for longer.

Now when considering a third car, I would recommend an SUV as your City is a sedan and the Hycross is an MUV, and the SUV segment is loaded right now with a variety of options so that you could choose one according to your priorities.

Else, if you intend to replace the City with another sedan, then I would recommend the Hyundai Verna, the top-end SX(O) 1.5 Petrol DCT is loaded and comes at around 21 lakhs OTR Hyderabad.

Coming to the resale of my City, I'm hoping that I can get around 4-4.5L if I sell it off now and considering the work I got now.

Yes, being a Honda, I can keep this car for sometime even if we add another car into the garage as a spare car and still gives no less than 18 Kmpl in city traffic despite being a 10 year old car and run close to 2L Kms on the odo.

SUV is obviously an option though don't mind having a sedan as my mom prefers sedans (so I'm) due to the driving pleasure it offers. Why compact SUVs or crossovers coz of the ground clearance as we travel on bad roads most of the time. We are confused whether we should get Diesel or Petrol or EV though AT is mandatory as we got tired of driving MT now especially after getting used to the Hycross in city traffic.

I'd really love to get a Seltos/Creta as it will be manageable to drive in city traffic for mom. But, confused whether I should get Diesel AT or Petrol IVT or DCT as I adore the Diesel AT of the Koreans due to the engine+GB combo it offers and efficient but at the same time BS6 Diesel issues has been a gripe for me considering that we'd be having less usage though I haven't driven the 1.5 Turbo DCT of Seltos/Creta yet though I've driven Verna with the same powertrain. We were supposed to get a Seltos D AT in 2022 to complement along with our City, but backed off due to personal reasons and during the same time, dad wanted more bigger car (read 7 seater) than the Seltos as he got used to the Innova that we owned previously. I hope someday I'd get the Seltos as its my favourite 4M+ C-SUV and I liked it more than the Taigun that I had for a brief period of time.

Also, never owned a Korean car till date and I always wanted to have one in our garage, which never happened during our purchases. To go by the history, we bought brand new Swift VDI over brand new OG Verna 1.5 CRDI in 2010, then again used 2012 Vento 1.6 TDI MT over brand new Fluidic Verna 1.6 CRDI MT in 2013, used OG 2011 Innova over brand new Creta 1.6 D MT/AT in 2016, used 2014 Honda City iDTEC over brand new Verna 1.6 D AT and Creta 1.6 D AT in 2017 and, finally, brand new Hycross Hybrid over Seltos/Creta D AT last year.

Even a Thar would be a good choice to complement along with the Hycross as I and dad always wanted to have one in the garage but mom is against getting a Thar due to its seating though I hope driving a Thar once would be easier for her to potter around the city due to its dimensions.

But, according to dad, one should have the Thar when he/she owns another 2 cars and can be considered as a 3rd car at home. But, still, I still dream of having a Thar in our garage even if I move out of country.

Another plan that I had suggested my dad is to get the Thar AT and let mom be chauffeured in the Hycross whenever she goes out for shopping or trip so that dad can enjoy driving the Thar.

Even if we get the Thar, still we will have to retain the City as the beater or spare car.

Coming to sedans, yes, Verna is one of the options and as I mentioned above, I've driven the Verna Turbo DCT as well as MT during its launch last year and I came impressed with the performance it offered. Also, driven IVT variant owned by a friend and felt smooth to drive and suitable for city driving but, for me, DCT takes the cake any day. Considering the Virtus as well but concerned with DSG issues (same applies for Koreans DCT as well) and moreover, FE is the main concern with VAGs as I had Taigun 1L TSI MT for a brief period of time and barely returned 10 Kmpl even if I drove sedately. But, any day, I'd prefer Virtus over Verna in terms of looks.

[bijims]

Originally Posted by car_guy1998

Coming to the resale of my City, I'm hoping that I can get around 4-4.5L if I sell it off now and considering the work I got now.

Yes, being a Honda, I can keep this car for sometime even if we add another car into the garage as a spare car and still gives no less than 18 Kmpl in city traffic despite being a 10 year old car and run close to 2L Kms on the odo.

SUV is obviously an option though don't mind having a sedan as my mom prefers sedans (so I'm) due to the driving pleasure it offers.

You have thought of it quite well, and if you are considering the Thar, get the 5-door which launches on August 15th, it should offer better convenience. As regards the Korean models, we have a dozen in our family and a couple in our garage, the Sonet and the Seltos, the Seltos is the GTX+ Diesel AT and it offers better mileage over the Petrol DCT any day but with performance it's no match to the Turbo DCT, We took multiple test drives of both and finalized on the Diesel AT as we were not craving for the performance at the cost of fuel economy.

We had decided this was going to be our last ICE car purchase at home and would be moving to an EV in a few year.

[paradhak]

I have been a passive user of Team-bhp for a decade. Team-bhp is a great resource and have always found threads with info that I am looking for - whether it be vacation, electronics purchase, which route to take, general reading and of course car related stuff. But now, Iam in dilemma regarding a car purchase where I cannot find a matching thread.

I live in Bangalore and currently own a 2015 model (Gen IV) Honda City automatic which has done 55k. I stay close to work (round trip 4km) and do occasional long drives (twice or thrice 1k round trip annually). Family includes my wife, mother and 2 sons. My elder son's hobby classes have been increasing of late. Have employed a driver who takes him for his trainings thrice in a week and I am the Dad-uber on weekends.

On weekdays when the car is used by family, I take my scooter to work. Has not been a big hassle given that it is a small commute. But last month I had a fall. Iam a slow and careful rider, but the combination of rain and potholes finally had me grounded. A bit of jarring on the right knee, the doc advised a month's rest which has concluded. Knee is feeling better, but somehow I am not feeling like taking a two-wheeler to work any more.

With this background let me pose my predicament. I am contemplating buying a second car. Which car to buy?

>>Petrol vs EV - Setting up a home charger is difficult in my apartment and EV does not become attractive from a running costs perspective as the running itself is limited. Hence it will be a petrol car.

>>Sedan vs SUV - My mother is finding getting in and out of the Honda City troublesome. She finds SUV/Crossover more comfortable.

>>Manual vs Automatic - My wife keeps threatening me that one day she will learn and start driving. For that eventuality, I will buy an automatic.

>>Used vs New - I neither have the ability to hunt and nor the luck(past track record) to get a good used car. So it will be a new car.

Which Petrol Automatic SUV?

1. Audi Q3 - Why not? There might be some push back from the family on the price, but I can get them convinced. Q3 can be my drive, and the Honda city can be used by the family. Q3 being more of a cross-over, would be ideal within the city. Rear seat space is not the best. Badge appeal is also a factor.
But the larger question in my mind is that I might feel unhappy with it and regret that I did not buy one of Q5/GLC/X3. I do believe I will be happy with those cars, but currently they are out of my budget. God willing, they will be within budget in a few years.

2. XUV 3XO - It is a smaller/cheaper car and will suit my requirement. It can be driven by the driver and I use the Honda City. If I buy a top-end model at 20L I save 40L for the eventual purchase of GLC/3 series/5 series whenever. Can also consider the AX5 model, which will help save a few more lakhs.

3. Toyota Hyrider - I am OK with the 25L budget. What is not OK are the looks. The rounded finishes of Hyrider do not appeal to me. Like with 3XO, the family can use the Hyrider and me being content with Honda City. Excellent mileage is a bonus. Bigger, better car. 2 years down the line, the Honda City can be sold and 3series/5 series bought.

4. Skoda Kodiaq - A practical option. Family gets the Honda City and I use the Kodiaq as a daily driver. 2 years down the line, the City can be sold and buy a car as per the needs then. Two cons for Kodiaq: 4-6kmpl mileage is too low + the new Kodiaq launch expected next year.

My inner voice of practicality keeps asking "Why don't you wait, continue with the City and ride scooter to office for a couple of years and then upgrade? At 4km, it is actually walkable. You are over reacting to a minor fall"
The countering thought follows "It indeed is walkable - But not at 10am, the time I go to work. The streets are crowded, unsafe for pedestrians and I reach office covered in a layer of dust. You only live once. Buy a second car"

To sum it. I am confused and all over the place with options. This is becoming a needless botheration for my otherwise carefree mind.

I hope this is how the thought system works for others as well. Guidance will be appreciated.

[Neeru]

Originally Posted by paradhak

The countering thought follows "It indeed is walkable - But not at 10am, the time I go to work. The streets are crowded, unsafe for pedestrians and I reach office covered in a layer of dust. You only live once. Buy a second car"

Go ahead and buy the Audi Q3 if you want the prestige value. You will love the car but your family wont since the rear is a little cramped (Large transmission tunnel) and the ride is a bit stiff so take a test drive along with them and see if they are comfortable.

I would recommend you to consider 3XO petrol Automatic or Kushaq/Taigun since you don't require a 7 seater. These cars are practical and safe enough to be taken across India and you will love to drive the 1.5 DSG Kushaq/Taigun. These cars will give you a wide grin whenever you floor the pedal to the metal and wont burn a hole in your pocket with good mileage.

Take test drive of all the cars along with your family I'm sure you and your family can make a better decision.

[paradhak]

Originally Posted by Neeru

I would recommend you to consider 3XO petrol Automatic or Kushaq/Taigun since you don't require a 7 seater.

Thanks for your views. I was following Kushaq at the time of launch but widespread EPC issues took that off the radar. But I think that has been sorted out and have not heard any such issues of late. Kushaq 1.5L can be a good option. As it is a 2nd car, I can still probably manage some of its downtime.

[crn12]

Originally Posted by paradhak

I
My inner voice of practicality keeps asking "Why don't you wait, continue with the City and ride scooter to office for a couple of years and then upgrade? At 4km, it is actually walkable. You are over reacting to a minor fall"
The countering thought follows "It indeed is walkable - But not at 10am, the time I go to work. The streets are crowded, unsafe for pedestrians and I reach office covered in a layer of dust. You only live once. Buy a second car"

To sum it. I am confused and all over the place with options. This is becoming a needless botheration for my otherwise carefree mind.

I hope this is how the thought system works for others as well. Guidance will be appreciated.

I personally think you should walk to office. It's bad here, I know, but we have too many cars in Bangalore and very few people walking!
If I had the privilege, I would have walked to office every day! If you don't require/need a car, don't buy.