Tata Safari : Tyre & wheel upgrade thread

nitrous · 13th September 2009, 21:28

Let him have the bling he desires.
In Ludhiana, 17" is probably a downsize for a safari.

jkdas · 13th September 2009, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by suman

Happy to hear that

. Trust me, even stock size Yokos will give you the ride of your life

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Dont bother upsizing to 17". It is quite useless frankly. Get Michelin or Yoko Geolandars in 235/70 R16 itself. If you simply HAVE to have wider tyres, then go in for 255/65 R16 but you need 7j alloy wheels for that.

Suman; it will be 235's

Quote for 235/70 R16 from New Bharat:

Yoko -5800
Mic-6000

For highway 90% which is best? 5% is for potholes only road

param22k · 13th September 2009, 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

Let him have the bling he desires.
In Ludhiana, 17" is probably a downsize for a safari.

Hehehe. Thats so true!
Another query. Do the wider tyres offer any benefit over the stock sized tyres? Somebody told me once that its better for road grip, but I somehow doubt how much difference that would make.

Nikhilb2008 · 13th September 2009, 22:19

Either one is good. The price difference is minimal. If you are a Michelin fan, go for the Michelin!

jkdas · 14th September 2009, 17:22

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Michelin LTX - Only some dealers have the 235/70 R16, cost is approx 6700
Yokohama ATS - Most commonly available 6150-6300 price range.

Back with more doubts.

I was quoted 5800 and 6000 for Yoko and Michelin respectively; Yoko its ATS and but is it Michelin its LTX/AT2?

- www.michelin.in quotes it at 7k plus!

The quotes I got is ok right? And nitrogen,should I?

And whats the maximum width of alloy one can use for 235 tyres?
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1480901-post1605.html

Thats on stock tyres , but donno alloy width.

tsk1979 · 14th September 2009, 17:40

I dunno if there has been a price drop. Beware of second hand tires though.
Anyways, back from Ladakh after 5000 kms on continental Cross Contact ATs. I would say go for them. Price is around 61-6200 and the simply rock. I took them on the worst trails with the sharpest rocks. The sidewals had lots of impact signs, but no bulging no cutting, and the grip in rock climbing is phenomenal.
Only drawback is that under hard braking in wet conditions they skid a little more than the Bridgestone HTs, but harder AT tires will not offer same grip as comparable HT tires anyways.

However if you are not into hardcore offroading, stick to Trail driving tires like BFG Long Trail TA Tour. They are okay for dirt road driving, and cost around 56-5700

Nikhilb2008 · 14th September 2009, 21:05

The Michelin website quotes MRPs usually. Just do a visual inspection of the tyres and you should be fine. From what I know of NBT, they are decent people.

jkdas · 14th September 2009, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Back with more doubts.

I was quoted 5800 and 6000 for Yoko and Michelin respectively; Yoko its ATS and but is it Michelin its LTX/AT2?

- www.michelin.in quotes it at 7k plus!

The quotes I got is ok right? And nitrogen,should I?

And whats the maximum width of alloy one can use for 235 tyres?
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1480901-post1605.html

Thats on stock tyres , but donno alloy width.

Some comment about this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

I dunno if there has been a price drop. Beware of second hand tires though.
Anyways, back from Ladakh after 5000 kms on continental Cross Contact ATs. I would say go for them. Price is around 61-6200 and the simply rock. I took them on the worst trails with the sharpest rocks. The sidewals had lots of impact signs, but no bulging no cutting, and the grip in rock climbing is phenomenal.
Only drawback is that under hard braking in wet conditions they skid a little more than the Bridgestone HTs, but harder AT tires will not offer same grip as comparable HT tires anyways.

However if you are not into hardcore offroading, stick to Trail driving tires like BFG Long Trail TA Tour. They are okay for dirt road driving, and cost around 56-5700

Dont think this is available here. Its should be Yoko or Mich. I do highway mostly but its pot holed 3/4 of an year and this make me vote for Yoko for now. Lets see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

The Michelin website quotes MRPs usually. Just do a visual inspection of the tyres and you should be fine. From what I know of NBT, they are decent people.

If you think the price they quoted is good, I will get from them else from shop at Coc as I have to drive to Shertala now and then.

Nikhilb2008 · 14th September 2009, 23:36

I think minimum rim width for 235/70 R16 is 6j.

Continentals are easily available in Kerala. Just walk in there and ask for a quotation.

toms_2191 · 21st September 2009, 23:13

Quote for 235/70 R16 from New Bharat:

Yoko -5800
Mic-6000

For highway 90% which is best? 5% is for potholes only road

have you checked in Cochin? normally there is a difference of Rs.100 - 200 / Tyre between TVM and CHN. if you are buying Michelin go to Westend tyres in Panampally nagar. they are the Distributors of Michelin and i have experienced a good difference from new bharat (PIT STOP) when i bought Michelin PP2.

jkdas · 25th September 2009, 14:30

After I ate heads of Nikhil, nitrous, kpzen, suman; I went (they are being loaded as I type) for Yokohama Geolander ATS 235/70 R16

The pix show my new tyres and old ones. My odo read 47800kms now. Two of my OE Bridgestone are quite good as seen in the picture. The issue is one has got a slight cut (had posted about this earlier).

I got four tires at 5800/tyre and will be filling in Nitrogen.

Another photo shows ATS vs HTS. The pix should clearly show HTS isnt suited for my ride; check the side wall.

ACM · 23rd October 2009, 14:46

Is there a recommend tyre for TCIC safari with Neo hulk alloys. R15 J6.5

Currently have Bridgestone Duellers 235/75/R15
Want the tyres for a smooth and safe Highway ride, with occational road shoulder drive to get pass trucks lined up across the road on the highway. No serous off roading expected. Good bit of high speed wet drive.

Again for the Duellers? or try Yoko HT.

Price? Looks?

ACM · 27th October 2009, 18:28

Any suggestions on my previous post??

Nikhilb2008 · 27th October 2009, 18:45

Go for the Yoko Geolandars. Very very good tyres.

AVR · 29th October 2009, 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACM

Is there a recommend tyre for TCIC safari with Neo hulk alloys. R15 J6.5

Currently have Bridgestone Duellers 235/75/R15
Want the tyres for a smooth and safe Highway ride, with occational road shoulder drive to get pass trucks lined up across the road on the highway. No serous off roading expected. Good bit of high speed wet drive.

Again for the Duellers? or try Yoko HT.

Price? Looks?

I fitted Yokohama A/T on my TCIC few months back and they are pretty good. Worth considering. Not sure about the Yoko H/T? Haven't seen/heard about them either.

13th September 2009, 21:28	#271
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 329 Times View My Garage	Let him have the bling he desires. In Ludhiana, 17" is probably a downsize for a safari.
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13th September 2009, 22:19	#274
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	Either one is good. The price difference is minimal. If you are a Michelin fan, go for the Michelin!
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14th September 2009, 17:40	#276
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,725 Thanked: 23,018 Times View My Garage	I dunno if there has been a price drop. Beware of second hand tires though. Anyways, back from Ladakh after 5000 kms on continental Cross Contact ATs. I would say go for them. Price is around 61-6200 and the simply rock. I took them on the worst trails with the sharpest rocks. The sidewals had lots of impact signs, but no bulging no cutting, and the grip in rock climbing is phenomenal. Only drawback is that under hard braking in wet conditions they skid a little more than the Bridgestone HTs, but harder AT tires will not offer same grip as comparable HT tires anyways. However if you are not into hardcore offroading, stick to Trail driving tires like BFG Long Trail TA Tour. They are okay for dirt road driving, and cost around 56-5700
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14th September 2009, 21:05	#277
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	The Michelin website quotes MRPs usually. Just do a visual inspection of the tyres and you should be fine. From what I know of NBT, they are decent people.
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14th September 2009, 23:36	#279
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	I think minimum rim width for 235/70 R16 is 6j. Continentals are easily available in Kerala. Just walk in there and ask for a quotation.
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21st September 2009, 23:13	#280
toms_2191 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kannur/Calicut Posts: 136 Thanked: 40 Times	Quote for 235/70 R16 from New Bharat: Yoko -5800 Mic-6000 For highway 90% which is best? 5% is for potholes only road have you checked in Cochin? normally there is a difference of Rs.100 - 200 / Tyre between TVM and CHN. if you are buying Michelin go to Westend tyres in Panampally nagar. they are the Distributors of Michelin and i have experienced a good difference from new bharat (PIT STOP) when i bought Michelin PP2.
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25th September 2009, 14:30	#281
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Yokohama ATS 235/70 R16 frm Speed Tyres, Cochin After I ate heads of Nikhil, nitrous, kpzen, suman; I went (they are being loaded as I type) for Yokohama Geolander ATS 235/70 R16 The pix show my new tyres and old ones. My odo read 47800kms now. Two of my OE Bridgestone are quite good as seen in the picture. The issue is one has got a slight cut (had posted about this earlier). I got four tires at 5800/tyre and will be filling in Nitrogen. Another photo shows ATS vs HTS. The pix should clearly show HTS isnt suited for my ride; check the side wall. Attached Thumbnails
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23rd October 2009, 14:46	#282
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,751 Thanked: 4,379 Times View My Garage	Is there a recommend tyre for TCIC safari with Neo hulk alloys. R15 J6.5 Currently have Bridgestone Duellers 235/75/R15 Want the tyres for a smooth and safe Highway ride, with occational road shoulder drive to get pass trucks lined up across the road on the highway. No serous off roading expected. Good bit of high speed wet drive. Again for the Duellers? or try Yoko HT. Price? Looks?
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27th October 2009, 18:28	#283
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,751 Thanked: 4,379 Times View My Garage	Any suggestions on my previous post??
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27th October 2009, 18:45	#284
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,152 Times	Go for the Yoko Geolandars. Very very good tyres.
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