Rust In Pieces... Pics of Disintegrating Classic & Vintage Cars

AMATMO · 31st August 2007, 12:26

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Originally Posted by JayD

No .... actually its neither, i think i posted it in the wrong thread. i'd gone to this place to check some cars for sale(check earlier posts) and saw this there. Itz not been used for a while, and v-16 wanted some pics of it. So just posted it in this thread itself!

well thats fine

i thought its abandoned

Ram · 31st August 2007, 13:35

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Originally Posted by JayD

Gogi bhai, these are for u! more pix of the jeep, and also, i found that it still has its front 4wd mechanism...

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Originally Posted by ram

Looks nice.
How come it is right-hand drive?
The blackout parking lights
and also the folding roof bows
look non-original, home-made, but nicely executed though.
And something seems weird about the openable panes of the folding windshield. They're too thick.
The bumper is non-original. It is also missing the hole for the starting crank.
The side footstep is wrong. Willys MBs never had 'em.

Other issues.

Also the front leaf-spring hanger is wrong. The Willy's MB had a forged "U" shaped hanger.

V-16 · 31st August 2007, 13:36

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Originally Posted by ram

Looks nice.
How come it is right-hand drive?
The blackout parking lights
and also the folding roof bows
look non-original, home-made, but nicely executed though.
And something seems weird about the openable panes of the folding windshield. They're too thick.
The bumper is non-original. It is also missing the hole for the starting crank.
The side footstep is wrong. Willys MBs never had 'em.

Well what else can I say, Ram has put all the questions I wanted to ask. Thanks Ram, could'nt have put it better

You're something else buddy!!
Also JayD please check if its got a Diesel heart, my guess is it just might, given the penchant the guy has for changing and modding cars ( the W123 was LHD converted to RHD, the 115-230 is actually a 200D etc, etc,)

speedy · 31st August 2007, 13:48

and all i can say bhai is that Ram has given such a detailed explaination that any lay man would be able to follow.
i must say Ram what observation. it took me a while to figure out that it was not the headlights but the entire grill that was wrong till you pointed it out. the footsteps never came in the willys

V-16 · 31st August 2007, 14:03

This is an MB which means it should be essentially a LHD like Ram pointed out. Also its grille has nine slats like the Ford so the Grille says MB. It cant be a CJ as tghe lights were different as Post war, the Willy's came with seven slats and Ford continued with Nine.

speedy · 31st August 2007, 14:23

so i guess this car is the owners own version and should not be touched unless you want it for pure pleasure and dont care about the originality of it. fun lovers and thrill seekers can have a run with it.

farhan_kidwai · 31st August 2007, 16:03

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speedy · 31st August 2007, 16:45

nice find farhan. this was a really nice looking car in its hey days. where did you manage to find it. am sure you had alot of villagers wondering what you upto

the car has been robbed completely of her clothing

. people just cant leave things as they are. did the car have an engine or parts of it was missing. it seems to have the speedometer but the glass is cracked. looks like the car was stripped to pay for daily items for the villagers

Ram · 31st August 2007, 19:24

First let's identify the model year.

It can't be a 1939, that had a completely different nose treatment.
The nose was integrated with the fenders and the headlamp teardrops sat on the fenders rather than on the nose.

But I thought ol' rusty could be a 1937 or 1938. They were very similar.

Well, the 1938 Buick had a hinged fuel door on the left rear fender.

The 1937 Buick had a chrome twist-cap on the right rear fender.

So ol' rusty is definitely a 1937.

Ram

Stanher · 31st August 2007, 19:43

Really sad to see this buick like this! Looks like it was a very complete/original car, still has even all the hubcaps intact!
I'm guessing, if it originally belongs to this village, it was owned by some prominent villagehead or a local zamindar's family.....he must've passed away & his children/g.children were not interested in maintaining the car but all the same refused to sell it to anyone who asked, and so.......
'been too familiar with these kinds of stories! :P :(

Ram · 31st August 2007, 19:49

Now let's look at the interior.

suren181 · 31st August 2007, 21:19

Mr.Ram, I salute you for your knowledge and observation skills. Wish you were at hyderabad and I could learn more, na, actually learn from you. This comes from a 39 year old fyi.

Yes, had to edit this post to add that I saw a 1941 single owner Buick getting being restored, totally original, for sale in a month.

Will be posting the details on the Classics available thread knowing this aint the thread for it.

vintageman · 31st August 2007, 23:34

Mr Ram ,

That was a wonderful presentation .

QED

speedy · 1st September 2007, 01:31

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Originally Posted by suren181

Mr.Ram, I salute you for your knowledge and observation skills. Wish you were at hyderabad and I could learn more, na, actually learn from you. This comes from a 39 year old fyi.

Yes, had to edit this post to add that I saw a 1941 single owner Buick getting being restored, totally original, for sale in a month.

Will be posting the details on the Classics available thread knowing this aint the thread for it.

THAT IS RAM AT HIS BEST.

suren please do post it and let me know what he is asking for it. thanks.

V-16 · 1st September 2007, 01:42

Amazing Ram, everyday we learn something.....!!

31st August 2007, 13:48	#469
speedy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Meri Jaan Posts: 6,197 Thanked: 1,024 Times View My Garage	and all i can say bhai is that Ram has given such a detailed explaination that any lay man would be able to follow. i must say Ram what observation. it took me a while to figure out that it was not the headlights but the entire grill that was wrong till you pointed it out. the footsteps never came in the willys
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31st August 2007, 14:03	#470
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 954 Times View My Garage	This is an MB which means it should be essentially a LHD like Ram pointed out. Also its grille has nine slats like the Ford so the Grille says MB. It cant be a CJ as tghe lights were different as Post war, the Willy's came with seven slats and Ford continued with Nine.
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31st August 2007, 14:23	#471
speedy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Meri Jaan Posts: 6,197 Thanked: 1,024 Times View My Garage	so i guess this car is the owners own version and should not be touched unless you want it for pure pleasure and dont care about the originality of it. fun lovers and thrill seekers can have a run with it.
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31st August 2007, 16:03	#472
farhan_kidwai BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Noida Posts: 121 Thanked: 97 Times View My Garage	Somewhere in the fields of UP - Buick 1938/39?? [/IMG][/IMG][/IMG] [/IMG]
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31st August 2007, 16:45	#473
speedy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Meri Jaan Posts: 6,197 Thanked: 1,024 Times View My Garage	nice find farhan. this was a really nice looking car in its hey days. where did you manage to find it. am sure you had alot of villagers wondering what you upto the car has been robbed completely of her clothing . people just cant leave things as they are. did the car have an engine or parts of it was missing. it seems to have the speedometer but the glass is cracked. looks like the car was stripped to pay for daily items for the villagers
	() Thanks

31st August 2007, 19:24	#474
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	It's definitely a 1937 Buick First let's identify the model year. It can't be a 1939, that had a completely different nose treatment. The nose was integrated with the fenders and the headlamp teardrops sat on the fenders rather than on the nose. But I thought ol' rusty could be a 1937 or 1938. They were very similar. Well, the 1938 Buick had a hinged fuel door on the left rear fender. The 1937 Buick had a chrome twist-cap on the right rear fender. So ol' rusty is definitely a 1937. Ram
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31st August 2007, 19:43	#475
Stanher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad, AP Posts: 6,491 Thanked: 2,091 Times View My Garage	Really sad to see this buick like this! Looks like it was a very complete/original car, still has even all the hubcaps intact! I'm guessing, if it originally belongs to this village, it was owned by some prominent villagehead or a local zamindar's family.....he must've passed away & his children/g.children were not interested in maintaining the car but all the same refused to sell it to anyone who asked, and so....... 'been too familiar with these kinds of stories! :P :(
	() Thanks

31st August 2007, 19:49	#476
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	Now let's look at the interior.
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31st August 2007, 21:19	#477
suren181 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 850 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Mr.Ram, I salute you for your knowledge and observation skills. Wish you were at hyderabad and I could learn more, na, actually learn from you. This comes from a 39 year old fyi. Yes, had to edit this post to add that I saw a 1941 single owner Buick getting being restored, totally original, for sale in a month. Will be posting the details on the Classics available thread knowing this aint the thread for it. Last edited by suren181 : 31st August 2007 at 21:33. Reason: addition
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31st August 2007, 23:34	#478
vintageman BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lucknow Posts: 429 Thanked: 686 Times View My Garage	Mr Ram , That was a wonderful presentation . QED
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1st September 2007, 01:42	#480
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 954 Times View My Garage	Amazing Ram, everyday we learn something.....!!
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