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Originally Posted by automachine I checked with the tyre shop and they asked me to put in the same air pressure of 32psi as it was with stock tyre. Also I have noticed the ride is now getting better with less lateral movement during quick steering. I had a long highway trip and I can say the road grip is good and even during hard brake the car does not skid or let the ABS kick in early. So overall I am happy with the purchase even though I would stick to stock ratings next time. |
automachine,
My recommendation would be to check the load ratings of the stock tyres and also the new tyres and calculate the required pressure.
Is an indicative calculation, most 185/60R15 tyres have a load rating of "84" whereas most 185/65R15 tyres have a load rating of "88".
These ratings of 84 & 88 translate to 500Kg & 560Kg Max Loads respectively.
Assuming that the max inflation pressures of both tyres is the same, the required pressure would be:
Toyota Recommended Pressure x 500 / 560
So if Toyota recommends 32 PSI for the Original tyre, accommodating for the slightly increased sidewall, you should run 29 PSI on the new 185/65R15 tyres. (32x500/560 = ~28.6PSI).
I would also encourage you to please read the post linked below:
Calculating Required Tyre Pressure Quote:
Originally Posted by IPathan Installing tyres with diameter larger than your (OE) tyres you will also get incorrect speed reading. In this case your tyre upsize will show 3% less speed than actual eg. You will see 100km/hr on speedometer however your actual speed will be 103km/hr at 120km/hr actual 124km/hr and at 140km/hr actual 145km/hr - I know in India speed limit is not strictly followed nor fines levied however its always good to know that you are faster than what your speedometer tells you  |
IPathan,
In reality, the speedo is normally more accurate with the larger tyre than with the stock tyre. All car manufacturers are legally required to ensure that the speedo does not under-report the speed (vehicle traveling faster than shown by the speedo). Due to this
EVERY car is set to ALWAYS OVER-REPORT the speed. Although not with lab level accuracy, this is very easily tested with a smartphone that has a GPS based Speed App.
With own verification, I can confirm that the Skoda Superb & Skoda Octavia Over-Report Speed somewhere between 4-5%, a Toyota Innova by just over 4%, a BMW 5 Series by a little over 2% and a Hyundai Elantra by about 7% (yes, seven %). I have found the Mercedes to be the most accurate of the lot at just UNDER 2%.
In fact, the calibration is normally such that the error is greater at low speeds and lesser at higher speeds (yes, I've triple checked what I've typed).
For example, my Skoda shod with 235/45R18 front tyres (~5.82% larger than the stock 205/55R16 size) under-reports the actual speed by about 0.5Km/h at a speed of 80 (i.e. show 80Km/h on the Speedo while actually going about 80.5Km/h based on a GPS reading), whereas at 200Km/h on the speedo the car is actually going ~203Km/h based on a GPS reading.
Check this out:
Skoda Superb with Larger Tyres Quote:
Originally Posted by arjithin I also find my steering to be way harder compared to stock tire even though i didnt upsize and keeping the same pressure. I took car to the tire dealer and they plainly washed their hand saying its a car issue (even though they made a claim of lighter steering before sale).
I took 2 long drives of 1200 km each within 6 weeks of tire upgrade, the harder steering caused a shoulder pain for me in both the drives (which never occurred earlier in the same routes which I cover 6+ times in an year).
I am kind of clueless on what to do now.
But I must appreciate, ride is much smoother and silent now. |
arjithin,
I'd have to agree with the tyre dealer here because there is really no reason for the same tyre size to affect the steering in a perceivable manner.
Do confirm if you have changed the wheels? I have seen people change to alloys with substantially different offsets to the original wheels which obviously causes a change in the track length and exponentially increases the load on the steering system.