[abhibh]

Well i just got it confirmed for the dealer. There is difference between XM1 and Energy XM1. There is also price difference as he says. XM1 Rs. 2300 per tyre and Rs. 3000 for Energy XM1..

Is this true Energy XM1 owners regarding the price....

[Vid6639]

Michelin Tyres for Passenger car when quaility counts

Michelin Australia

* denotes XM1 with no energy green silica compound.

[esteem_lover]

145/70/13 - Energy XM1 - for WagonR - Rs.2,230
175/70/13 - Energy XM1 - for Esteem - Rs.2,630

Both the above tyres do not contain silica. If the same size of tyres were to be silica based, the price would be at least 30% more.
cheers

[iraghava]

Originally Posted by abhibh

Well i just got it confirmed for the dealer. There is difference between XM1 and Energy XM1. There is also price difference as he says. XM1 Rs. 2300 per tyre and Rs. 3000 for Energy XM1..

What size are you talking about?

[rks]

Originally Posted by akroy

Checked out Suzuki Japan website and found that Alto sells in abroad with 155/65R13 as stock and I did some analysis on tyre bible and the error was 0.95% which is absolutely nothing. Definitely Suspension will not take any beating if I change to 13". I fail to understand MUL selling on 12"? Why cost cutting on the footwear...Ok, 13" means I need to change rims as well so why not Alloys?

The Altos abroad usually have 1.1 lit engine and that could be one possible reason. I also heard (don't remember the source) that Maruti went for 145/80 R12 because the lower profile tyres were bending the 13" rims on bad roads. It seems the rim-bending problem was solved with 80 profile tyres on 12" rims. I don't know how far this is true; I had the impression that smaller rims were more prone to bending. The roads are good in foreign countries, which means this fix would not have been needed.

With the low profile tyres, my suggestion is do not reduce pressure below 30 psi. You can go for higher pressure depending on the roads and your driving style/preferences.

On Michelins versus Bridgestone it depends on the roads. On good roads, I would definitely not hesitate go for Michelins. But on bad potholed roads, e.g. the kind that we see in Pune/Mumbai and the Pune-Mumbai route, I would prefer Bridgestone S322 tubeless tyres (S-rated, good enough for Santro or Alto). The reason Bridgestone does not want to manufacture/sell its latest tyres in India probably has a lot to do with the bad roads here. The performance tyres with soft rubber may not last on our roads and hence may bomb at the Indian market.

Regarding kpzen's query, I saw it at the following website:

The Hindu : Metro Plus Kochi / Wheels : VIRTUAL MECHANIC

I have a Maruti Zen and an Alto. Both these cars have the same tyres (145/80-R12) but the recommended tyre pressure for the Zen is 24psi while it is 30psi for the Alto, even though they weigh almost the same. Why do both cars, almost identical, have different tyre pressures for the same tyre size?
Ashish Kumar, via email

Thirty psi for the Alto is for a fully loaded vehicle, which is the same for a fully-loaded Zen as well. 24psi is the pressure generally for a vehicle driven alone or with two passengers.

Don't know if this is the correct answer.

[akroy]

Originally Posted by rks

With the low profile tyres, my suggestion is do not reduce pressure below 30 psi. You can go for higher pressure depending on the roads and your driving style/preferences.

Yes Sir, I plan to keep 30 for city and 32-33psi for highway drives with full load...

Abhi

[abhibh]

Originally Posted by iraghava

What size are you talking about?

14" dunno hw much is this true but he is the only michelin dealer here...

[iraghava]

Originally Posted by abhibh

14" dunno hw much is this true but he is the only michelin dealer here...

There are multiple widths & profiles combos avialable in 14", which particular one? You can't expect a 175/65 R14 to be priced the same as a 195/60 R14 can you?

[n_aditya]

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

145/70/13 - Energy XM1 - for WagonR - Rs.2,230 ; 175/70/13 - Energy XM1 - for Esteem - Rs.2,630

Both the above tyres do not contain silica. If the same size of tyres were to be silica based, the price would be at least 30% more.
cheers

The above ones arent the Energy series esteem lover. they are normal michelin XM1's. I wanted energy series 175/70/13 for my esteem but they were available only from 185 onwards. i checked with the dealer again few weeks back and the energy series was still available only in 185 size onwards. BTW if it says energy series it means its got silica. So the above prices are correct considering they arent energy series and have NO silica.

[DieselFan]

Energy series contain Silica and are available in sizes 14" and above. Not available for 13". Please see the table on the right hand side in the link below - Michelin Australia

[filcord]

I have just put Michelin XM1 185/70r13 on my Baleno. They are not the Energy series, and do not have Energy written on the sidewall. According to the brochure Energy series starts only with 14" tyres.
Paid 3640/- each in Goa.

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by filcord

I have just put Michelin XM1 185/70r13 on my Baleno. They are not the Energy series, and do not have Energy written on the sidewall. According to the brochure Energy series starts only with 14" tyres.
Paid 3640/- each in Goa.

Congrats filcord...!! Nice choice.
But i would say the Michelins are very costly in Goa.

[filcord]

Originally Posted by kpzen

But i would say the Michelins are very costly in Goa.

How much is this in your area? Just check that it is for the same size.

[kpzen]

Originally Posted by filcord

How much is this in your area? Just check that it is for the same size.

I recently got 195/60-14 Michelin Energy XM1 for Rs 3600 per tyre.

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

My tyres have energy printed on them & they are 13 inches. i dont think it has silica content either.

The thing about silica is that it gives you 2 things.
1. Better grip in the wet. (a rain tire wil have plenty of silica) and also
2. Better rolling resistance for better fuel economy. So an energy series tire may pay for itself in the long run.