Fiesta on Michelin Pilot Preceda PP1

theexister · 23rd January 2008, 10:53

Anyone can suggest before I go to the tyre wallah

iraghava · 23rd January 2008, 11:50

Well it looks like you've either grazed a pavement or a sharp stone which lead to this mark on the tyres. From what I can see it is not a cut yet but with constant use it will lead into that.

What I woudl suggest is to go to the shop & have the tyre removed from the rim & check the extent of the damage & how deep this mark is by checking the inner side of the tyre. According to that take a call.

And busted sidewalls can be repaired but it's not recommended since the tyre develops a permanent bulge & remains usable only as a spare for short distances as there is permanent wobbling which cannot be cured.

joshdrive · 23rd January 2008, 12:17

Am planning to change tyres for my Ikon and from the various forum post here looking like Michelin PP2 is good option. Anyone knows good place to get tyres in chennai?

reignofchaos · 23rd January 2008, 13:35

Had a bad puncture in one of my car's tyres (PP2). A seriously big nail got in somehow and cut the tyre a bit at the junction of the sidewall and the main top section. Applied a mushroom patch but I guess its best to use this particular tyre only as a spare. I guess the PP2 is a bit too soft for indian conditions. However who the hell cares. For the grip it offers, I'd gladly take it over anything else.

vijuvarghese · 24th January 2008, 13:28

My experience with Pilot Preceda 185/60R14 on Marina:
Good performance on dry and wet roads, quieter than JK got as OE.

But got the side-wall cut when front left fell into a pothole of international quality on NH-7 while approaching Hosur, in the Krishnagiri-Hosur strech. Speed was 90-100 kmph. So I feel side walls on Pilot Preceda is not very strong, but better than most Indian breands.

theexister · 28th January 2008, 23:21

I got them checked only today at Ashoka wheels & was told that it was nothing to worry about.
Also I was told that next time I have a doubt, run something like a key onto the cut & only if it goes deep inside then its time to worry.

Thanks Ira for the reply.

Wolffe · 15th March 2008, 15:36

Am planning to change tyres for my Ikon and from the various forum post here looking like Michelin PP2 is good option. Anyone knows good place to get tyres in chennai

Hi Josh,You could try International tyres at Woods road or his brothers shop in Gopalpuram(at the end of the road on the right,going from Chola sheraton).He deals with Michelin.

joshdrive · 17th March 2008, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolffe

Hi Josh,You could try International tyres at Woods road or his brothers shop in Gopalpuram(at the end of the road on the right,going from Chola sheraton).He deals with Michelin.

Hi: Thanks for that info. Will checkout these shops.

Wolffe · 20th March 2008, 16:37

No problems.Let us know if you got the wheels.

docsinghal · 12th July 2008, 07:28

I am buying the new Ford Fiesta SXi 1.6 (petrol) next week and want to upsize the tires immediately after the purchase. I enquired the local dealer in my city and found that Michelin doesn't make PP2 in the size 195/60 R14. Only PP1 is avaialble for this size (the same is also mentioned on Michelin's India website). However PP2 is available in 185/60 R14.
I want to know if there a huge difference between the performance of PP1 and PP2, since I really want to go for the 195/60 R14 size but if the performance difference is big then I think even 185 tread width would do. I have been quoted a price of Rs 4100/- per tire for the PP1, is there a big difference in the price of PP1 and PP2 also?
Then there is another part of my brain which says that at a similar price I should go for the XM1+ since they offer better comfort and mileage.
I'm really confused. Any suggestions would be welcome.

razor4077 · 12th July 2008, 12:24

PP2s are super tyres... been using them for a while and am fida on them. I haven't used PP1s, so cannot really compare, but from what many users have said, they are excellent tyres too. I think they will be worth your while.
XM1+ would also be a good option, but like you said, they're comfort/mileage-oriented, so you need to figure out your priorities. Having said that, PPs are not uncomfortable tyres by any means - they are super comfy and silent for a performance-oriented tyre. And the Fiesta + PP is a proven combo, as this thread describes

itwasntme · 12th July 2008, 13:59

Hi Doc,

I think the main difference between the PP1s and 2s is that traction in wet weather is much improved in the latter.

However, PP1s are still very good so it's your call.

IMHO, 185 PP2s are better as you will get higher mileage with the narrower tyre (vis-a-vis 195 PP1s) and the difference in wet weather traction will be negligible.

Mpower · 12th July 2008, 22:08

What is the smallest size made in Pilot Preceda for 14". Are 165s and 175s also available?

iraghava · 13th July 2008, 03:20

185/60 R14 is the smallest size for PP2's in India man!

RedMM340 · 13th July 2008, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by docsinghal

I am buying the new Ford Fiesta SXi 1.6 (petrol) next week and want to upsize the tires immediately after the purchase. I enquired the local dealer in my city and found that Michelin doesn't make PP2 in the size 195/60 R14. Only PP1 is avaialble for this size (the same is also mentioned on Michelin's India website). However PP2 is available in 185/60 R14.
I want to know if there a huge difference between the performance of PP1 and PP2, since I really want to go for the 195/60 R14 size but if the performance difference is big then I think even 185 tread width would do. I have been quoted a price of Rs 4100/- per tire for the PP1, is there a big difference in the price of PP1 and PP2 also?
Then there is another part of my brain which says that at a similar price I should go for the XM1+ since they offer better comfort and mileage.
I'm really confused. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Doc,
I am running Michelin Pilot Preceda (PP1) on my Palio GTX, size is 195/60 R14. I could not be happier with this tire. As hard as I have tried, this tire will not break loose around turns and does not even squeal under hard cornering.

It is an excellent high performance tire which means that it will give you better handling, braking, and high speed stability than the Michelin Energy series. The pilot series is also a softer rubber compound that wears much faster, and the wider tire will reduce fuel economy and give more feedback on bad roads.

So it is your call. Most people will be perfectly happy with the energy series, so make your decision based on the type of driving you do, and your pocketbook. But typically if you are undecided, go with the Michelin Energy tire. It is a premium quality tire. Most folks that go for a tire like the Preceda want ultra high performance irrespective of cost & comfort.

Regards,

23rd January 2008, 10:53	#31
theexister BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad...now moved to Bangalore Posts: 172 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	Anyone can suggest before I go to the tyre wallah
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23rd January 2008, 11:50	#32
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,997 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	Well it looks like you've either grazed a pavement or a sharp stone which lead to this mark on the tyres. From what I can see it is not a cut yet but with constant use it will lead into that. What I woudl suggest is to go to the shop & have the tyre removed from the rim & check the extent of the damage & how deep this mark is by checking the inner side of the tyre. According to that take a call. And busted sidewalls can be repaired but it's not recommended since the tyre develops a permanent bulge & remains usable only as a spare for short distances as there is permanent wobbling which cannot be cured.
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23rd January 2008, 12:17	#33
joshdrive BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 203 Thanked: 0 Times	Am planning to change tyres for my Ikon and from the various forum post here looking like Michelin PP2 is good option. Anyone knows good place to get tyres in chennai?
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23rd January 2008, 13:35	#34
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,558 Thanked: 2,527 Times View My Garage	Had a bad puncture in one of my car's tyres (PP2). A seriously big nail got in somehow and cut the tyre a bit at the junction of the sidewall and the main top section. Applied a mushroom patch but I guess its best to use this particular tyre only as a spare. I guess the PP2 is a bit too soft for indian conditions. However who the hell cares. For the grip it offers, I'd gladly take it over anything else.
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24th January 2008, 13:28	#35
vijuvarghese BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 9 Times	My experience with Pilot Preceda 185/60R14 on Marina: Good performance on dry and wet roads, quieter than JK got as OE. But got the side-wall cut when front left fell into a pothole of international quality on NH-7 while approaching Hosur, in the Krishnagiri-Hosur strech. Speed was 90-100 kmph. So I feel side walls on Pilot Preceda is not very strong, but better than most Indian breands.
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28th January 2008, 23:21	#36
theexister BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hyderabad...now moved to Bangalore Posts: 172 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	I got them checked only today at Ashoka wheels & was told that it was nothing to worry about. Also I was told that next time I have a doubt, run something like a key onto the cut & only if it goes deep inside then its time to worry. Thanks Ira for the reply.
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15th March 2008, 15:36	#37
Wolffe BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 169 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Am planning to change tyres for my Ikon and from the various forum post here looking like Michelin PP2 is good option. Anyone knows good place to get tyres in chennai Hi Josh,You could try International tyres at Woods road or his brothers shop in Gopalpuram(at the end of the road on the right,going from Chola sheraton).He deals with Michelin.
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20th March 2008, 16:37	#39
Wolffe BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 169 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	No problems.Let us know if you got the wheels.
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12th July 2008, 07:28	#40
docsinghal BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: HP14/CH01/AS03 Posts: 55 Thanked: 263 Times	I am buying the new Ford Fiesta SXi 1.6 (petrol) next week and want to upsize the tires immediately after the purchase. I enquired the local dealer in my city and found that Michelin doesn't make PP2 in the size 195/60 R14. Only PP1 is avaialble for this size (the same is also mentioned on Michelin's India website). However PP2 is available in 185/60 R14. I want to know if there a huge difference between the performance of PP1 and PP2, since I really want to go for the 195/60 R14 size but if the performance difference is big then I think even 185 tread width would do. I have been quoted a price of Rs 4100/- per tire for the PP1, is there a big difference in the price of PP1 and PP2 also? Then there is another part of my brain which says that at a similar price I should go for the XM1+ since they offer better comfort and mileage. I'm really confused. Any suggestions would be welcome.
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12th July 2008, 12:24	#41
razor4077 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,881 Thanked: 300 Times View My Garage	PP2s are super tyres... been using them for a while and am fida on them. I haven't used PP1s, so cannot really compare, but from what many users have said, they are excellent tyres too. I think they will be worth your while. XM1+ would also be a good option, but like you said, they're comfort/mileage-oriented, so you need to figure out your priorities. Having said that, PPs are not uncomfortable tyres by any means - they are super comfy and silent for a performance-oriented tyre. And the Fiesta + PP is a proven combo, as this thread describes
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12th July 2008, 13:59	#42
itwasntme Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 7,717 Thanked: 14,151 Times View My Garage	Hi Doc, I think the main difference between the PP1s and 2s is that traction in wet weather is much improved in the latter. However, PP1s are still very good so it's your call. IMHO, 185 PP2s are better as you will get higher mileage with the narrower tyre (vis-a-vis 195 PP1s) and the difference in wet weather traction will be negligible.
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12th July 2008, 22:08	#43
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,399 Thanked: 1,735 Times View My Garage	What is the smallest size made in Pilot Preceda for 14". Are 165s and 175s also available?
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13th July 2008, 03:20	#44
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 7,997 Thanked: 281 Times View My Garage	185/60 R14 is the smallest size for PP2's in India man!
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