Standard cars in India

karlosdeville · 8th November 2007, 18:57

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Originally Posted by Mpower

If you register again do you get a period plate or a new one. Part of the charm of an old car is the old number. Something like a MH-01 just would'nt look appropriate.

Absolutely. Ruins the whole appearence of the car. A new registration would positively involve a new number. I believe up north you could switch numbers, but Im also told its stopped now.

At the same time you will also see many cars sporting new period numbers, but thats just illegal

. Buy the registration books of another (usually scrapped car), and transfer the numbers.

Stanher · 8th November 2007, 19:02

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Originally Posted by Stanher

Sad but true!

Aw man I hope not!! Anyways, he told us to come there again after 3....so leaving now....will give a call to behram uncle when I'm there....ciao!

Well as I was about to leave my mech. met me & said he got a call from the guy who said he's busy today so asked us to come tomorrow morning....he says that if we (as in me

) intend to pick up the car he'd get us the papers (still not sure if xerox or original) if we gave him an advance (on the amount for the papers, not the car).....hmm.......lets see what happens next.....

PS- sorry forgot to mention- I couldnt take pics. of the engine bay or more as I'd forgotten to take along my camera (d-uhhhh!!) yesterday!

Also one more thing bout this previous post of mine:

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And it also turns out he has found out bout the papers being available.....Now the bad news is he wants a further 2k for getting the papers.....He's also still adamant on the price of the car but I can say that he'd come down by 1-1.5k if we are firm on that.

The "he" I referred to here was the scrapwala, not my mechanic.......just in case it caused some confusion!

Stanher · 8th November 2007, 19:05

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

At the same time you will also see many cars sporting new period numbers, but thats just illegal

. Buy the registration books of another (usually scrapped car), and transfer the numbers.

Yeah I do see a couple of newer fiats here sporting numbers way too old! (lucky them!

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speedy · 8th November 2007, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

If you register again do you get a period plate or a new one. Part of the charm of an old car is the old number. Something like a MH-01 just would'nt look appropriate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Absolutely. Ruins the whole appearence of the car. A new registration would positively involve a new number. I believe up north you could switch numbers, but Im also told its stopped now.

At the same time you will also see many cars sporting new period numbers, but thats just illegal

. Buy the registration books of another (usually scrapped car), and transfer the numbers.

. when you reregister you get new plates. it spoils the show of the car for sure but you have no choice if you want to see your baby run on the streets.

@ karl this happens mainly in delhi where it was allowed till some time back. that is the procedure still followed by some car collectors. taking the registration books of another scrapped car and transfering it to their car. changeing plates and all.

Stanher · 10th November 2007, 20:39

Well, an update on the pennant.....went to see it again yesterday....actually had also gone to take pics. of the engine bay this time but unfortunately its been pushed forward in line to make space for other cars, ended up being pushed up against the rear of a fiat in front of it & me & my mech. both couldnt push it back together! It sure feels heavy for a small car......also could be becasue the front tyre is nearly flat!

'turns out the owner has a xerox of the papers only....but the good thing is the guy agreed to take us there to meet him in person on monday so we could discuss whatever formalities are required..

Btw, here's a really must-see site for all Herald lovers......its got even period videos of the Herald plus a really cool Herald race game!

Triumph Herald 948 Directory

karlosdeville · 10th November 2007, 23:14

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Originally Posted by Stanher

Well, an update on the pennant.....went to see it again yesterday....actually had also gone to take pics. of the engine bay this time but unfortunately its been pushed forward in line to make space for other cars, ended up being pushed up against the rear of a fiat in front of it & me & my mech. both couldnt push it back together! It sure feels heavy for a small car......also could be becasue the front tyre is nearly flat!

Well, there have been 2 occassions when Ive pushed my car a fair distance to the side of the road alone. (Blame it on a busted head gasket). While it is heavy, its nothing much more than any other car of its time.

Mpower · 11th November 2007, 00:51

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Originally Posted by Stanher

It sure feels heavy for a small car......also could be becasue the front tyre is nearly flat!

Could be that the wheel bearings are all rusted and busted else the brakes could be a little jammed up. Common after sitting for years.

speedy · 11th November 2007, 03:50

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Originally Posted by Stanher

me & my mech. both couldnt push it back together! It sure feels heavy for a small car......also could be becasue the front tyre is nearly flat!

many a times i have been through it. a small car like the consul also feels like you are pushing a truck with a flat tyre. most of the cars that have come to us for work and had flat tyres have to be pushed by 6 to 8 people.

Stanher · 13th November 2007, 23:40

Well guys, the lastest news on the penant....I guess I'd better let out a little secret here- I've had a plan B of buying the car myself in case Behram uncle didnt seem too keen on it....so as it turned out I became keen on it....as I said we were supposed to go with the guy to meet the owner of the car on monday (yesterday), then postponed to today but didnt materialise.....so kept it for tomorrow.....then jus thought of going down to the scrapyard to see the car before we left....only to be shocked at its present state!!

I first couldnt believe my eyes! How dare anyone do this!

Although my mechanic, examining the glass pieces said they both could've even shattered with air filling up inside the car & having no chance of getting out if all the glasses had been shut, thus causing one or more (not necessarily all) of the panes to explode..he said the same kinda thing had happened once when he'd rolled up all the glasses of a M800....

Well, anyways, this has been really disheartening for me! I was told (by someone else) it wouldnt be possible to cut & fit glass for the rear windsreen as it is a curved glass but then they did do that to the front windscreen of my fiat select, which is curved as well & had to be cut around the edges to fit properly...

We immediately notified the scrapguy bout this & if I buy the car (which is based on seeing the state of the RC tomorrow) I intend to make it very clear to him that he'd have to give a discount on the broken glasses!
But first I've a question & would like some advice- given that the above conditions are satisfied is it still worth it to go for this car??
In my heart I feel it'd be silly to give up on it (in which case it'd be scrapped) judging it by a couple of broken glasses! Still, I feel I should give it a thought one more time tonight....do let me know what yall think...

the mole · 14th November 2007, 22:54

stanher...best of luck trying to fix new glasses...but not totally impossible..its possible to have new glasses made but will cost about 15,000 each for the front and rear windshield.

there are people in bombay who make replacement glasses..especially for that size

Stanher · 14th November 2007, 23:10

Well, a further update, no progress with the RC as yet.....the guy called us to say that he had gone there alone (ie. without us but presumably with the dealer involved) to meet the owner today....only to miss meeting him as the latter had gone out then!
He said he'd be taking me also tomorrow to meet the owner directly....

speedy · 15th November 2007, 02:03

hey stanher thats real sad to see. i dont think the glass would break with the heat, shatter yes. but if you also take into consideration that the car had gone for the shoot might have added to the damage. there is also a possibility of a prankster who might have broken the shattered glass. the glass would burst outward not into the car (just my two bits) and that too on the navigator seat.might be wrong on this. the packard due to it being stored (almost 10yrs) before i got it and the glasses being rolled up had some windows shattered (cracks) not broken.

you can replicate curved glass but it is difficult. there are very few people who can make it. the side window glasses i presume are straight glass and can be made easily. the scrapper should give you a discount in the price due to the damage, but you never know. if he scraps it he will still make his money. do try to convince him. it would be silly to let go of the car due to the glasses, but sometimes you cant help it.

please do go to meet the owner and i hope this time he takes you. it would clear your mind too and you could also check if the owner has some spares or manuals of the car with him.

Stanher · 15th November 2007, 09:41

Speedy, mole: Yeah curved glass ios very very difficult to fabricate...but I happen to have the rear glass of an old fiat (select) which for some strange reason didnt fit my car when I wanted to fit it in place of the original one it cmae with.....so I can try & cut this one to fit on the pennant.....the rubber beading I guess can be fabricated (it was done for our Gazel's rear glass when an original beading couldnt be sourced)....
Well first things first, lets see what is the situation on the papers..

Stanher · 17th November 2007, 20:56

Well guys, I've got the latest news although IMHO not that good....the guy told me that he has it confirmed from the owner that there are NO papers for the car anywhere, not even xerox it turns out......so he said he's going to break it & we can take whatever parts we want from it....I'd already given him a list of most of the parts (inc. all 4 doors, bootlid, bonnet, seats etc.) yesterday....am planning to take even the curvy rear mudguards on either side...somehow I feel they are worth picking up...
We were supposed to go there today but my mech. wasnt free & I too had a problem with my scooter breaking down.....so we told him we'll be going down tomorrow....
Sigh.......there goes another one......!

JayD · 17th November 2007, 21:06

that's real sad news indeed stanher. But atleast u tried your best to save her! Atleast she'll be able to give life to some other car as a parts car. Karl are u going to get stuff from there for your car?

10th November 2007, 20:39	#185
Stanher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,091 Times View My Garage	Well, an update on the pennant.....went to see it again yesterday....actually had also gone to take pics. of the engine bay this time but unfortunately its been pushed forward in line to make space for other cars, ended up being pushed up against the rear of a fiat in front of it & me & my mech. both couldnt push it back together! It sure feels heavy for a small car......also could be becasue the front tyre is nearly flat! 'turns out the owner has a xerox of the papers only....but the good thing is the guy agreed to take us there to meet him in person on monday so we could discuss whatever formalities are required.. Btw, here's a really must-see site for all Herald lovers......its got even period videos of the Herald plus a really cool Herald race game! Triumph Herald 948 Directory
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13th November 2007, 23:40	#189
Stanher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,091 Times View My Garage	Well guys, the lastest news on the penant....I guess I'd better let out a little secret here- I've had a plan B of buying the car myself in case Behram uncle didnt seem too keen on it....so as it turned out I became keen on it....as I said we were supposed to go with the guy to meet the owner of the car on monday (yesterday), then postponed to today but didnt materialise.....so kept it for tomorrow.....then jus thought of going down to the scrapyard to see the car before we left....only to be shocked at its present state!! I first couldnt believe my eyes! How dare anyone do this! Although my mechanic, examining the glass pieces said they both could've even shattered with air filling up inside the car & having no chance of getting out if all the glasses had been shut, thus causing one or more (not necessarily all) of the panes to explode..he said the same kinda thing had happened once when he'd rolled up all the glasses of a M800.... Well, anyways, this has been really disheartening for me! I was told (by someone else) it wouldnt be possible to cut & fit glass for the rear windsreen as it is a curved glass but then they did do that to the front windscreen of my fiat select, which is curved as well & had to be cut around the edges to fit properly... We immediately notified the scrapguy bout this & if I buy the car (which is based on seeing the state of the RC tomorrow) I intend to make it very clear to him that he'd have to give a discount on the broken glasses! But first I've a question & would like some advice- given that the above conditions are satisfied is it still worth it to go for this car?? In my heart I feel it'd be silly to give up on it (in which case it'd be scrapped) judging it by a couple of broken glasses! Still, I feel I should give it a thought one more time tonight....do let me know what yall think...
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14th November 2007, 22:54	#190
the mole Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,190 Thanked: 827 Times View My Garage	stanher...best of luck trying to fix new glasses...but not totally impossible..its possible to have new glasses made but will cost about 15,000 each for the front and rear windshield. there are people in bombay who make replacement glasses..especially for that size
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14th November 2007, 23:10	#191
Stanher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,091 Times View My Garage	Well, a further update, no progress with the RC as yet.....the guy called us to say that he had gone there alone (ie. without us but presumably with the dealer involved) to meet the owner today....only to miss meeting him as the latter had gone out then! He said he'd be taking me also tomorrow to meet the owner directly....
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15th November 2007, 02:03	#192
speedy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Meri Jaan Posts: 6,197 Thanked: 1,025 Times View My Garage	hey stanher thats real sad to see. i dont think the glass would break with the heat, shatter yes. but if you also take into consideration that the car had gone for the shoot might have added to the damage. there is also a possibility of a prankster who might have broken the shattered glass. the glass would burst outward not into the car (just my two bits) and that too on the navigator seat.might be wrong on this. the packard due to it being stored (almost 10yrs) before i got it and the glasses being rolled up had some windows shattered (cracks) not broken. you can replicate curved glass but it is difficult. there are very few people who can make it. the side window glasses i presume are straight glass and can be made easily. the scrapper should give you a discount in the price due to the damage, but you never know. if he scraps it he will still make his money. do try to convince him. it would be silly to let go of the car due to the glasses, but sometimes you cant help it. please do go to meet the owner and i hope this time he takes you. it would clear your mind too and you could also check if the owner has some spares or manuals of the car with him. Last edited by speedy : 15th November 2007 at 02:06.
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15th November 2007, 09:41	#193
Stanher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,091 Times View My Garage	Speedy, mole: Yeah curved glass ios very very difficult to fabricate...but I happen to have the rear glass of an old fiat (select) which for some strange reason didnt fit my car when I wanted to fit it in place of the original one it cmae with.....so I can try & cut this one to fit on the pennant.....the rubber beading I guess can be fabricated (it was done for our Gazel's rear glass when an original beading couldnt be sourced).... Well first things first, lets see what is the situation on the papers..
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17th November 2007, 20:56	#194
Stanher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,091 Times View My Garage	Well guys, I've got the latest news although IMHO not that good....the guy told me that he has it confirmed from the owner that there are NO papers for the car anywhere, not even xerox it turns out......so he said he's going to break it & we can take whatever parts we want from it....I'd already given him a list of most of the parts (inc. all 4 doors, bootlid, bonnet, seats etc.) yesterday....am planning to take even the curvy rear mudguards on either side...somehow I feel they are worth picking up... We were supposed to go there today but my mech. wasnt free & I too had a problem with my scooter breaking down.....so we told him we'll be going down tomorrow.... Sigh.......there goes another one......!
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17th November 2007, 21:06	#195
JayD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cochin! At last Posts: 3,237 Thanked: 2,572 Times View My Garage	that's real sad news indeed stanher. But atleast u tried your best to save her! Atleast she'll be able to give life to some other car as a parts car. Karl are u going to get stuff from there for your car?
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