Replacement tyres for Lancer? No upsizing.

deepakvrao · 25th March 2008, 08:16

Hi guys,

I looked thru many threads with the search but they have two issues:

1. Most of the threads showing are pretty old and I'm sure that there must be many changes in available tyres
2. Most threads are WRT tyre upsizing

I just wanted a simple answer to what I should buy to replace the OE tyres [175/80/13]. Bridgestone OE replacements are not available as tubeless and as far as I have read here tubeless is the way to go. OTOH I really dont want to spend too much as this car sees about 6-8 km per day and just around small city roads. Never take it out of town and like I said the car does a maximum of 2500 km/year. Obviously I also dont want to have to change the rims.

Am willing for an upsize if I dont have to change the rims. Michellin website recommends 185/70/13 - isn't that too much of a difference in the diameter?

Would be grateful for any help.

Thanks.

Vid6639 · 25th March 2008, 09:01

Don't worry 185/70-13 is a perfect upsize for the lancer without having to change the rims.

The 175/80-13 is ridiculously high profile size for the lancer GLXi. The SFXi came with 185/60-14 which was also wrong. I upgraded to 195/60-14, the overall diameter of which 589.53mm.

If you go for 185/70-13 the diameter will be 589.02mm which is absolutely fine. Don't go for anything more than 185 as you rim width is lesser and will not support it.

Tyre options in that size are Michelinn XM1, Bridgestone turanza ER-60. The cheapest of the lot and good VFM would be the Apollo Aceleres.

deepakvrao · 25th March 2008, 09:41

Diameter Difference:3.46%

175/80/13 - Radius:12.01"; Circum:75.46"

185/70/13 - Radius: 11.59"; Circum: 72.85"

This is what I got when I compared the tyres. I have also read [here] that a difference of 3% is the maximum that you should have?

With the radius reducing by about 1/2" the ground clearance would be less by that much I suppose? Is this a significant amount? 1.25cm - I really have no idea.

What kind of pricing are these tyres?

Thanks for the help.

kpzen · 25th March 2008, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

Tyre options in that size are Michelinn XM1, Bridgestone turanza ER-60. The cheapest of the lot and good VFM would be the Apollo Aceleres.

Yokohama A300 and Potenza GIIIs are also available in that size..Michelin XM1 or Apollo Acelere would be my choice.
All tyres would be in the range of 2500-3000 per tyre

jack33 · 25th March 2008, 11:24

If you are putting 185/70/13 instead of 175/80/13, your ground clearance will be lesser by 1cm.If you are a city rider, then it won't be a problem.

Vid6639 · 25th March 2008, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepakvrao

Diameter Difference:3.46%

175/80/13 - Radius:12.01"; Circum:75.46"

185/70/13 - Radius: 11.59"; Circum: 72.85"

This is what I got when I compared the tyres. I have also read [here] that a difference of 3% is the maximum that you should have?

With the radius reducing by about 1/2" the ground clearance would be less by that much I suppose? Is this a significant amount? 1.25cm - I really have no idea.

What kind of pricing are these tyres?

Thanks for the help.

Don't worry about the diameter difference. Even Mitsubishi don't know the ideal diameter for their car. The drop in diameter is 1.25cm but the ground clearance will drop by 0.6cm which is negligible. As kpzen suggested G-III and A300 are also available but teh A300 is extremely soft compound which will offer a good ride but may not last on our roads. The G-III are good performance tyres but on the lancer they have terrible road noise. The Apollo and michelin's are the best bet.

deepakvrao · 26th March 2008, 06:31

Thanks guys.Went to Sai yesterday and asked him to fit the Michelin XM1s but they were not in stock. So got the Apollo Acelere 185/70/13 instead.

2950 per tyre.

itzzme · 27th March 2008, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepakvrao

Thanks guys.Went to Sai yesterday and asked him to fit the Michelin XM1s but they were not in stock. So got the Apollo Acelere 185/70/13 instead.

2950 per tyre.

in that price you could have had better options....

razor4077 · 27th March 2008, 11:16

Deepak, good choice on the size - 185/70/13 works very well on the Lancer. My car came with tyres that size when I bought it... worked fine.
Regd the Apollos, are these Acelere or Acelere Sports?

deepakvrao · 27th March 2008, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by itzzme

in that price you could have had better options....

Like what - for future reference at least - the Michelins were 3300.

deepakvrao · 27th March 2008, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

Deepak, good choice on the size - 185/70/13 works very well on the Lancer. My car came with tyres that size when I bought it... worked fine.
Regd the Apollos, are these Acelere or Acelere Sports?

Acelere - is there a huge difference?

kpzen · 27th March 2008, 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor4077

Regd the Apollos, are these Acelere or Acelere Sports?

Acelere sportz version starts from 14".

directinjection · 27th March 2008, 15:20

Deepak, how's been your experience with the new tyres? I'm sure road grip must have increased significantly. But how's the ride quality over rough roads?

deepakvrao · 27th March 2008, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by directinjection

Deepak, how's been your experience with the new tyres? I'm sure road grip must have increased significantly. But how's the ride quality over rough roads?

Well - the difference is amazing - which is expected considering my old tyres were close to TEN years and had 64K Kms on them.

OTOH I drive this car just about 6-7Km per day.

25th March 2008, 08:16	#1
deepakvrao BANNED Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 300 Thanked: 2 Times	Replacement tyres for Lancer? No upsizing. Hi guys, I looked thru many threads with the search but they have two issues: 1. Most of the threads showing are pretty old and I'm sure that there must be many changes in available tyres 2. Most threads are WRT tyre upsizing I just wanted a simple answer to what I should buy to replace the OE tyres [175/80/13]. Bridgestone OE replacements are not available as tubeless and as far as I have read here tubeless is the way to go. OTOH I really dont want to spend too much as this car sees about 6-8 km per day and just around small city roads. Never take it out of town and like I said the car does a maximum of 2500 km/year. Obviously I also dont want to have to change the rims. Am willing for an upsize if I dont have to change the rims. Michellin website recommends 185/70/13 - isn't that too much of a difference in the diameter? Would be grateful for any help. Thanks. Last edited by deepakvrao : 25th March 2008 at 08:24.
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25th March 2008, 09:01	#2
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,709 Thanked: 44,134 Times View My Garage	Don't worry 185/70-13 is a perfect upsize for the lancer without having to change the rims. The 175/80-13 is ridiculously high profile size for the lancer GLXi. The SFXi came with 185/60-14 which was also wrong. I upgraded to 195/60-14, the overall diameter of which 589.53mm. If you go for 185/70-13 the diameter will be 589.02mm which is absolutely fine. Don't go for anything more than 185 as you rim width is lesser and will not support it. Tyre options in that size are Michelinn XM1, Bridgestone turanza ER-60. The cheapest of the lot and good VFM would be the Apollo Aceleres.
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25th March 2008, 09:41	#3
deepakvrao BANNED Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 300 Thanked: 2 Times	Diameter Difference:3.46% 175/80/13 - Radius:12.01"; Circum:75.46" 185/70/13 - Radius: 11.59"; Circum: 72.85" This is what I got when I compared the tyres. I have also read [here] that a difference of 3% is the maximum that you should have? With the radius reducing by about 1/2" the ground clearance would be less by that much I suppose? Is this a significant amount? 1.25cm - I really have no idea. What kind of pricing are these tyres? Thanks for the help.
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25th March 2008, 11:24	#5
jack33 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: kochi Posts: 127 Thanked: 9 Times	If you are putting 185/70/13 instead of 175/80/13, your ground clearance will be lesser by 1cm.If you are a city rider, then it won't be a problem.
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26th March 2008, 06:31	#7
deepakvrao BANNED Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 300 Thanked: 2 Times	Thanks guys.Went to Sai yesterday and asked him to fit the Michelin XM1s but they were not in stock. So got the Apollo Acelere 185/70/13 instead. 2950 per tyre.
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27th March 2008, 11:16	#9
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	Deepak, good choice on the size - 185/70/13 works very well on the Lancer. My car came with tyres that size when I bought it... worked fine. Regd the Apollos, are these Acelere or Acelere Sports?
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27th March 2008, 15:20	#13
directinjection Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 1,717 Thanked: 830 Times	Deepak, how's been your experience with the new tyres? I'm sure road grip must have increased significantly. But how's the ride quality over rough roads?
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