Vintage & Classic Mercedes Benz Cars in India

vcash · 13th March 2009, 14:55

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

What a find, lucky you.

That last book looks really interesting, Karl Benz und Gottlieb Daimler. How large is it, can you share a scan with us? And while you're at it, the 600 as well

Scanning the 600 owner manual may be a bit too intensive, but I will put up scans of the historical literature. Be forewarned - it is in German so we will need lingustics gurus to translate this.

V-16 · 13th March 2009, 15:20

Great find Vikash. Please keep them in your safe as this is is a prize find.

the mole · 13th March 2009, 23:50

600 hundred manual wow!! put me down for a copy of the scans dude. 600 is my dream car, hope i dont have to grow to a iddy amin size to own one one day

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Even the 219 manual is very rare, so are 219's they were far less produced than the 220S which are more common, and therefore more valuable IMHO than the 220S. We have a very nice 219 in our MB club.

harit · 14th March 2009, 11:19

These Mercedes manuals are great help when restoring your car. But there is one problem. These manuals were periodically updated, and the last date of updating is always mentioned in these manuals. Now I need parts for my 114, checked the manual, asked for the part, and the reply: these parts have been replaced/updated a number of times, each change means a new part no. Finally I just scanned the page of the part required and the guy will search at his end. These manuals are useful, it is just that you may not get a part of the shelf by quoting the part number in your outdated manual.

If the German historical literature is sent to me, I will translate within a few days.

vcash · 14th March 2009, 20:16

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Originally Posted by V-16

Great find Vikash. Please keep them in your safe as this is is a prize find.

Will do buddy!

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Originally Posted by scooby05

vcash- If I remember right Telco was requisitioned at one time 1980 to work/service on the GOI Presidents 600, maybe thats why they had this manual.

That would be really special, if it were true. I will do some digging on this, however I am told that the gentleman at Tata Motors was trained to maintain the groups Mercs. This includes Mr. Modi's 219.

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Originally Posted by the mole

600 hundred manual wow!! put me down for a copy of the scans dude. 600 is my dream car, hope i dont have to grow to a iddy amin size to own one one day

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Even the 219 manual is very rare, so are 219's they were far less produced than the 220S which are more common, and therefore more valuable IMHO than the 220S. We have a very nice 219 in our MB club.

Tell me about it - If I could trade up my 190, it would be for a 600! And I regret the fact that we could not pick up the 219 for the change it was offered. I can only hope that other opportunities come up in the future.

V-16 · 14th March 2009, 20:19

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Originally Posted by harit

If the German historical literature is sent to me, I will translate within a few days.

Achtung Herr Harit!!

sunilgee · 14th March 2009, 22:49

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Originally Posted by LOVE HER(ALD)!

Hi Suniljee,

Are any of the Mercs in this compound for sale? I intend to get one and restore it for myself.

Vikas

Hai Vikas,
sorry for the delayed reply.Of the cars in the compound the fintail pictured here is for sale, its been overcoated in the original colours.I can vouch its in excellent condition and excellent paint job.Also must be one of the most original African delivery cars in the country with period extras.The 'after pictures' can be found on this thread.
Cheers,
S.G.

wasif · 15th March 2009, 10:15

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Originally Posted by vcash

Will do buddy!

Tell me about it - If I could trade up my 190, it would be for a 600! And I regret the fact that we could not pick up the 219 for the change it was offered. I can only hope that other opportunities come up in the future.

The Mercedes dealer in Abu Dhabi is a very old company called Emirates Motor Company. They were telling me about the time in the sixties when they were thinking of taking the dealership. Their person visited Daimler Benz for discussions on this and while leaving ordered 13 600 Pullmans, paying cash in advance of delivery.

The company delivered the cars and then sent a rep to check who had ordered these esxpensive cars.

The cars were distributed to members of the ruling family. They were fitted with baloon tyres to drive on the sands as there were no roads here at that time.

Out of the 13 cars two are known to survive as of today.

crazybiker46 · 16th March 2009, 13:06

Mercedes Benz Ponton W180

I have posted this car in some other thread,but i think this car definitely needs to be in this thread,belongs to Travancore royal family.still its used by current Maharaja Uthradam Thirunal(not in rule ofcourse he he).He used to drive it alone to Banglore frequently during his young days.It has clocked more than 60000 miles which is shown in grille.

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harit · 16th March 2009, 13:59

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Originally Posted by crazybiker46

Mercedes Benz Ponton W180

I have posted this car in some other thread,but i think this car definitely needs to be in this thread,belongs to Travancore royal family.still its used by current Maharaja Uthradam Thirunal(not in rule ofcourse he he).He used to drive it alone to Banglore frequently during his young days.It has clocked more than 60000 miles which is shown in grille.

Nice Merc. BTW, for every 10000 miles driven, does he add a badge on the radiator grill? It does not look nice and later when more are added will block the airflow for cooling.

hillram · 16th March 2009, 14:04

Very nice mercedes and 60000 miles on a Merc is not too great adistance i must say

crazybiker46 · 16th March 2009, 21:10

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Originally Posted by harit

Nice Merc. BTW, for every 10000 miles driven, does he add a badge on the radiator grill? It does not look nice and later when more are added will block the airflow for cooling.

what i said was more than 60000 miles which is shown in grille,don't know how much it has clocked now.so i think no more logos will be put in grille.

karlosdeville · 17th March 2009, 09:51

Im sure all of you are missing a zero, and mean a badge for every 100,000 miles. These sort of badges are very coveted in the classic VW circle.

wasif · 17th March 2009, 10:25

The badges were added on the grille for every 100,000 miles the car has covered,that is when the speedo has completed one full cycle and come back to zero.

This means that the car has completed 600,000 miles, six full cycles of the speedo.This would be close to 1,000,000 KM.

This is a lot of miles for a car of any make and going by the looks it has been well looked after.

Karl

Why are these badges coveted by the VW circle. They are obviously MB badges and not connected with the VW marque.

karlosdeville · 17th March 2009, 10:27

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Originally Posted by wasif

Karl

Why are these badges coveted by the VW circle. They are obviously MB badges and not connected with the VW marque.

I am of course talking about 100,000 mile badges made for VWs, not Mercedes.

13th March 2009, 15:20	#242
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 950 Times View My Garage	Great find Vikash. Please keep them in your safe as this is is a prize find.
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13th March 2009, 23:50	#243
the mole Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,189 Thanked: 825 Times View My Garage	600 hundred manual wow!! put me down for a copy of the scans dude. 600 is my dream car, hope i dont have to grow to a iddy amin size to own one one day. Even the 219 manual is very rare, so are 219's they were far less produced than the 220S which are more common, and therefore more valuable IMHO than the 220S. We have a very nice 219 in our MB club.
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14th March 2009, 11:19	#244
harit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,035 Thanked: 3,294 Times	These Mercedes manuals are great help when restoring your car. But there is one problem. These manuals were periodically updated, and the last date of updating is always mentioned in these manuals. Now I need parts for my 114, checked the manual, asked for the part, and the reply: these parts have been replaced/updated a number of times, each change means a new part no. Finally I just scanned the page of the part required and the guy will search at his end. These manuals are useful, it is just that you may not get a part of the shelf by quoting the part number in your outdated manual. If the German historical literature is sent to me, I will translate within a few days.
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16th March 2009, 13:06	#249
crazybiker46 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: TRV-DXB Posts: 605 Thanked: 404 Times View My Garage	Ponton W180 Mercedes Benz Ponton W180 I have posted this car in some other thread,but i think this car definitely needs to be in this thread,belongs to Travancore royal family.still its used by current Maharaja Uthradam Thirunal(not in rule ofcourse he he).He used to drive it alone to Banglore frequently during his young days.It has clocked more than 60000 miles which is shown in grille.
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16th March 2009, 14:04	#251
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	Very nice mercedes and 60000 miles on a Merc is not too great adistance i must say
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17th March 2009, 09:51	#253
karlosdeville Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 12,017 Thanked: 18,374 Times View My Garage	Im sure all of you are missing a zero, and mean a badge for every 100,000 miles. These sort of badges are very coveted in the classic VW circle.
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17th March 2009, 10:25	#254
wasif Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Abu Dhabi (for now) Posts: 2,957 Thanked: 414 Times	The badges were added on the grille for every 100,000 miles the car has covered,that is when the speedo has completed one full cycle and come back to zero. This means that the car has completed 600,000 miles, six full cycles of the speedo.This would be close to 1,000,000 KM. This is a lot of miles for a car of any make and going by the looks it has been well looked after. Karl Why are these badges coveted by the VW circle. They are obviously MB badges and not connected with the VW marque.
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