[ChassisChatter]

I recently noticed my Scorpio-N Z8L 4x2 stock tires (MRF Wanderer 255/60 R18) outer sidewall have some wear out. I clocked 20K KM and I had high hopes for their longevity, at least for 40K KM. I must express my disappointment with the premature wear I’ve observed on the outer sidewalls. Within a relatively short period of usage and mostly my 20K KM drive has been on National Highways which is quite concerning. I’ve always been diligent about tire maintenance and alignment, so this unexpected wear is disappointing. While I appreciate the overall performance and grip of these tires, this issue with the outer sidewalls has raised durability concerns for me, escalated this issue with Mahindra SC technical team as expected they did not bothered, and they are advising me to not to take aftermarket wheel alignment and balancing seriously as they don't have Scorpio-N alignment and balancing proper readings. Then I showed them the outer sidewall wear out. Guess what? Yes there is not a single word from them. I will follow up with SC regarding this and keep you guys posted.

I hope that this is not the issue with suspension damping of this SUV. It’s crucial to keep a close eye on this problem. If anybody facing similar problem please be free to discuss. Please find below attached rare tires pictures which is used be as front tires. Thanks

Regards,
Chassis Chatter


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Left Rare tire

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[Shreyans_Jain]

You have specifically posted pics of the rear tires. Is the excessive wear happening only at the back, or is this because these tires used to be in front and have now been swapped?

On the face of it, this looks like a classic case of bad alignment. Never trust service centers for alignment and balancing, no matter what they say. Service centers tend to have faulty alignment machines and incorrect values, across brands. Take your car to any reputed tire shop in your town and get it checked.

[zeng]

You've wheel alignment related 'abnormal' wear, never mind the alignment numbers may be all greens and within oem specification range.

Mind sharing the latest alignment report screenshot?

[ChassisChatter]

Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain

You have specifically posted pics of the rear tires. Is the excessive wear happening only at the back, or is this because these tires used to be in front and have now been swapped?

Hi Shreyans,

Yes, these tires used to be in front and have now been swapped when Alignment is done.

On the face of it, this looks like a classic case of bad alignment. Never trust service centers for alignment and balancing, no matter what they say. Service centers tend to have faulty alignment machines and incorrect values, across brands. Take your car to any reputed tire shop in your town and get it checked.

In total of odometer readings 20,000 KM, for every 5,000 KM I have done alignment and balancing in Bridgestone authorized shop. I have to find out the root cause of this issue. I have seen few of the owners complaining about the same issue in Facebook Scorpio-N group.

[Shreyans_Jain]

Originally Posted by ChassisChatter

Hi Shreyans,

Yes, these tires used to be in front and have now been swapped when Alignment is done.

In total of odometer readings 20,000 KM, for every 5,000 KM I have done alignment and balancing in Bridgestone authorized shop. I have to find out the root cause of this issue. I have seen few of the owners complaining about the same issue in Facebook Scorpio-N group.

Change the tire shop. I am sure you as the driver can identify if the alignment is off while driving. I the car doesn’t steer straight, it needs to be fixed no matter what the report says. Sometimes, an old school manual wheel alignment with thread and weights needs to be done to sort things out.

[ChassisChatter]

Originally Posted by Shreyans_Jain

Change the tire shop. I am sure you as the driver can identify if the alignment is off while driving. I the car doesn’t steer straight, it needs to be fixed no matter what the report says. Sometimes, an old school manual wheel alignment with thread and weights needs to be done to sort things out.

This SUV is mostly driven by our driver, and he has not complained about it. Let me change the shop and see.

Originally Posted by zeng

You've wheel alignment related 'abnormal' wear, never mind the alignment numbers may be all greens and within oem specification range.

Mind sharing the latest alignment report screenshot?

Sure I will try to share the report as it is hard copy report.

[devildriver]

Originally Posted by ChassisChatter

I recently noticed my Scorpio-N Z8L 4x2 stock tires (MRF Wanderer 255/60 R18) outer sidewall have some wear out. I clocked 20K KM and I had high hopes for their longevity, at least for 40K KM. I must express my disappointment with the premature wear I’ve observed on the outer sidewalls. Within a relatively short period of usage and mostly my 20K KM drive has been on National Highways which is quite concerning.

I run Yokohama Geolandar G015 AT 265/65/r17s from day one (Aug 23) on my ScorpioN Z4 4x4.

I missed getting the alignment done till 13000 km post installation. I have noticed higher wear on the outside shoulders of both my front tyres. I've lost almost 3-4 mm of tyre tread on the outer shoulders. I got them aligned, rotated and balanced on Hunter-branded equipment from the same authorised showroom I bought my tyres from at 13000 km and my odo is at 14500 kms as of today. Just after 1500 km post alignment, the now front tyres again exhibit the same pattern of losing tread on the outer shoulders at a much faster rate than the ones at the rear. I doubt if my tyres will last 30-35000 km safely. The steering always has pointed bang on straight till date and never had any handling or pulling issues in the vehicle.

Also, I do take my car offroad on trails atleast once or twice a month and my tyres have been on surfaces comprising of rocks, slush, mud, beach sand (Vizag) and hard surfaced rocky gravel trials that are found near Hyderabad. I've diligently maintained tyre pressure at 32-33 psi. I usually drive at 90-110 kmph on highways and enjoy twisty sections when ever I chance upon them. So I have used my car and its tyres to a pretty high degree of their capabilities and I do not have any performance issues with the car or the tyres, on or off road.

My other friend who has a Z8 L 4x2 Auto has been running on the same stock MRF tyres and guess what, his front wheels have almost completely eroded their outer shoulders at 36,000 km He has used his car only on city roads and highways at decent speeds. Yours have given up way too sooner. Please get the front suspension and steering mechanism checked with Mahindra. They have been retorquing upper control arm bolts, replacing steering columns and alternator pulleys silently without an offical recall. I am happy that they are atleast owning up and doing their part, albeit covertly. So do get in touch with your service center's head of service to check on your vehicle. You have to sit atop their heads at the showroom to get anything done, this is the way.

This first gen ScorpioN is well known to have more than its fair share of issues or niggles with its front and rear suspension, steering column and a few other parts depending on one's luck . I knew the car I was getting and I was mentally prepared to deal with the risk of buying a first gen new platform car from an Indian automotive manufacturer.

[manasr28]

Originally Posted by ChassisChatter

I recently noticed my Scorpio-N Z8L 4x2 stock tires (MRF Wanderer 255/60 R18) outer sidewall have some wear out.

Hi ChassisChatter,

Were you able to find a solution to this ? My Z6 is facing the same problem on front right tyre. The outer edge is wearing out.

The car is on stock Bridgestone ecopia paired with Plati aftermarket alloys (same psd as that of stock alloys) from a reputed tyre shop and wheel balancing done on day 1 of ownership.

The car has done only close to 8 k kms on these tyres and alloys.

The car drives straight fine and does not have any pulling effect.

I am yet to reach out to Mahindra ASC on this.

[zeng]

The solution is to have wheel alignment checked AND re-adjustment done, appropriately.

[Rahkehs]

This is not an isolated problem, it feels many Scorpio-N are suffering from the same issue. Front tyres’ Outer shoulders have worn out in my vehicle too. I used to get the alignment done in Mahindra Workshop earlier, but this time got it done with a Hunter Machine in MRF Tyre Shop and also rotated the tyres from front to back. It’s surprising that rear tyres feel like new.

Now, will wait and review after 2000-3000KMs whether the issue still persists.