Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders?

FlyingSpur · 15th October 2009, 10:43

I can vouch for ER60. Switched to them for my '05 Corolla on the recommendation of Ishan himself. And they're been fantastic since. No problem whatsoever in little over 1 year and 30,000+ km.

AnonymousCoward · 15th October 2009, 20:38

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Originally Posted by ravibhat

My pick XM1+ or Turanza both are comfy tyres. After I changed to XM1+ in my Alto it rides like Innova. Excellant comfort, ZERO noise. I heard good wet grip although I don't have experience. Grip is much much better, I can't remember single time car has skid even in hard braking.

Alto touched 145kmph in NICE road with some effort (wait till 80kmph in 3rd gear and then shift to 4th) in XM1+.

Regards,

Ravi.

Hi Ravi, where did you get the XM1+ from? From the dealer itself? And how much did you pay? Did you also change to alloys? And 13 inchers? Thanks.

Su-47 · 19th October 2009, 00:24

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Su-47 --- The buyback should be around 1.5k or even a bit more.

The JK Vectras arent too bad though. I was mainly referring to the JK tornadoes which come on the Vxi and Lxi models in 165/80 R14. However, in my opinion, it is worth the extra cash to upgrade to better tyres.

Thanks for your post Nikhil, you've been a great help.

coolmel · 19th October 2009, 20:06

hey guys,

that was one awesome thread..but still my querys not solved...

I have the Getz GLX with abs. Want to change the tyres to either the ER60 or the XM1..somehow the xm1 doesnt convince me enough although it wins hands down..can someone put up a proper pic of the er60 so that i know better.

I want to fit the best tyres out there in the market..which ones should i go for??

ravibhat · 19th October 2009, 21:02

For Alto I am using XM1+, they are way better than crappy stock tyres. It has cost me around 1900/- per tyre 10 months back and I have plati alloys paid around 12000/- with chrome original nuts. You can find many shops to buy the same.

Regards,

Ravi.

longford · 20th October 2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by coolmel

hey guys,

that was one awesome thread..but still my querys not solved...

I have the Getz GLX with abs. Want to change the tyres to either the ER60 or the XM1..somehow the xm1 doesnt convince me enough although it wins hands down..can someone put up a proper pic of the er60 so that i know better.

I want to fit the best tyres out there in the market..which ones should i go for??

Well pics you can get from the michelin site.

I switched to XM1+ tyres for my accent and they are wonderful tyres indeed. The ride is quite smooth and grips are good as well. For in-city mumbai driving, anything will run, because, rarely you can get over a 60kmph even on the western express.

ER-60 is a wonderful tyre as well from whatever I have read. One friend told me post purchase, that the ERs do much better. But if I were to do it all over again, I would also consider Goodyear tyres as well. Take a clue from all the hot cars flowing around. They are not on XM or ERs but more on Continental, Goodyear and bridgestone or Pirelli.

Sn1p3r · 21st October 2009, 12:33

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Originally Posted by longford

Take a clue from all the hot cars flowing around. They are not on XM or ERs but more on Continental, Goodyear and bridgestone or Pirelli.

I think this last remark was a bit off target as we are talking of best all rounders.

There are always specialty tires, F1 to WRC all have special tires for special needs. For Indian car buyers the companies think of urban commute and highway cruising at low speed rather than enthusiasts burning rubber of zipping the highways. Thus most small cars still have MRF, Apollo, JK as standards.

The CBUs and high-end cars too work closely with the tire manufacture to optimize on the intended use of the cars. E.g. BMW uses run-flats. Even though it is a bane in India (road conditions), it is great at Autobahn speeds and stretch where it is difficult to find a punture wala in freezing temperature ;D

extreme_torque · 22nd March 2010, 00:23

Guys,

I am looking to change tyres on the Palio 1.2 and I have these two options. The tyre size I am looking at is 175/70 R13

Bridgestone Turanza - INR 2300 Per Tyre Tubeless
Apollo Accelere - INR 2600 Per Tyre Tubeless

Can you please suggest which one to go for? And is the price for Turanza too less?

And how do I identify an original Bridgestone tyre. Any markings or labels that I should look at.

Nikhilb2008 · 22nd March 2010, 01:08

Yeah.... something seems wrong. Parallel imports probably.

Go for the Acelere. A safer and non-nonsense option.

Anyway 2600 is a little bit on the lower side. Might be old stock. Even then, it's ok. Just check the manufacturing date. If it's 2009, then ok.

extreme_torque · 22nd March 2010, 10:49

@Nikhil... I have inquired about the prices on 2-3 shops and they all quoted round about the same for both Bridgestone and Apollo. Given the Bridgestones are originals, shall I still go for the costlier Apollo.

Thanks for your help.

funnyguru · 22nd March 2010, 13:39

Hi,
Planning to upgrade my JK vectras on my Ritz VXI to the Mich XM1+ . How much will be the buyback if its run 2500 kms, at a reputed tyre store?

sukiwa · 22nd March 2010, 13:50

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Originally Posted by funnyguru

Hi,
Planning to upgrade my JK vectras on my Ritz VXI to the Mich XM1+ . How much will be the buyback if its run 2500 kms, at a reputed tyre store?

Don't expect much, you would be lucky if you get more than Rs. 1000-1500. One gets better buyback value during initial few hundred Kms for the tyre.

mobike008 · 22nd March 2010, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by funnyguru

Hi,
Planning to upgrade my JK vectras on my Ritz VXI to the Mich XM1+ . How much will be the buyback if its run 2500 kms, at a reputed tyre store?

50% of the original cost is a decent buy back value. If you had changed it immediately after taking delivery of car, buy back value is as high as 75%

funnyguru · 22nd March 2010, 14:00

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Originally Posted by mobike008

50% of the original cost is a decent buy back value. If you had changed it immediately after taking delivery of car, buy back value is as high as 75%

Yeah, agree. Never thought would drive close to 2500 within 2 months

.
What about selling them to second hand tyre dealers. Will that fetch more?

mobike008 · 22nd March 2010, 14:06

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Originally Posted by funnyguru

Yeah, agree. Never thought would drive close to 2500 within 2 months

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What about selling them to second hand tyre dealers. Will that fetch more?

No harm in checking that option out. Usually, the dealer where you buying the new tyres will give you a better rate since you will be buying from him.

15th October 2009, 10:43	#256
FlyingSpur Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 3,934 Thanked: 1,423 Times View My Garage	I can vouch for ER60. Switched to them for my '05 Corolla on the recommendation of Ishan himself. And they're been fantastic since. No problem whatsoever in little over 1 year and 30,000+ km.
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19th October 2009, 20:06	#259
coolmel BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 612 Thanked: 381 Times	hey guys, that was one awesome thread..but still my querys not solved... I have the Getz GLX with abs. Want to change the tyres to either the ER60 or the XM1..somehow the xm1 doesnt convince me enough although it wins hands down..can someone put up a proper pic of the er60 so that i know better. I want to fit the best tyres out there in the market..which ones should i go for??
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19th October 2009, 21:02	#260
ravibhat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,256 Thanked: 37 Times View My Garage	For Alto I am using XM1+, they are way better than crappy stock tyres. It has cost me around 1900/- per tyre 10 months back and I have plati alloys paid around 12000/- with chrome original nuts. You can find many shops to buy the same. Regards, Ravi.
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22nd March 2010, 00:23	#263
extreme_torque Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 4,394 Thanked: 5,196 Times	Guys, I am looking to change tyres on the Palio 1.2 and I have these two options. The tyre size I am looking at is 175/70 R13 Bridgestone Turanza - INR 2300 Per Tyre Tubeless Apollo Accelere - INR 2600 Per Tyre Tubeless Can you please suggest which one to go for? And is the price for Turanza too less? And how do I identify an original Bridgestone tyre. Any markings or labels that I should look at. Last edited by Dippy : 22nd March 2010 at 13:49. Reason: Back to back posts.
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22nd March 2010, 01:08	#264
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,150 Times	Yeah.... something seems wrong. Parallel imports probably. Go for the Acelere. A safer and non-nonsense option. Anyway 2600 is a little bit on the lower side. Might be old stock. Even then, it's ok. Just check the manufacturing date. If it's 2009, then ok.
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22nd March 2010, 10:49	#265
extreme_torque Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Posts: 4,394 Thanked: 5,196 Times	@Nikhil... I have inquired about the prices on 2-3 shops and they all quoted round about the same for both Bridgestone and Apollo. Given the Bridgestones are originals, shall I still go for the costlier Apollo. Thanks for your help.
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22nd March 2010, 13:39	#266
funnyguru BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 266 Thanked: 5 Times	Whats my buyback $$? Hi, Planning to upgrade my JK vectras on my Ritz VXI to the Mich XM1+ . How much will be the buyback if its run 2500 kms, at a reputed tyre store?
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