Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders?

kpzen · 13th January 2011, 21:49

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Originally Posted by para_7k

That bettered the ride but the tyre is still noisy.

Are these tyres known to become too hard with age ?

They are the most silent tires you can get.
Michelins doesn't get so hard unless they are 5+ yrs old. Can you check the mfg wk of the tires ?

How much has the car done ? Get the wheel bearings checked.

Mpower · 13th January 2011, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres do NOT have the Energy name. That is because they dont have the silica compound which they use in the other 14" and 15" tyres.

So, the tread pattern is identical but the silica content is lesser in 12" and 13".

So all the XM series are + now (deeper thread). The website is confusing.

Nikhilb2008 · 14th January 2011, 13:50

Yes. All the + tyres have the deeper tread.

Mpower · 14th January 2011, 18:14

No, what I was asking is..have all the XM1s been converted to XM1+s?

para_7k · 14th January 2011, 21:34

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Originally Posted by kpzen

They are the most silent tires you can get.
Michelins doesn't get so hard unless they are 5+ yrs old. Can you check the mfg wk of the tires ?

How much has the car done ? Get the wheel bearings checked.

The car has done 25K. The wheel bearings are fine.

I just felt the tires were noisy. They are still better than the MRF ZVTS on my M800.

I think I should increase my tolerance levels

Live To Jive · 15th January 2011, 13:57

There was a lot of talk about the A-Drives. Are they still VFM? I heard the prices are gone up and the VFM factor is now gone.

predatorwheelz · 15th January 2011, 15:13

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Originally Posted by Live To Jive

There was a lot of talk about the A-Drives. Are they still VFM? I heard the prices are gone up and the VFM factor is now gone.

A-Drives are still way cheaper than XM1s or Turanzas in equivalent size. And equally good tyres, IMHO. What size are you looking for?

Live To Jive · 15th January 2011, 17:22

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Originally Posted by predatorwheelz

A-Drives are still way cheaper than XM1s or Turanzas in equivalent size. And equally good tyres, IMHO. What size are you looking for?

Actually one of my office staff was looking to change the tyres of his Santro. He's currently running MRF's and was going to replace with the same model. What is the next upsize without changing the rims?

predatorwheelz · 16th January 2011, 10:20

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Originally Posted by Live To Jive

Actually one of my office staff was looking to change the tyres of his Santro. He's currently running MRF's and was going to replace with the same model. What is the next upsize without changing the rims?

Upsize for the Santro's 155/70 R13 should be 165/65R13. They should cost you around 3.1K. I have exactly that size of A-Drives on my Indica

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kpzen · 16th January 2011, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Live To Jive

There was a lot of talk about the A-Drives. Are they still VFM? I heard the prices are gone up and the VFM factor is now gone.

Price of all tires have gone up, its not only the A drives.
A drives and Aceleres are still the most VFM tires available.

Nikhilb2008 · 31st January 2011, 20:24

MPower --- Yes, all the XM1s are now XM1+s. However, I have noticed some Jazzes and ANHCs coming with XM1s only.

And coming to prices, the prices are shooting upwards! It looks like they are trying to ruin life for the petrolheads! They seem to be in sync with petrol prices.

The difference is that petrol price will come down if crude oil prices come down. Natural Rubber price is only going up. No sign of coming down.

mithun · 31st January 2011, 22:20

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Well, even I was confused for a while! I never noticed the difference until last year!

12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres do NOT have the Energy name. That is because they dont have the silica compound which they use in the other 14" and 15" tyres.

So, the tread pattern is identical but the silica content is lesser in 12" and 13".

Any tech reason behind the lower silica content in 12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres ?

Black_Beast · 7th February 2011, 15:58

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Originally Posted by kpzen

Price of all tires have gone up, its not only the A drives.
A drives and Aceleres are still the most VFM tires available.

I got Four Tyres XM1+ a week back from Tyrestore, Chennai.
It costed Rs. 4275 Each.

Looks the rates are revised from Jan'11, In Dec'10 it was Rs.4200.
But, tires are brilliant. I was wondering on whether these tires would make atleast 10K Odo, this is really very soft and its great on road. I was having OEM GoodYear previously.

Nikhilb2008 · 15th February 2011, 18:23

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Originally Posted by mithun

Any tech reason behind the lower silica content in 12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres ?

I honestly dont know!

determinus · 18th February 2011, 14:38

I was looking for 195x70xR14 and the wait for Turanza is becoming frustrating -- 2 months and no stock yet. Michelin seems to be in stock. XM1+ is quoted 250 more than what was in December. 4400 per tyre (Darshan Tyres, Pune)

How bad have the prices gone up? Is the price above OK?

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31st January 2011, 20:24	#386
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,162 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? MPower --- Yes, all the XM1s are now XM1+s. However, I have noticed some Jazzes and ANHCs coming with XM1s only. And coming to prices, the prices are shooting upwards! It looks like they are trying to ruin life for the petrolheads! They seem to be in sync with petrol prices. The difference is that petrol price will come down if crude oil prices come down. Natural Rubber price is only going up. No sign of coming down.
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determinus BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 278 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? I was looking for 195x70xR14 and the wait for Turanza is becoming frustrating -- 2 months and no stock yet. Michelin seems to be in stock. XM1+ is quoted 250 more than what was in December. 4400 per tyre (Darshan Tyres, Pune) How bad have the prices gone up? Is the price above OK?
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