Onboard Tyre pressure sensors

Nikhilb2008 · 13th June 2009, 16:33

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

In american/european countries, they are there to save careless idiots from themselves , and more importantly, to the car manufacturer, to reduce their liablity - Sort of like the warnings on the starbucks coffee that it is hot

. In addition, its much harder to tell if the air is low on low profile tyres used abroad. Not so much with the 80 ~65 profile tyres the majority of indians drive.

Question : Won't the wheels need to be rebalanced after adding these sensors ?

The wheels will need to be rebalanced. But even if you dont, the imbalance is very very small. These things are quite light.

ajayr · 15th June 2009, 12:20

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Originally Posted by ajayr

Just bought tyre pressure monitor valve caps off ebay: eBay India: Tire Pressure Monitor Valve Stem Caps 30 PSI (item 300316395671 end time 19-Jun-2009 07:34:37 IST)

Will post a review as soon as I get them.

Got them last week. Initial impression is good. Filled air till 30psi and installed these caps. So far, the display is green indicating that there hasn't been significant loss of air yet. The caps are supposed to turn yellow when there is a loss of about 4-5 psi and red when there is a loss of about 10 psi.

Spitfire · 15th June 2009, 12:36

Why only 4 sensors? What about the spare tyre? Do they provide an extra sensor? The pictures on tyre probe show only 4.

Nikhilb2008 · 15th June 2009, 12:52

It is only 4. In all the cases I have seen(even imported cars) there are only 4 sensors. Nothing for the spare tyre.

Spitfire · 15th June 2009, 13:38

So if there is a puncture then one tyre goes sensorless. Also rotating tyres would be a pain, so both above would require a run to the sensor dealer each time.

How is this problem tackled on the Scorpio? The new ones come with some similiar sensors.

No idea about imported or abroad stuff.

paharish · 17th June 2009, 13:33

I am also looking for TPMS system for my SX4. Checked with one dealer for TyreProbe, price is Rs. 7,900..in Bangalore. I read about similar systems from Xenos, Tiredog and WAECO. Any idea where can we get it in Bangalore.

ajayr · 24th June 2009, 10:15

Do we get TPMS systems in which the sensor is actually a valve cap? I saw systems like these in eBay: Wireless TPMS Car Tire Pressure Monitor System Sensors:eBay Motors (item 160344010604 end time Jul-23-09 00:47:12 PDT) (From Tyredog).

Are there any disadvantages with such systems (apart from the obvious one of the possibility of loosing the sensor) when compared to the one that Tyreprobe sells (in which the sensor is placed inside the tyre? Installation of these sensor valve caps would be a simple matter and also it wouldn't be a pain while rotating tyres.

Are they available in India? Any dealer in Bangalore? Approx. price?

paharish · 29th June 2009, 16:34

[quote=ajayr;1360141]Do we get TPMS systems in which the sensor is actually a valve cap? I saw systems like these in eBay: Wireless TPMS Car Tire Pressure Monitor System Sensors:eBay Motors (item 160344010604 end time Jul-23-09 00:47:12 PDT) (From Tyredog).

I think Petes have it. Try out this link..
Pete's Automotive Products Pvt Limited

Not sure about the price.

the_maassk · 29th June 2009, 17:35

The ones at Pete's are valve caps with color codes and not the ones which are wireless and have a base station to relay data to.

gd1418 · 30th June 2009, 13:07

I've an aftermarket TPMS system installed in my Scorpio, that costed me 10K (set of 4 sensors).

I've not taken its snap, so can't post it here. But as soon as I do, shall post. It is fairly accurate and did warn me of lowering temp and pressure on my visit to leh-ladakh.

gd1418 · 30th June 2009, 13:10

The manual of the TPMS that I've on my Scorpio mentione something about tyre rotation. I haven't read it in detail.

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

So if there is a puncture then one tyre goes sensorless. Also rotating tyres would be a pain, so both above would require a run to the sensor dealer each time.

How is this problem tackled on the Scorpio? The new ones come with some similiar sensors.

No idea about imported or abroad stuff.

paharish · 1st July 2009, 17:07

gd1418 - Could you please update the make and model of your TPMS.

ada · 2nd July 2009, 16:17

Went to tyreprobe site, TYREPROBE , seems decent enough. For tire rotation there are various modes suggested in the manual (manual is available for download). Any one of the modes will take care of the same. I guess if somebody is moving around 130 + , TPMS is important.

wildon · 2nd August 2009, 07:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

The wheels will need to be rebalanced. But even if you dont, the imbalance is very very small. These things are quite light.

Is the 8k price for Tyreprobe in Bangalore includes the fitting? and what about the charge for Wheel balancing?

Does they do it along with it

Sportsmind · 12th August 2009, 14:10

Finally got my TPMS fitted yesterday at Madhus. 7800 for the setup, and a new refill of nitrogen. Got the whole install done in less than 30 minutes. felt as though i was in the pitstop...lol.
There is a +- of 1 psi on the monitor. I guess this is normal. Feels much secure on the wheels knowing things are going fine below, when cruising at 120-140. A must for todays drives.Cheers

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Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,313 Thanked: 778 Times	Why only 4 sensors? What about the spare tyre? Do they provide an extra sensor? The pictures on tyre probe show only 4.
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Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,195 Thanked: 10,177 Times	It is only 4. In all the cases I have seen(even imported cars) there are only 4 sensors. Nothing for the spare tyre.
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Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,313 Thanked: 778 Times	So if there is a puncture then one tyre goes sensorless. Also rotating tyres would be a pain, so both above would require a run to the sensor dealer each time. How is this problem tackled on the Scorpio? The new ones come with some similiar sensors. No idea about imported or abroad stuff.
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17th June 2009, 13:33	#36
paharish Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11 Thanked: 0 Times	I am also looking for TPMS system for my SX4. Checked with one dealer for TyreProbe, price is Rs. 7,900..in Bangalore. I read about similar systems from Xenos, Tiredog and WAECO. Any idea where can we get it in Bangalore.
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24th June 2009, 10:15	#37
ajayr BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 94 Thanked: 19 Times	Do we get TPMS systems in which the sensor is actually a valve cap? I saw systems like these in eBay: Wireless TPMS Car Tire Pressure Monitor System Sensors:eBay Motors (item 160344010604 end time Jul-23-09 00:47:12 PDT) (From Tyredog). Are there any disadvantages with such systems (apart from the obvious one of the possibility of loosing the sensor) when compared to the one that Tyreprobe sells (in which the sensor is placed inside the tyre? Installation of these sensor valve caps would be a simple matter and also it wouldn't be a pain while rotating tyres. Are they available in India? Any dealer in Bangalore? Approx. price?
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29th June 2009, 16:34	#38
paharish Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11 Thanked: 0 Times	[quote=ajayr;1360141]Do we get TPMS systems in which the sensor is actually a valve cap? I saw systems like these in eBay: Wireless TPMS Car Tire Pressure Monitor System Sensors:eBay Motors (item 160344010604 end time Jul-23-09 00:47:12 PDT) (From Tyredog). I think Petes have it. Try out this link.. Pete's Automotive Products Pvt Limited Not sure about the price.
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29th June 2009, 17:35	#39
the_maassk BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Vadodara/ NG7 2QP Posts: 205 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	The ones at Pete's are valve caps with color codes and not the ones which are wireless and have a base station to relay data to.
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30th June 2009, 13:07	#40
gd1418 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,577 Thanked: 729 Times View My Garage	I've an aftermarket TPMS system installed in my Scorpio, that costed me 10K (set of 4 sensors). I've not taken its snap, so can't post it here. But as soon as I do, shall post. It is fairly accurate and did warn me of lowering temp and pressure on my visit to leh-ladakh.
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1st July 2009, 17:07	#42
paharish Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11 Thanked: 0 Times	gd1418 - Could you please update the make and model of your TPMS.
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2nd July 2009, 16:17	#43
ada BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 189 Thanked: 65 Times	Went to tyreprobe site, TYREPROBE , seems decent enough. For tire rotation there are various modes suggested in the manual (manual is available for download). Any one of the modes will take care of the same. I guess if somebody is moving around 130 + , TPMS is important.
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12th August 2009, 14:10	#45
Sportsmind BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 399 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	Finally got my TPMS fitted yesterday at Madhus. 7800 for the setup, and a new refill of nitrogen. Got the whole install done in less than 30 minutes. felt as though i was in the pitstop...lol. There is a +- of 1 psi on the monitor. I guess this is normal. Feels much secure on the wheels knowing things are going fine below, when cruising at 120-140. A must for todays drives.Cheers . Last edited by Sportsmind : 12th August 2009 at 14:13.
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