Best set of tyres?

vnabhi · 22nd May 2009, 17:10

Guys, what is the best set of tyres for a Sonata Embera? The Hankook stock tyres have completed 55K kms, and my pal wants to change them.
I suggested Michellin PP, but I believe each tyre costs 9500 K, whereas a GoodYear costs 7500 K.
I told him to try Ashoka Wheels and limit his choice to Michellin or Bridgestone. What say, gurus?

Nikhilb2008 · 22nd May 2009, 17:42

Could you tell the size of the tyre? I dont remember it off the top of my head.

I assume by goodyear you mean goodyear Eagle F1? In that case, it is no competition for the PP at all.

PP2 is simply in a different league when it comes to overall ability. I would suggest the PP2 in a heartbeat.

If he finds PP2 too expensive, then he can look at the Primacy series. They are also very good. They dont grip like the PP2s, but have better life and comfort.

He can look at Yokohama AVS series also for that price.

vnabhi · 24th May 2009, 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Could you tell the size of the tyre? I dont remember it off the top of my head.

I assume by goodyear you mean goodyear Eagle F1? In that case, it is no competition for the PP at all.

PP2 is simply in a different league when it comes to overall ability. I would suggest the PP2 in a heartbeat.

If he finds PP2 too expensive, then he can look at the Primacy series. They are also very good. They dont grip like the PP2s, but have better life and comfort.

He can look at Yokohama AVS series also for that price.

Thanks! He's decided to go for Michelin---either XM1 or PP2. He got 2 quotes for it---Rs 9100 per tyre from one guy, and Rs 8900 from another.

Hurrycane12 · 29th May 2009, 18:45

Changed my Baleno Tyres to Continental CPC2 195/60 R 14; thanks Nikhil for your help.

aniyahr · 3rd June 2009, 21:14

I recently upgraded tyres on my new Indica Vista..
It had Good year 175/65 R14 and I upgraded it to 185/65 R14 Michelin Energy XM 1+,

But the recommended upgrade on the michelin website is 185/60 R14. I went for 185/65 because i was worried about the further decrease in the ground clearance of Vista which doesn't have a safe ground clearance for Indian roads in the first place.

I request you all to tell me whether my upgrade will harm the car in anyway? What problems I can expect?
Would be very grateful if any of you can reply..

4RANSM · 5th June 2009, 11:51

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Originally Posted by aniyahr

I recently upgraded tyres on my new Indica Vista..
It had Good year 175/65 R14 and I upgraded it to 185/65 R14 Michelin Energy XM 1+,

But the recommended upgrade on the michelin website is 185/60 R14. I went for 185/65 because i was worried about the further decrease in the ground clearance of Vista which doesn't have a safe ground clearance for Indian roads in the first place.

I request you all to tell me whether my upgrade will harm the car in anyway? What problems I can expect?
Would be very grateful if any of you can reply..

It'll just affect your speedo.

Results for your selected 175/65/14
Rolling Radius291.55mmCircumference1831.86mmDiameter583.1m mWheel Cover SizeSize 001Results for your selected 185/65/14Rolling Radius298.05mmCircumference1872.7mmDiameter596.1mm Wheel Cover SizeSize 001Differences between Wheel/Tyre 175 & 185Rolling Radius6.5mmCircumference40.84mmDiameter13mmWhen your speedo reads 100km/hr you're actually at 102.18 km/hr

aniyahr · 5th June 2009, 21:02

Thanks a lot for the info RANSM..

HNarula · 28th June 2009, 22:46

Hi, I have bought YOKOHAMA A DRIVES 195/60/R 15 for my fusion . Feels nice switching from Stock goodyears. But I am bit skeptical. I read the JD power Awards ratings for TYres and felt YOKOHAMA presence is not there in a big way. And they just exist in the passenger car category dat too at same position at goodyears. The michelins steal the show in Passenger, Luxury & Truck category and lose only to GOODYEAR in performance sports category. Surpisingly no indian brands there ( JK CLAIMS TO HAVE GOT THAT AWARD) but no indian brands on that site. And goodyear has consistent 3 star ratings in all categories.except 5 star in performance. So i can say my previous goodyears aren't all that bad. KEEPING fingers crossed on YOKOHAMA, I've put my money on it. FOLOW JD POWER HERE

PS. Rs. 3800 per tyre.

GTO · 29th June 2009, 10:38

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

I assume by goodyear you mean goodyear Eagle F1? In that case, it is no competition for the PP at all.

PP2 is simply in a different league when it comes to overall ability. I would suggest the PP2 in a heartbeat.

+1 to this statement. Further to my Eagle F1 short experience:

- The Eagle F1's performance worsened after 10,000 kms and were absolutely gone by 25,000 kms.

On the same car (C220):

- The PP2s have crossed 26,000 kms of hard running and grip levels still safe at high speed.

Net net, the Michelins still offer sufficient grip, at the same age in the same car, that the Eagle F1's were destroyed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HNarula

I read the JD power Awards ratings for TYres and felt YOKOHAMA presence is not there in a big way.FOLOW JD POWER HERE

JD Quality is rubbish. They are very biased and are funded by the very companies that they rate.

Samurai · 29th June 2009, 12:22

I would give the local meteorological department more credibility than J.D powers.

HNarula · 29th June 2009, 23:13

So u mean i have not comitted any mistake by choosing yokohama over goodyear and bridgestone and michelin and other indian stuff. Can the experts shed some light on it. Or will the time will only tell me. Have someone weared the A drives out. Can you tell me how many miles wid that rubber.

Samurai · 30th June 2009, 00:19

No, you have not committed any mistake. I have had Yokohama in my former Baleno, and my current Current Grand Vitara. I am also considering Yokohama for my Jeep now.

If you want real tyre survey, forget J.D.Powers nonsense and go here: Customer Tire Survey

tapabrata · 26th August 2009, 16:32

Please provide some inputs about Pirelli Aquamile p400 in Honda city zx with steel rims... I have not got any feedback on Pirelli from any of you experts so far!!!

Buffetfan · 23rd September 2009, 01:06

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Since you have stock steel rims, I suggest you go for tubetype tyres from either MRF or Bridgestone. Stick to the stock size as upsizing will not give you any major benefits unless you upgrade your rims to alloys and then get tubeless Michelin or something.

Nikhil,
I ran our Santro Xing on stock rims for 1.5 years 165/65R13 Gyear Tubeless tyres w/o any isssues. I know the upsize is almost an overkill for the 4j rims but did seem to work well.

I also used Michelin MXTE 155/80R13 (wrong upsize..but in 2002 I did not know any better :( ) on my old Uno with bent rusty rims..

I did not have any issues..

now the Santro has alloys..but the reasons were more cosmetic in nature!

Buffetfan · 23rd September 2009, 01:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by HNarula

Hi, I have bought YOKOHAMA A DRIVES 195/60/R 15 for my fusion . Feels nice switching from Stock goodyears. But I am bit skeptical. I read the JD power Awards ratings for TYres and felt YOKOHAMA presence is not there in a big way. And they just exist in the passenger car category dat too at same position at goodyears. The michelins steal the show in Passenger, Luxury & Truck category and lose only to GOODYEAR in performance sports category. Surpisingly no indian brands there ( JK CLAIMS TO HAVE GOT THAT AWARD) but no indian brands on that site. And goodyear has consistent 3 star ratings in all categories.except 5 star in performance. So i can say my previous goodyears aren't all that bad. KEEPING fingers crossed on YOKOHAMA, I've put my money on it. FOLOW JD POWER HERE

PS. Rs. 3800 per tyre.

I bought C.Drives for my Innova. Do not seem any worse then the that Energy XM1s that I have on m Baleno. I know it is not apples to apples..but still believe that the C.Drive feel grippier.

View Poll Results: Best set of tyres? - In India.
Goodyear	72	9.13%
Pirelli	35	4.44%
Michelin	256	32.45%
Bridgestone	232	29.40%
Falkens	7	0.89%
BF Goodrich	12	1.52%
Mrf	35	4.44%
Ceat	3	0.38%
Yokohama	111	14.07%
Dunlop	5	0.63%
JK Tyre	5	0.63%
Apollo Tyres	16	2.03%
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22nd May 2009, 17:10	#631
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,980 Thanked: 2,409 Times View My Garage	Guys, what is the best set of tyres for a Sonata Embera? The Hankook stock tyres have completed 55K kms, and my pal wants to change them. I suggested Michellin PP, but I believe each tyre costs 9500 K, whereas a GoodYear costs 7500 K. I told him to try Ashoka Wheels and limit his choice to Michellin or Bridgestone. What say, gurus?
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22nd May 2009, 17:42	#632
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,198 Thanked: 10,161 Times	Could you tell the size of the tyre? I dont remember it off the top of my head. I assume by goodyear you mean goodyear Eagle F1? In that case, it is no competition for the PP at all. PP2 is simply in a different league when it comes to overall ability. I would suggest the PP2 in a heartbeat. If he finds PP2 too expensive, then he can look at the Primacy series. They are also very good. They dont grip like the PP2s, but have better life and comfort. He can look at Yokohama AVS series also for that price.
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29th May 2009, 18:45	#634
Hurrycane12 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Puttur Posts: 459 Thanked: 56 Times View My Garage	Changed my Baleno Tyres to Continental CPC2 195/60 R 14; thanks Nikhil for your help.
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3rd June 2009, 21:14	#635
aniyahr BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 32 Thanked: 17 Times	I recently upgraded tyres on my new Indica Vista.. It had Good year 175/65 R14 and I upgraded it to 185/65 R14 Michelin Energy XM 1+, But the recommended upgrade on the michelin website is 185/60 R14. I went for 185/65 because i was worried about the further decrease in the ground clearance of Vista which doesn't have a safe ground clearance for Indian roads in the first place. I request you all to tell me whether my upgrade will harm the car in anyway? What problems I can expect? Would be very grateful if any of you can reply..
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5th June 2009, 21:02	#637
aniyahr BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 32 Thanked: 17 Times	Thanks a lot for the info RANSM..
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28th June 2009, 22:46	#638
HNarula Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NEW DELHI Posts: 7 Thanked: 0 Times	Reg. YOKOHAMAs Hi, I have bought YOKOHAMA A DRIVES 195/60/R 15 for my fusion . Feels nice switching from Stock goodyears. But I am bit skeptical. I read the JD power Awards ratings for TYres and felt YOKOHAMA presence is not there in a big way. And they just exist in the passenger car category dat too at same position at goodyears. The michelins steal the show in Passenger, Luxury & Truck category and lose only to GOODYEAR in performance sports category. Surpisingly no indian brands there ( JK CLAIMS TO HAVE GOT THAT AWARD) but no indian brands on that site. And goodyear has consistent 3 star ratings in all categories.except 5 star in performance. So i can say my previous goodyears aren't all that bad. KEEPING fingers crossed on YOKOHAMA, I've put my money on it. FOLOW JD POWER HERE PS. Rs. 3800 per tyre.
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29th June 2009, 12:22	#640
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,971 Thanked: 47,654 Times View My Garage	I would give the local meteorological department more credibility than J.D powers.
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29th June 2009, 23:13	#641
HNarula Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NEW DELHI Posts: 7 Thanked: 0 Times	have i comitted any mistake.. So u mean i have not comitted any mistake by choosing yokohama over goodyear and bridgestone and michelin and other indian stuff. Can the experts shed some light on it. Or will the time will only tell me. Have someone weared the A drives out. Can you tell me how many miles wid that rubber.
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30th June 2009, 00:19	#642
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,971 Thanked: 47,654 Times View My Garage	No, you have not committed any mistake. I have had Yokohama in my former Baleno, and my current Current Grand Vitara. I am also considering Yokohama for my Jeep now. If you want real tyre survey, forget J.D.Powers nonsense and go here: Customer Tire Survey
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26th August 2009, 16:32	#643
tapabrata Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kolkata Posts: 7 Thanked: 0 Times	Please provide some inputs about Pirelli Aquamile p400 in Honda city zx with steel rims... I have not got any feedback on Pirelli from any of you experts so far!!!
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