[srinand]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

A Phase 1 Vanguard is seen in Bangalore here

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/...cle3328318.ece

Hi Karl,

This car belongs to Mr.Y.M.N.Murthy, a very well known humorist, he is the brother of the person featured in the picture and was seen driving it around quite often till a couple of years ago, now in his late eighties, he says he cant drive it around with the traffic, but still drives a smaller car himself. This car is still cleaned and started regularly. The man is extremely fond of this car and his passion shows in the way it is still maintained.

Regards,

Srinand.

[C.S.ANANTH]

A good 1963 Standard herald, convertible, with the hard roof available, seen 2 owners, all documents up to date, might come up for sale. The owner being passionate, still undecided. Interested? PM me

[ajay99]

Originally Posted by C.S.ANANTH

A good 1963 Standard herald, convertible, with the hard roof available, seen 2 owners, all documents up to date, might come up for sale. The owner being passionate, still undecided. Interested? PM me

to the best of my knowledge there was never a convertible version of the standard herald in INDIA,please correct me if my info is wrong

[C.S.ANANTH]

Originally Posted by ajay99

to the best of my knowledge there was never a convertible version of the standard herald in INDIA,please correct me if my info is wrong

Standard motors did supply a few convertibles against orders

[Stanher]

Originally Posted by C.S.ANANTH

A good 1963 Standard herald, convertible, with the hard roof available,

Originally Posted by ajay99

to the best of my knowledge there was never a convertible version of the standard herald in INDIA,please correct me if my info is wrong

Originally Posted by C.S.ANANTH

Standard motors did supply a few convertibles against orders

Yes, I agree that a few were made to order- probably for 'special' customers, and directly supplied from the factory too maybe. But there would have been very few all in all I'm sure, though no idea of the exact number. I've seen one such 'properly' made convertible, an early Herald, in this popular 60s Tamil movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D22Te3yaOcs

I've been wondering if you or anyone from Madras have any info. on this car's present status?

However, the convertible which you mentioned above is said to have the hard roof also available according to you, so it may most likely have been an owner-conversion rather than one supplied by Standard Motors?

[hps aulakh]

Originally Posted by ajay99

to the best of my knowledge there was never a convertible version of the standard herald in INDIA,please correct me if my info is wrong

Standard herald came with the two door model in which removing the hard top was very easy.There were two bolts on the front windshield and two below the rear glass.Unscrew them and the hard top would come off.It was good fun to drive it topless.Many army officers who owned these cars kept them in the open form.
I have two cars in which the top has been removed and stored.Fixing it does'nt take more than 10 minutes.
Now there is a soft top available in the UK for these cars to make them true convertibles.

[josejoseph]

A Triumph Herald barn find which is quite rare in USA - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/4372083086.html. This one looks almost complete.

[Stanher]

Originally Posted by hps aulakh

Standard herald came with the two door model in which removing the hard top was very easy.There were two bolts on the front windshield and two below the rear glass.Unscrew them and the hard top would come off.
I have two cars in which the top has been removed and stored.Fixing it does'nt take more than 10 minutes.
Now there is a soft top available in the UK for these cars to make them true convertibles.

The soft top from the UK Heralds would not fit the Indian Herald body unless extensive modification has been made to the rear part of the body. The UK Herald convertibles came with a smaller rear seat area and a cavity for the soft top to 'sit' down inside when opened and drawn back. The Indian Heralds, being saloons, do not have this provision for the soft top. And the UK convertibles do not have provision for the hard top/roof:

http://www.triumph-herald.com/y11781cv.jpg

http://www.selfdriveclassics.co.uk/i...s/triumph1.jpg

Meanwhile, came across something rather interesting- a 3D model of a Standard Gazel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUzD2g41BnI#t=16

http://humster3d.com/2014/02/28/standard-gazel-1971/

http://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphoto.../ebay60998.jpg

[VeyronSuperSprt]

Standard Motors came out with a one-off soft top Gazel for the use of the then CM of Tamilnadu. It was a light blue colour and the soft top was black. Since the only other cars available were Fiats and Ambys this was something different. It looked quite incongruous as the Gazel didn't have the smooth lines of the Herald. I don't think the CM ever used the car. Anyway for the record, Standard Motors did make one soft-top Gazel.

[hps aulakh]

Hi Shyam, is there any way of raising the height in the Herald.It is too low and the floor gets scrapped on high speed breakers.
Regards,

[Stanher]

Originally Posted by VeyronSuperSprt

Standard Motors came out with a one-off soft top Gazel for the use of the then CM of Tamilnadu.
Standard Motors did make one soft-top Gazel.

That's interesting to know! Would there be any pics. of this car existing anywhere?

Originally Posted by hps aulakh

Hi Shyam, is there any way of raising the height in the Herald.It is too low and the floor gets scrapped on high speed breakers.

Firstly sir, if I may point out, I understand you mean the floor gets SCRAPED (only one 'P'); I get rather uncomfortable on reading words like "scrapped" when used with Heralds!

You can get the height of the front coil springs raised by an inch or so, whenever you get the front suspension opened up; and also the rear leaf spring (kamaan patti as its called here) though that will cause more positive camber on the rear wheels, if you're ok with that.
Strangely, I actually didn't like my Herald being a bit 'higher' so I had the front coil spring height either side reduced by an inch!

[VeyronSuperSprt]

Originally Posted by Stanher

That's interesting to know! Would there be any pics. of this car existing anywhere?

Not that I know of unless Union Motors retained pics of unique cars that they did sell.

Originally Posted by hps aulakh

is there any way of raising the height in the Herald.It is too low and the floor gets scrapped on high speed breakers

Originally Posted by Stanher

You can get the height of the front coil springs raised by an inch or so, whenever you get the front suspension opened up; and also the rear leaf spring (kamaan patti as its called here) though that will cause more positive camber on the rear wheels, if you're ok with that.
Strangely, I actually didn't like my Herald being a bit 'higher' so I had the front coil spring height either side reduced by an inch!

The reason for your underbody scraping would be either weak front shocks or weak coil springs. With the original springs and shocks the Herald will not scrape its floor on speed breakers as it had a fairly good clearance even though it appeared low slung. It would not be advisable to raise the height of the front coil springs as that would reduce shock absorber travel leading to uncomfortable thuds when it bottoms out. The rear springs also would not need attention unless there is a reduction in the camber angle on either side. You could also check whether the rear shocks are worn.

[Ajit Kanbur]

Originally Posted by VeyronSuperSprt

Not that I know of unless Union Motors retained pics of unique cars that they did sell.



The reason for your underbody scraping would be either weak front shocks or weak coil springs. With the original springs and shocks the Herald will not scrape its floor on speed breakers as it had a fairly good clearance even though it appeared low slung. It would not be advisable to raise the height of the front coil springs as that would reduce shock absorber travel leading to uncomfortable thuds when it bottoms out. The rear springs also would not need attention unless there is a reduction in the camber angle on either side. You could also check whether the rear shocks are worn.

I agree with the view. My herald does not scrape the speedbreaker, even when fully loaded.
Ground clearance appears low, but that's deceptive. I have had no problems at all.

Regards.
Dr.Ajit Kanbur

[Stanher]

Originally Posted by VeyronSuperSprt

It would not be advisable to raise the height of the front coil springs as that would reduce shock absorber travel leading to uncomfortable thuds when it bottoms out.

The front springs of my car were found to have been raised by an inch, when I had bought it.

[hps aulakh]

Shyam, thanks for pointing out the error. The low height has not been a problem as such,it happened only on speed breaker which did not have the proper slope.
Anyway I shall not fiddle with the suspension as the shockers have been replaced recently.