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Originally Posted by invincible7 You case seems to be very different though, just curious to know do you regularly keep a check on tyre pressure and wheel alignment/balancing at regular service times. |
Tyre pressures are checked regularly - which is aided by the fact that we have a portable hand-held compressor in each car.
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Originally Posted by swarnava.m Agreed!! I had JK Tyres on my Alto, and experienced the exact same issues. Though this happened after 60k km, so it was time to change them anyways. But I had the same problem of the tyre swelling up along the circumference, and it also split along the tread, which used to make the car jump on one side. |
In your case at 60K kms, the tyre has put in enough service and I would not really bother whether it swelled or retracted, but in my case it was ~20K kms, which is too low for a tyre to go bad.
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Originally Posted by SS-Traveller |
Hmm, that was a wierd way of tyre failure - again JK Vectras !!
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Originally Posted by Acclero I have seen a similar problem in my friends car the issue was caused due to - prolonged non-usage of car. |
While our usage is indeed low by general standards, it is not like the car stays rooted at the same spot for days - it is used regularly but each trip is around 10kms max. Long runs are rare - once/twice a month or so.
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Originally Posted by souravc Ditto here . I had JK Vectras on my Swift ZXi , out of the 4 tyres there was tyre failure in two . The way they happened convinced me that JK Tyres are really crapped . The outer layer of the tyres just peeled off . The tyres had done 32-33K kms , mostly city driving. I will never touch a JK tyre again |
Your failure seems same as what SS-Traveller experienced with his tyres.
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Originally Posted by Harbir Please don't assume that just because its tubeless, it will deflate slowly and allow you to drive on. It is much more likely to do so than a tubed tyre, but it can also go just as suddenly as a tubed tyre and be wrecked if it happens. |
True. And the part in Bold is what I meant.
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Originally Posted by rajeev k Me too had it. My 2005 Swift's JK Vectras failed at 30K Kms and had changed two tyres and out of the remaining three two best was doing duty upfront till 33K. One tyre gave me a bumpy ride between Calicut and Palghat and initially I thought that the balancing weights had fallen off or the discs got distorted. The fault was with the tyre similar to what supremebaleno mentioned. |
Another case similar as mine and same JK Vectras.
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Originally Posted by VeyronSuperSprt If your tyre is an Indian brand (JK, MRF and even Goodyear etc) and is around 4 - 5 years old, please expect a tyre failure regardless of the mileage covered. It isn't safe anymore and please do not use 5 year old Indian branded tyres for long distances / high speed driving. |
While your post has been informative about what tyres do, I do not really want to comment on the recommended duration for tyre change and the Indian vs Foreign tyre life expectancy part in your post, because we will get nowhere with the discussion, as I learnt on another thread. We would both be talking from our individual experience and both would have valid points, adding to the deadlock. But in general, most people would change tyres based on remaining tread than counting the years.
My shock at the JKs giving up so early is based on my 27 year experience with tyres on our cars. The 1st set of car-tyres we used were the Modi Continentals that came OE on our 1985 M800 - the car was very sparingly used since it was at Kerala, while me and Dad were @ Chennai and dropping in only once a month or so. Still, they served well for 40K kms and were replaced only in 1998 when the treads wore out. They never bulged in all those years. As mentioned in the initial post, 4 of the 5 tyres of my 60K run Baleno are still as good as new - no bulges here either. The MRFs on our '99 M800 were also replaced due to tread wear around 50K or so - no bulges here too. This was why it shocked me when I saw 3 of the 5 OE JKs have issues on the Swift.
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Originally Posted by getsurya Completely agree with your experience. I too had a similiar issue with BossI(My first scorpio) riding on JK Elanzo's. Two of the four tyres started swellling right after ~20k on odo. JK tyres are very bad for their quality and must be bribing thier way through for the OEM supply chain! |
Another issue with JKs - though different tyre model.
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Originally Posted by dhanushs I have heard (no concrete info) that Maruti sources these tyres for just about ~300-500/piece. |
I do agree that OE tyres are a volume business and so manufacturers would get fat discounts, but still when a new tyre retails at anywhere between 4K-5K, I doubt the OE would be sold at 1/10th that price. And even if that is true, I doubt only Maruti would be sourcing low - all manufacturers would be getting similar pricing from the tyre companies.
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Originally Posted by sudev Statistical data from a large sample base would be needed before blaming any one make/brand. One or many punctures in itself cannot be a criterion of good bad tyre. Unless they are used on same road by two vehicles at same time - not the best but nearest replication. |
While some (Eddy, invincible7, DaiKatana) have not had any issues with JKs, there are also members who have reported the same/similar issues with JKs - so it is not like mine is a one in a 1000 case. And the issue was not about "one or many punctures" as you mentioned, but about tyres swelling up and having to be replaced after a couple of punctures.