[SLK]

Ok guys, Stock tyres for my Alto have lived their live, its time for a slightly better set of tyres.
The 145s are out rightly inadequate to handle even the tiny car’s 62bhp.
Here’s the complexity in this tyre upgrade…
1) No alloys >> the rims remain stock 12” or at most 13” steel from the wagonR.
2) Are a 4.5J rims good enough for 165s?
3) Does the WagonR’s rims have same PCD as Alto?

According to calculations the perfect up sizes are 155/75 R12 and then 165/70 R12.
Or
If I get the WagonR 13” rims the perfect up size is 155/65 R13.
(The 165/60 R13 is about 1cm small in diameter therefore ruled out)

After this went looking for the sizes in 12” available….
155/75 R12… NO
165/70 R12… Only KUMHO! & another funny brand

Now please suggest me
1) What brand to go for (preferable tubeless)?
2) And where in South Delhi do I get the odd sizes?

I am inclined towards 165/70 R12 & I have seen people use this size in Goodyear-tubeless … so it’s got to be available but WHERE?

[kpzen]

I am inclined towards 165/70 R12

with stock 4J steel rims No never try those ...

What brand to go for (preferable tubeless)?

Try to avoid tubeless with steel rims....can cause problem in case of bent rims...

Are a 4.5J rims good enough for 165s?

Still working on that....

And where in South Delhi do I get the odd sizes?

Lajpat Nagar or best is Karol Bagh

[SLK]

Originally Posted by kpzen

with stock 4J steel rims No never try those ...

Its 4.5J... and as far as I have read on the net, 165mm is the absolute maximum you can put on 4.5J.
I went to this tyre shop at Ajit Arcade (near Kailash Colony)... the guy doesn't have 165mm says put 175mm.... on 4.5J rims..... people put that on 800s its no problem. (I'm like, go to hell!)

Originally Posted by kpzen

Try to avoid tubeless with steel rims....can cause problem in case of bent rims...

Right .. alto's rims are not very well built anyways, but then I thought, its a 12" rim and about 11cms of rubber guarding the rims edges. What say?

Also I have tubeless on my wagonR with steel rims... although had one air blowout already ... but it was too severe an impact to be blamed on tubeless tyres.

Originally Posted by kpzen

Lajpat Nagar or best is Karol Bagh

Ohh, never thought of Karol Bagh!, its not even out of the way!

[kpzen]

Its 4.5J.

Are u sure????
To my knowledge the alto has 145/80-12 rubber with 12x4J rims.....

I went to this tyre shop at Ajit Arcade (near Kailash Colony)... the guy doesn't have 165mm says put 175mm.... on 4.5J rims..... people put that on 800s its no problem. (I'm like, go to hell!)

I Dont believe these tyrewallas....they suckk big time ....decide the size before going n dont take their opinion....

Right .. alto's rims are not very well built anyways, but then I thought, its a 12" rim and about 11cms of rubber guarding the rims edges. What say?

U never know when u gonna crash into a pothole unless u drive around India gate most of the time.....Even an impact at 60kph is enough to spoil the rim with 80 profile tyres...

[SLK]

Originally Posted by kpzen

Are u sure????
To my knowledge the alto has 145/80-12 rubber with 12x4J rims.....

Just checked!!... ITS ... 4Bx12... ***!

I had actually checked WagonR yesterday as 4.5J .. so assumed since both cars come stock with 145s.. both must be 4.5..

So basically .. rims are USELESS!!

Doesn't zen also come with same rims!

So probably it concludes this thread!... if you got to stick to stock rims .. no upsize for your Alto...

Now, I think.. I'll get the same 145/80 R12 with tube... and drive it like an 800cc Alto.

Thanks kpzen...

[sonic_boom]

I want to upgrade my Alto's stock tyres. They are 145/80 R12 on 4J rims.I'm against upgrading the rims and would use the stock rims only.

I had initially settled on two choices:

1. 155/70R12
2. 165/70R12

After reading kpzen's strong objection on upgrading to 165/70R12 on
stock rims, I'm left only with on choice : 155/70R12.

My queries are:

1. Can the MICHELIN Energy XM1+ 155/70R12 be fitted without any hassles on my stock Alto 4J rim ??
2. If yes, then will the 15mm lowering of the car due to the lower profile of the new tyres cause any significant problems in day-to-day driving??

-Thanks

[speedsatya]

its 155/65 r1 3 and 165/60 r13 that are the perfect upsizes for your alto.
You will need to source 4.5 J or 5 J rims for the same

[para_7k]

You can fit 155/70 R12 in your stock rims. There might be a slight deter in your ride quality but should not be alarming.

Go for the XM1+ at this size. Worth what you pay for

[lilMonSter]

Mods please move this to the appropriate section if it shouldnt be here. i'm looking for a +1 upsize for the alto k 10. currently running on 175/60 r13 A 539's on 13 x 6j HR rims. i want to go in for 14's as it would fill out the wheel arches a little better. ( after the fenders get flared out to accommodate them. what size 14" tires should i look for? i know 165/55 is one of the options but i havent come across many tires in this size. what profile should 175's be in the 14" diameter to fit onto an alto k 10?
thanks in advance.

[sabret00the]

As far as what I have read so far on the forum Bridgestone Potenza GIII 165/60R13 on 13"5J alloys seems to be the best upsize for a 2007 clear lens ALTO.

Is there any better alternative to this?

[im_srini]

Originally Posted by lilMonSter

I'm looking for a +1 upsize for the Alto K10. Currently running on 175/60 r13 A539s on 13 x 6J HR rims. I want to go in for 14"s as it would fill out the wheel arches a little better (after the fenders get flared out to accommodate them). What size 14" tires should I look for ? I know 165/55 is one of the options but I haven't come across many tires in this size. What profile should 175's be in the 14" diameter to fit onto an Alto K10 ? Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by sabret00the

As far as what I have read so far on the forum Bridgestone Potenza GIII 165/60R13 on 13" 5J alloys seems to be the best upsize for a 2007 clear lens ALTO. Is there any better alternative to this ?

Running 175/60 R13 A539 Yokos myself...

[sabret00the]

Originally Posted by im_srini

Attachment 954719

Running 175/60 R13 A539 Yokos myself...

Perfect stuff!!! Thanked you man.

My car has done around 40K kms and the stock MRF ZVTS are now showing their age. Just saw your car in the gallery section. The Tires and wheels look very handsome on the car. Did you require to do any modifications to fit the 175/60 tires on the ALTO or is there any issues of tires touching upper or side walls? What about ease of handling/driving - is that affected?

[im_srini]

Originally Posted by sabret00the

Did you require to do any modifications to fit the 175/60 tires on the ALTO or is there any issues of tires touching upper or side walls ?
What about ease of handling/driving - is that affected ?

Hi SaberT00the, my Alto came with 145/80 R12 S322 Bridgestones as stock & they lasted almost 45K Kms ! My first footwear upgrade was to GoodYear 165/65 R13 tires, on 13" Plati rims. I did have some "rubbing" issues with this size, primarily at the rear, but only on full suspension compression due to passengers, speed, or deep potholes. My GoodYear tire experience was rather bad, with the tires developing slow punctures due to leaks between the tire beading & the rim.

After a couple of months of disapointment with the GoodYears, I switched to 175/60 R13 A539 Yokos. With the 175s, the tires "stick out" quite a bit - almost an inch from the fenders. But to be fair, the offset of the rims I'm using also exacerbate this issue. These tires, on the rims I'm using, used to rub everywhere ! With just a single passenger at the back & speeds above 40 Kmph, the tires rubbed the rear wheel arches over the slightest undulation ! The situation at the front was only slightly better, deep potholes caused the tires to scrape against the front fenders too.

I was able to reduce the tires getting cut up a bit by installing stiffer dampers (Pedders BlackGas struts) a few years ago. Recently, got a set of "Coil Spring Adjusters" & "HR Lowering Springs" (A-Star ones) for installation - I'm hoping they, along with some fender flaring, would stop the tires rubbing completely.



It's not all doom & gloom though, the A539s are very, very good & improve the handling & braking of the Alto no end. I'm actually on my second set of A539s, the first set lasted 25K Kms. In case you're upsizing, my advice would be to choose the rims carefully (specifically, with respect to the rim's offset). For the really wider tires (165s & 175s), do a trial installation & check clearances at the rear under full compression & also at the front with the wheel half turned (the tires tend to catch the lower lip of the front bumper).

[numerouno.no1]

Hi
Here are some details wrt Alto (old models like lx lxi or vx vxi) tyres.
Stock rims 12x4j
Tyre 145/70 SR12 or 5.65-12-4PR
Best thing to do if you you want company standard and you happen to live in delhi.
Go to Maruti Sales n Service (Mayapuri)
order for rims in advance.
Now Order FR200 (tubless) from bridgestone.
Advice:change tyres in pairs if possible(eithe both front or both rear) or all at once.
If you want long lasting tyres and are ready to customize tyre setting then the best thing would be followings
1. Go for Turanza AR20 or Turanza 60 both 145x80
Bridgestone (This will not increase wearing of cylinder lining) however torque will increase at the couplings as diameter increases, breaks will be more stressed out
2. Go for B290 165x65 broader tyres for more grip but it will increase wearing of cylinder lining.

[sushil_n79]

Hi All
good day
Trying to revive this thread, my 2012 alto which has 145 80 R12 tyres running on stock 5J rims are nearing change. the car has run only 49494 kms as mostly used on weekends and for occasionally going to office 7 kms to and fro or dropping kids to school a distance of 3 kms to and fro. When I checked online calculator for upsizing i came to know that a diameter difference of less than 2% would be acceptable. which makes the tyre upsize options 155 70 R13 and 165 65 R13.

Link to Online Calculator:
https://www.thetyreworld.in/tyre-calculator.php

As the roads near my house are uneven and bad not planning for alloys as I've heard that steel rims don't break on bad roads they just bend and can be repaired..also do not want to invest in alloys at the moment

my questions are:
1. Can the 13-inch tyres be fitted on stock rims of 12-inch 5J?
2. What will be the effect on mileage?
3. How will it affect the drive quality in terms of comfort, stability and safety?
4. will it lead to hydroplaning/aquaplaning?

Has anyone tried an upgrade on stock rims? request experts to advise.

Thanks and regards
Sushil Narayanan