Bridgestone Turanza - Very trust worthy!

navin · 3rd April 2009, 23:35

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Originally Posted by vid6639

If your tyre dealer is reliable, grey market is equally good. Even if you buy with warranty almost no tyre manufacturer replaces them as indian roads are no good and the blame is passed that the car was driven over a stone causing the bulge/tear and it is not a manufacturing defect.

I dont have a tyre dealer. I'd probably ask the "tyre guru" for help on this.

Vid6639 · 3rd April 2009, 23:39

In Mumbai N_C is your man. He did quite a lot of R&D on the dealers and finally got a good deal for the Turanza AR-10.

Nikhilb2008 · 3rd April 2009, 23:58

Just a thought, why dont you try Continental ContiPremiumContact?

Supposed to be one of the best tyres out there in the market. Decent grip, amazing ride comfort are the claimed characteristics. Not too many people on TBHP have used them. Maybe you can put up a comprehensive review once you use them!

They are available with B&W.

If not for those, Michelin Primacy LC should be a safe bet, but that too is new in the market.

For outright comfort, I wouldnt recommend anything else.(talking about 'white' market here).

In the greay market, you might get better options as Vidyuth outlined in his post.

Vid6639 · 4th April 2009, 00:01

Yep, I agree with Nikhil. Get the Continental PremiumContact 2. Available in India offcially. These tyres are meant for german cars and the Jetta in India comes with these tyres in the same size as yours as OE.

iraghava · 4th April 2009, 03:37

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Originally Posted by navin

I am looking for new tyres for my vRS. I intend to keep the stock rims so at best I would consdier 205.

1. Would 205 reduce turning radius?
2. Which tyre is the quitest. I dont like road noise.
3. my needs are low noise, max comfort, and they should last atleast 30K like my OEM tyres did. Given that 205 is ok here are my choices.

a. Michelin Pilot Precada PP2 205/60 R16
b. Michelin Energy MXV8 205/55 R16
c. Bridgestone Turanza ER30 205/55 R16 89V
c. Bridgestone Potneza GIII 205/55 R16 89V

or should I upszie 2 sizes and get the Michelin Pilot Primacy 215/60R16

Potenza GIII & 215/60 are no-no's Navin. 215/60 will scrape & GIII's are noisy as hell. 205/60 is out of aceeptable OD tolerance limits so that is also not an option.

I would suggest the LC as of now, more info tomorrow as I'm waiting for some updated lists to be mailed to me.

navin · 11th April 2009, 16:20

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Originally Posted by iraghava

215/60 will scrape...I would suggest the LC as of now.

but the LCs are only available in 215 not 205. Any update Rags?

No Potenza GIII not 215/60 only 205/55 which leaves me with these 2 options

a. Michelin Energy MXV8 205/55 R16
b. Bridgestone Turanza ER30 205/55 R16 89V or Turanza GR80 205/55 R16 89V

Vid6639 · 11th April 2009, 19:43

Why not the Continental Premiumcontact 2 Navinji? They are tyres made for cars in this class like Jetta.

If not then from above list my choice is the GR-80. I loved them on the new accord but they stopped it past few months and replaced them with cheaper lower grade turanza ER-370.

The GR-80's were Rs.8K a pop.

31st May 2009, 07:56

Just got back from torture testing the Turanza ER60 195/60/R14 on The Verna. Thanks to Kpzen for the recommendation.
I was looking for budget tyres that are better than the OEM 175s that come with the car.

Cost me 3.8k per tyre

Drove the car in pouring rain over surfaces that are normally slippery, even when dry. Also threw in all the potholes I could find on the route.

The car now puts down torque well. less wheel spin now when launching in a straightline.
Lots more feedback(something I'd thought I'd never say about the verna's steering)
Ride comfort has gone up significantly enough for me to actually start hunting for potholes, just so that I could experience the gliding feeling.
You're eyes tell you that your going over a bump, but your butt denies it completely

its a strange disconnect that is actually pleasurable.

Cornering the verna now is actually fun.
There is no washing out of the front tyres when at speed. Lot less understeer.
Cornering is also a lot more confident, as there is a massive reduction in pitching and wallowing.

I tried taking a corner in 2nd gear, accelerating as soon as I entered it(not how I normally drive,Dont worry), just to test the understeer. the torque caused the tyres to break traction and spin impressively, but funnily enough, the car held its line and did not plough straight through.

Very predictable handling even when the driver is upto silly antics.
I dont understand how the tyre does it, but the lateral grip seemed unaffected even when the traction levels were close to zero due to the wheelspin. I love it.

Tested a mid corner bump that is on my daily commute. took the turn at 70, hit the bump while turning and the car did not get unsettled, there was a slight wobble but there was no loss of grip or traction. The verna felt as good as the swift D(using potenza g3s) on this corner. Amazing! Normally, I'd be terrified doing that corner at 50kmph in the verna in wet conditions for fear of throwing the tail out.

The bounciness that plagues the verna on undulating roads is practically gone, please note though, that, I did not get the chance to take the car above 120kmph, even though it was 6AM on a sunday morning.

Noise? what noise?

Braking was brilliant even with stock tyres. That has improved too, though not as much as the ride/handling/noise.
These tyres, to me, are complete VFM and satisfy all the rquirements I had in mind. thanks again to kpzen.

lohithrao · 31st May 2009, 09:01

Am missing the ride quality of turanza, had to go for XM1+ Mich since ER60 dint have the profile which i was looking for...

Nikhilb2008 · 31st May 2009, 20:14

Which size Lohith? Just for curiosity. I thought the ER60 was available in almost all popular sizes.

Vid6639 · 31st May 2009, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Which size Lohith? Just for curiosity. I thought the ER60 was available in almost all popular sizes.

I'm guessing 195/70-14 for the Fiat Adventure.

Ripper good to know that your happy with the Turanza. Have had them on the lancer for 3 years and 30,000kms and they still look like new. Mind you I'm not that sedate a driver.

Overall very good tyres for our roads as they are comfy, offer good grip and can take any amount of abuse.

I've been driving with 2 huge nails in my front right tyre for a week now.

jithudigitised · 31st May 2009, 20:27

So, how does it score in the performance are when compared to Micheling Energy Mxv8 ?

Well i will be soon looking for new sets.My current size is 195/60 R15.

Nikhilb2008 · 31st May 2009, 20:35

MXV8s are waaaay too soft. These will be much more durable. Ride quality on the ER60 might be a little bit worse though, but I think it's a worthwhile trade-off.

jithudigitised · 31st May 2009, 20:53

So what about the performace, like - braking,cornering etc.(Had read the rippers post,but its for verna and mine is swift)

1st June 2009, 06:48

@jithudigitised
The Verna's chassis and suspension setup is not as good as the swift's, but still the tyre made a huge difference in the way the car behaves on road.
The effects should be magnified on the better set up of the swift.

3rd April 2009, 23:39	#32
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,709 Thanked: 44,133 Times View My Garage	In Mumbai N_C is your man. He did quite a lot of R&D on the dealers and finally got a good deal for the Turanza AR-10.
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3rd April 2009, 23:58	#33
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,195 Thanked: 10,177 Times	Just a thought, why dont you try Continental ContiPremiumContact? Supposed to be one of the best tyres out there in the market. Decent grip, amazing ride comfort are the claimed characteristics. Not too many people on TBHP have used them. Maybe you can put up a comprehensive review once you use them! They are available with B&W. If not for those, Michelin Primacy LC should be a safe bet, but that too is new in the market. For outright comfort, I wouldnt recommend anything else.(talking about 'white' market here). In the greay market, you might get better options as Vidyuth outlined in his post.
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4th April 2009, 00:01	#34
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,709 Thanked: 44,133 Times View My Garage	Yep, I agree with Nikhil. Get the Continental PremiumContact 2. Available in India offcially. These tyres are meant for german cars and the Jetta in India comes with these tyres in the same size as yours as OE.
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11th April 2009, 19:43	#37
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,709 Thanked: 44,133 Times View My Garage	Why not the Continental Premiumcontact 2 Navinji? They are tyres made for cars in this class like Jetta. If not then from above list my choice is the GR-80. I loved them on the new accord but they stopped it past few months and replaced them with cheaper lower grade turanza ER-370. The GR-80's were Rs.8K a pop.
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31st May 2009, 07:56	#38
rippergeo Posts: n/a	Just got back from torture testing the Turanza ER60 195/60/R14 on The Verna. Thanks to Kpzen for the recommendation. I was looking for budget tyres that are better than the OEM 175s that come with the car. Cost me 3.8k per tyre Drove the car in pouring rain over surfaces that are normally slippery, even when dry. Also threw in all the potholes I could find on the route. The car now puts down torque well. less wheel spin now when launching in a straightline. Lots more feedback(something I'd thought I'd never say about the verna's steering) Ride comfort has gone up significantly enough for me to actually start hunting for potholes, just so that I could experience the gliding feeling. You're eyes tell you that your going over a bump, but your butt denies it completely its a strange disconnect that is actually pleasurable. Cornering the verna now is actually fun. There is no washing out of the front tyres when at speed. Lot less understeer. Cornering is also a lot more confident, as there is a massive reduction in pitching and wallowing. I tried taking a corner in 2nd gear, accelerating as soon as I entered it(not how I normally drive,Dont worry), just to test the understeer. the torque caused the tyres to break traction and spin impressively, but funnily enough, the car held its line and did not plough straight through. Very predictable handling even when the driver is upto silly antics. I dont understand how the tyre does it, but the lateral grip seemed unaffected even when the traction levels were close to zero due to the wheelspin. I love it. Tested a mid corner bump that is on my daily commute. took the turn at 70, hit the bump while turning and the car did not get unsettled, there was a slight wobble but there was no loss of grip or traction. The verna felt as good as the swift D(using potenza g3s) on this corner. Amazing! Normally, I'd be terrified doing that corner at 50kmph in the verna in wet conditions for fear of throwing the tail out. The bounciness that plagues the verna on undulating roads is practically gone, please note though, that, I did not get the chance to take the car above 120kmph, even though it was 6AM on a sunday morning. Noise? what noise? Braking was brilliant even with stock tyres. That has improved too, though not as much as the ride/handling/noise. These tyres, to me, are complete VFM and satisfy all the rquirements I had in mind. thanks again to kpzen.
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31st May 2009, 09:01	#39
lohithrao Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kudla/Mangaluru Posts: 3,203 Thanked: 226 Times View My Garage	Am missing the ride quality of turanza, had to go for XM1+ Mich since ER60 dint have the profile which i was looking for...
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31st May 2009, 20:14	#40
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,195 Thanked: 10,177 Times	Which size Lohith? Just for curiosity. I thought the ER60 was available in almost all popular sizes.
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31st May 2009, 20:27	#42
jithudigitised BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 358 Thanked: 141 Times View My Garage	So, how does it score in the performance are when compared to Micheling Energy Mxv8 ? Well i will be soon looking for new sets.My current size is 195/60 R15.
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31st May 2009, 20:35	#43
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,195 Thanked: 10,177 Times	MXV8s are waaaay too soft. These will be much more durable. Ride quality on the ER60 might be a little bit worse though, but I think it's a worthwhile trade-off.
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31st May 2009, 20:53	#44
jithudigitised BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Thiruvananthapuram Posts: 358 Thanked: 141 Times View My Garage	So what about the performace, like - braking,cornering etc.(Had read the rippers post,but its for verna and mine is swift)
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1st June 2009, 06:48	#45
rippergeo Posts: n/a	@jithudigitised The Verna's chassis and suspension setup is not as good as the swift's, but still the tyre made a huge difference in the way the car behaves on road. The effects should be magnified on the better set up of the swift.
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