Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders?

manasmadaan · 31st October 2011, 21:56

These cost me 5700 per tyre. and i got 3000 for my used tyres....

rxpaul · 16th December 2011, 14:52

Planning to replace the 195/65 R15 NCT5 originals on my Octavia with 205/65 R15's. Some prices :
BS ER60 INR 6350

(not avl, but must be ordered)
BS MY01 INR 5900 (Thai import)
BS B390 INR 5850
Mich XM1+ INR 5950

Was planning to go for the ER 60, but the high prices have put me off....now i wil wait

Nikhilb2008 · 16th December 2011, 18:22

I think you are getting ripped off on the Bridgestones. You may as well get the Michelin if the dealer is quoting those prices on the BS.

rxpaul · 17th December 2011, 10:02

Nikhil,
Your are right, the ER60 does not make sense at this price. I have been reading some reviews comparing the AR10 with the ER 60 and the AR10 is reported better. So then it boils down to :
1. AR10
2.XM1+
3. MY01
4.ER60....... in that order of preferance. The AR 10 also seems to 'look' sportier and the ER60 the most old school. I am comparing the looks based on pics from the net.
What say ?

Skyline GT-R · 17th December 2011, 10:11

I suggest you to consider MY01.

I have been running on them (185/65R14) in my Figo for 20K kms. Very satisfied.

Only 1 flat due to nail hit. They are not too soft not hard either.

rxpaul · 17th December 2011, 14:09

The problem is that the MY01 is unidirectional. That means you can't exchange tyres.

swarnava.m · 17th December 2011, 14:43

I've just put on Michelin XM1+ 145/80 on my Alto, and the difference has been immediate. The noise has almost become zero, and the ride quality has improved immensely. The car feels extremely smooth, unlike anything I've ever experienced in an 800, alto, or zen, and the road characteristics are great too. Superb grip, and the braking is pretty convincing too. No squeal on hard corners, and low rolling resistance.

rxpaul · 20th December 2011, 17:26

After 6 months 'research' on tyres....size selection, make and model, and considering all the pro and cons (and frankly driving my wife and family members crazy), i finally purchased the Bridgestone ER 60 in the size 205/65 R15 for my Octavia TPI. Got them fitted and balanced today with addition of N2. Got a set of 4 cushions free !

The car feels great. Ground clearance increases by 6.5mm to 140 mm. Thank you Team-bhp !

xotiq · 21st December 2011, 19:28

Michelin XM1+ 185/70/14- 4600/- is this a good price? (BLR)

Nikhilb2008 · 22nd December 2011, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by xotiq

Michelin XM1+ 185/70/14- 4600/- is this a good price? (BLR)

It's good. No worries.

rxpaul · 2nd January 2012, 11:57

After 2 weeks on the Turanza ER60, here are some improvements on my Octavia which was earlier on Goodyear NCT5.
1.Rolling resistance has improved (pickup has improved, lesser downshifting).
2.Negligible tyre noise (even on the concrete expressway).
3.Much Better grip (cornering speed up by 20 kph).
4.Due to improved GC, no speedbreaker & ramp scrapes)
5. Steering wheel twirls better.

No negatives so far

M124 · 8th January 2012, 20:16

I have got a side wall cut on the front tyre jk vectra in sx4 zxi. Now thinking of replacing all the 4 tyres since they are 4 years old. What are my options in 16R ?

sumeethaldankar · 8th January 2012, 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by rxpaul

After 6 months 'research' on tyres....size selection, make and model, and considering all the pro and cons (and frankly driving my wife and family members crazy), i finally purchased the Bridgestone ER 60 in the size 205/65 R15 for my Octavia TPI. Got them fitted and balanced today with addition of N2. Got a set of 4 cushions free !

The car feels great. Ground clearance increases by 6.5mm to 140 mm. Thank you Team-bhp !

How much did you pay for the tyres ? I have the same for my Civic and cost me a bomb for 4 pieces.

rxpaul · 9th January 2012, 09:08

Well Rs.24,600 for 4, incl of valves, balancing, alignment & N2. A bomb, but i can claim it under 'Car Maintenance' from the office !

How is yr driving experience in the Civic ? Any negatives ?

Sridhar K · 9th January 2012, 18:32

My friend's brand new Swift ZDI has come up with Goodyear Duraplus stock. Will changing to ER60 reduce the tyre noise? XM1+ is also an option but considering the rough stretches our roads that we typically drive, we are a bit reluctant. Yoko A-drive seems to be available only 195/60/R15 configuration. Is it ok to upsize to 195/60?

Swift ZDI stock configuration is 185/60/R15.

31st October 2011, 21:56	#466
manasmadaan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Amritsar Posts: 329 Thanked: 326 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? These cost me 5700 per tyre. and i got 3000 for my used tyres....
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16th December 2011, 14:52	#467
rxpaul BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 375 Thanked: 136 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? Planning to replace the 195/65 R15 NCT5 originals on my Octavia with 205/65 R15's. Some prices : BS ER60 INR 6350 (not avl, but must be ordered) BS MY01 INR 5900 (Thai import) BS B390 INR 5850 Mich XM1+ INR 5950 Was planning to go for the ER 60, but the high prices have put me off....now i wil wait
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16th December 2011, 18:22	#468
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,150 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? I think you are getting ripped off on the Bridgestones. You may as well get the Michelin if the dealer is quoting those prices on the BS.
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17th December 2011, 10:02	#469
rxpaul BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 375 Thanked: 136 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? Nikhil, Your are right, the ER60 does not make sense at this price. I have been reading some reviews comparing the AR10 with the ER 60 and the AR10 is reported better. So then it boils down to : 1. AR10 2.XM1+ 3. MY01 4.ER60....... in that order of preferance. The AR 10 also seems to 'look' sportier and the ER60 the most old school. I am comparing the looks based on pics from the net. What say ?
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17th December 2011, 10:11	#470
Skyline GT-R BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Dubai Posts: 600 Thanked: 232 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? I suggest you to consider MY01. I have been running on them (185/65R14) in my Figo for 20K kms. Very satisfied. Only 1 flat due to nail hit. They are not too soft not hard either.
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17th December 2011, 14:09	#471
rxpaul BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 375 Thanked: 136 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? The problem is that the MY01 is unidirectional. That means you can't exchange tyres.
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17th December 2011, 14:43	#472
swarnava.m BHPian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mumbai/Margao Posts: 635 Thanked: 282 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? I've just put on Michelin XM1+ 145/80 on my Alto, and the difference has been immediate. The noise has almost become zero, and the ride quality has improved immensely. The car feels extremely smooth, unlike anything I've ever experienced in an 800, alto, or zen, and the road characteristics are great too. Superb grip, and the braking is pretty convincing too. No squeal on hard corners, and low rolling resistance.
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20th December 2011, 17:26	#473
rxpaul BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 375 Thanked: 136 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? After 6 months 'research' on tyres....size selection, make and model, and considering all the pro and cons (and frankly driving my wife and family members crazy), i finally purchased the Bridgestone ER 60 in the size 205/65 R15 for my Octavia TPI. Got them fitted and balanced today with addition of N2. Got a set of 4 cushions free ! The car feels great. Ground clearance increases by 6.5mm to 140 mm. Thank you Team-bhp ! Last edited by rxpaul : 20th December 2011 at 17:47.
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21st December 2011, 19:28	#474
xotiq BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 287 Thanked: 282 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? Michelin XM1+ 185/70/14- 4600/- is this a good price? (BLR) Last edited by xotiq : 21st December 2011 at 19:32.
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2nd January 2012, 11:57	#476
rxpaul BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 375 Thanked: 136 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? After 2 weeks on the Turanza ER60, here are some improvements on my Octavia which was earlier on Goodyear NCT5. 1.Rolling resistance has improved (pickup has improved, lesser downshifting). 2.Negligible tyre noise (even on the concrete expressway). 3.Much Better grip (cornering speed up by 20 kph). 4.Due to improved GC, no speedbreaker & ramp scrapes) 5. Steering wheel twirls better. No negatives so far
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8th January 2012, 20:16	#477
M124 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 145 Thanked: 35 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? I have got a side wall cut on the front tyre jk vectra in sx4 zxi. Now thinking of replacing all the 4 tyres since they are 4 years old. What are my options in 16R ?
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9th January 2012, 09:08	#479
rxpaul BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 375 Thanked: 136 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? Well Rs.24,600 for 4, incl of valves, balancing, alignment & N2. A bomb, but i can claim it under 'Car Maintenance' from the office ! How is yr driving experience in the Civic ? Any negatives ?
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9th January 2012, 18:32	#480
Sridhar K BHPian Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chennai Posts: 738 Thanked: 485 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? My friend's brand new Swift ZDI has come up with Goodyear Duraplus stock. Will changing to ER60 reduce the tyre noise? XM1+ is also an option but considering the rough stretches our roads that we typically drive, we are a bit reluctant. Yoko A-drive seems to be available only 195/60/R15 configuration. Is it ok to upsize to 195/60? Swift ZDI stock configuration is 185/60/R15.
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