Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders?

Nikhilb2008 · 7th October 2009, 13:21

Comfort and silence: Michelin.

Price: ER 60. Some people also claim that the ER60 handles better. One thing for sure though is that the ER60 gives better steering feedback.

Michelin should be around 3.6k or so. The ER60 a couple of hundred bucks cheaper.

ScorpMan · 7th October 2009, 14:41

Hey Nikhil, I paid 2550 for Turanza ER60 155/65 R13. Is that the right price?

Nikhilb2008 · 7th October 2009, 15:19

That should be ok. The pricelist however doesnt show 155/65R13 as an option in ER 60. When did you buy the tyre?

rudrah · 7th October 2009, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

That should be ok. The pricelist however doesnt show 155/65R13 as an option in ER 60. When did you buy the tyre?

Hi Nikhil,

any idea what would be the cost of following:

For 175/65/14 :
ER-60
Yoko A Drive

For 185/60/14:
Yoko A Drive

I'm planning to upgrade for my Palio Stile 1.6 as the current stock GoodYear tyres have developed bubbles in sidewalls!

Nikhilb2008 · 7th October 2009, 15:38

I wouldnt suggest 185/60R14. I suggest 185/65 R14.

Yoko A Drive should be around 3.3k.

175/65R14 should be around the same price. ER 60 is around 3.5k

rudrah · 7th October 2009, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

I wouldnt suggest 185/60R14. I suggest 185/65 R14.

Thanks for the info, Nikhil.

May i know why you suggest 185/65/R14 instead of 185/60/R14 which i read here that this is the correct upsize for my Palio 1.6!

Also will this size have any detrimental effect on the Speedo, FE, ride handling and cornering?

Nikhilb2008 · 7th October 2009, 19:08

185/65 R14 will give you better ride quality. 185/60 R!4 is quite useless unless 185/65 R14 will not fit in your car.

ScorpMan · 8th October 2009, 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

That should be ok. The pricelist however doesnt show 155/65R13 as an option in ER 60. When did you buy the tyre?

I bought it last week from a Bridgestone Authorized Dealer.

Su-47 · 14th October 2009, 15:49

I would be getting my Ritz-Zxi sometime next week, and need help from experts.

To start with, what exactly is so crappy about the stock JKs that I see them mentioned everywhere on this forum?

Anyway, coming to my requirements:
- Robustness: I will go crazy if the tyre develops bulges etc. Since I live in BLR, prefer to have a tyre with sidewall protection if possible. (BTW, on Bridgestone's site ER300 is shown to have shoulder protection, where as nothing of that sort is mentioned for ER60. Does that mean ER60 doesn't have it?)
- Noise: Don't want the harmonic noise of the V-treads. I guess both Turanza and XM1 are pretty silent.
- Decent Grip: In dry and wet. I'm no handling freak and just need a tyre that does well.
- Decently comfortable.

So, which is the right one XM1+ or ER-60? Is Accelere also a contender?

Please help with approximate prices of the above and also how much is the buyback I can expect on the stock tyres ( I guess they are 185/70 R14).

Thanks,
Su-47

Nikhilb2008 · 14th October 2009, 16:13

Su-47, the JK Tornados are noisy, hard, dont grip well in wet or dry and are not comfortable. That is what makes them so crappy!

For oyur requirements, you could go in for the Acelere is you have a tight budget. Otherwise the XM1+ would rule for sure. Both the XM1+ and the ER60 are pretty durable. Dont think you should have any problems with them as long as you exercise basic common sense.

Acelere and A Drives are also good and you should look at them also.

Su-47 · 14th October 2009, 16:53

Thanks for the response Nikhil!
Going through this thread I have some idea about the new tyre pricing, but, couldn't get an estimate on the buyback for the stock JKs of 185/70R14 size. Can you give some pointers..

Thanks,
Su-47

pypkmsrikanth · 14th October 2009, 17:11

Am getting a quote of Rs.2550 for Michellin XM1+ in Chennai the specs are 155/65/R13. How good is the price

Nikhilb2008 · 14th October 2009, 21:30

Su-47 --- The buyback should be around 1.5k or even a bit more.

The JK Vectras arent too bad though. I was mainly referring to the JK tornadoes which come on the Vxi and Lxi models in 165/80 R14. However, in my opinion, it is worth the extra cash to upgrade to better tyres.

pypkmsrikanth ---- the price is ok. Some people might say it's about a hundred bucks more or so, but minor variations are there. Maybe you can try bargaining harder!

AKi10 · 15th October 2009, 06:12

I am looking forward to upgrading the shoes on my i10
I would like to go in for XM1+ or ER60.
What would be the current price for 175/70/R13 and 185/70/R13 in Bangalore

And also how much can I expect on my stock i10 tyres. 155/80/R13 which has run around 8000 kms.

Regards,
Alex

Nikhilb2008 · 15th October 2009, 10:42

Alex, no point in exchanging now. You will lose a lot of money. Normally, a brand new i10 tyre will ftehc you about 1.5k in buyback. But after having run 8000 kms, you wont get more than a couple of hundred bucks maybe.

The 175/70R13 and 185/70R13 will be in the region of 3,000-3200.

7th October 2009, 13:21	#241
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	Comfort and silence: Michelin. Price: ER 60. Some people also claim that the ER60 handles better. One thing for sure though is that the ER60 gives better steering feedback. Michelin should be around 3.6k or so. The ER60 a couple of hundred bucks cheaper.
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7th October 2009, 14:41	#242
ScorpMan BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: DL/PB/HR Posts: 366 Thanked: 132 Times	Hey Nikhil, I paid 2550 for Turanza ER60 155/65 R13. Is that the right price?
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7th October 2009, 15:19	#243
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	That should be ok. The pricelist however doesnt show 155/65R13 as an option in ER 60. When did you buy the tyre?
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7th October 2009, 15:38	#245
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	I wouldnt suggest 185/60R14. I suggest 185/65 R14. Yoko A Drive should be around 3.3k. 175/65R14 should be around the same price. ER 60 is around 3.5k
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7th October 2009, 19:08	#247
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	185/65 R14 will give you better ride quality. 185/60 R!4 is quite useless unless 185/65 R14 will not fit in your car.
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14th October 2009, 15:49	#249
Su-47 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 693 Thanked: 346 Times	I would be getting my Ritz-Zxi sometime next week, and need help from experts. To start with, what exactly is so crappy about the stock JKs that I see them mentioned everywhere on this forum? Anyway, coming to my requirements: - Robustness: I will go crazy if the tyre develops bulges etc. Since I live in BLR, prefer to have a tyre with sidewall protection if possible. (BTW, on Bridgestone's site ER300 is shown to have shoulder protection, where as nothing of that sort is mentioned for ER60. Does that mean ER60 doesn't have it?) - Noise: Don't want the harmonic noise of the V-treads. I guess both Turanza and XM1 are pretty silent. - Decent Grip: In dry and wet. I'm no handling freak and just need a tyre that does well. - Decently comfortable. So, which is the right one XM1+ or ER-60? Is Accelere also a contender? Please help with approximate prices of the above and also how much is the buyback I can expect on the stock tyres ( I guess they are 185/70 R14). Thanks, Su-47
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14th October 2009, 16:13	#250
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	Su-47, the JK Tornados are noisy, hard, dont grip well in wet or dry and are not comfortable. That is what makes them so crappy! For oyur requirements, you could go in for the Acelere is you have a tight budget. Otherwise the XM1+ would rule for sure. Both the XM1+ and the ER60 are pretty durable. Dont think you should have any problems with them as long as you exercise basic common sense. Acelere and A Drives are also good and you should look at them also.
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14th October 2009, 16:53	#251
Su-47 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 693 Thanked: 346 Times	Thanks for the response Nikhil! Going through this thread I have some idea about the new tyre pricing, but, couldn't get an estimate on the buyback for the stock JKs of 185/70R14 size. Can you give some pointers.. Thanks, Su-47
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14th October 2009, 17:11	#252
pypkmsrikanth Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,133 Thanked: 308 Times View My Garage	Am getting a quote of Rs.2550 for Michellin XM1+ in Chennai the specs are 155/65/R13. How good is the price
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14th October 2009, 21:30	#253
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	Su-47 --- The buyback should be around 1.5k or even a bit more. The JK Vectras arent too bad though. I was mainly referring to the JK tornadoes which come on the Vxi and Lxi models in 165/80 R14. However, in my opinion, it is worth the extra cash to upgrade to better tyres. pypkmsrikanth ---- the price is ok. Some people might say it's about a hundred bucks more or so, but minor variations are there. Maybe you can try bargaining harder!
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15th October 2009, 06:12	#254
AKi10 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 29 Thanked: 20 Times	I am looking forward to upgrading the shoes on my i10 I would like to go in for XM1+ or ER60. What would be the current price for 175/70/R13 and 185/70/R13 in Bangalore And also how much can I expect on my stock i10 tyres. 155/80/R13 which has run around 8000 kms. Regards, Alex
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15th October 2009, 10:42	#255
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	Alex, no point in exchanging now. You will lose a lot of money. Normally, a brand new i10 tyre will ftehc you about 1.5k in buyback. But after having run 8000 kms, you wont get more than a couple of hundred bucks maybe. The 175/70R13 and 185/70R13 will be in the region of 3,000-3200.
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