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BANNED | Reported Post by bblost: Thar thread..Samurai Quote:
I have one Question for the critics , If its so bad product then let it face the market & fail , why are you so seriously taking note of it ? Ignore it . I think Thar cant be ignored just like that , because of its huge potential . I don't say its perfect or what ever . may be it has created some kind of panic amongst a few . Let us comment in a fair way & do it responsibly Sudarshan Last edited by khan_sultan : 23rd February 2011 at 11:59. Reason: PM Sent | |
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Senior - BHPian | re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) Thar is fairly successful in SA. I do not think that Mahindra would spend extra effort to give us rusted body or shoddy plastics. Yes a lot of accessories available in SA are not available here, but then in SA all the addons are third party. I agree that if you do not like it, do not buy Thar. Low sales would perk up any manufacturer, but if the sales are good then they assume that the buyers are satisfied. I like Speedy's approach, if you want it and factory does not give it, do it yourself! After all all of us were doing up the jeeps. Now you can do it on a new vehicle! |
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| re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) At last after so much wait, my Toredor Red Thar CRDe has arrived at my dealers stock yard in Bangalore. going now to have a look at it and plan for delivery date amongst other stuff. Please advise if there is anything apart from the standard PDI that I should do for Thar. |
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| re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) Quote:
I could never ever ridicule the views/comments of fellow members whom I keep in very high esteem. There's something know as "Consumer feedback" which if used properly, translates into better/superior products. Ofcourse you need a Company which pays heed to the "Feedback". This has been a very fair review & comments by the members have been spot on. "A spade has to be called a spade"! Regarding "drool", members over here are mature enough to see what drool worthy or not. I can only suggest, please don't try & run down anybodys views just because you have different. Learn to respect others views & suggestions, they are all targeted at making the Thar a better vehicle. The very essence of a public board is "freedom to express". If you like others views, fine. If not, just move over, can't do much! | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) Quote:
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The CRDE is a car that has excellent road manners and fabulous to drive on the streets. The MDI is the one that can be used to offroad with as it does have the older jeeper favourite "solid axel". Please remember a company does not build cars keeping a handfull of people in mind, they think commercial. If it makes money they do it, not on peoples passions or need. There is something called custom built for that and it does not come cheap at all. Quote:
It is not a lost oportunity atall. The company will gain tremendously with this. Please do keep in mind the CRDE was not built keeping offroaders in mind, it was to please the city boys. The MDI can do the offroading as it is a similar set up to what the old jeep users are used too. Look at me i am getting things done how i want too, so nothing about something being done from the manufacturers end. The jeeps used today for offroading by the so called serious jeepers and off roaders never left their factories this way. They have been tinkered with and retro fitted with parts to suit their offroading needs. So why the step treatment to the Thar. Personally i dont think so. I do get the feeling from a few people that they feel threatend by the Thar as they would have less work in their hands with more Thars being bought. It does feel that some are stuck in the 15th century while others have moved to the 21st. If you ask me the car is fabulous to drive in the city and rough roads. I have yet to take her for an actual offroading run, as i was waiting to get all the mods done on her first. If anyone wants a hassle free, fun to drive jeep for the city and rough roads and yes if you dont find the Thar Expensive, please do get her, you will not be dissapointed atall. Last edited by khan_sultan : 21st February 2011 at 15:30. Reason: Commenting on ANY mod activity is not allowed. Please use reported post or 1-on-1 section for that. | ||||
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| re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) Quote:
We, the Tbhp-ians were asked what you want way back in 2008 and each of us here have suggested / contributed to the database. When a new vehicle was released, its obvious that we voice our opinion rather than go ga ga over it. The THAR is a good vehicle, but has its limitations and when the limitations are stated, it does not mean we criticize it. Enjoy your THAR, voice your ownership experience for the benefit of the community! Last edited by headers : 21st February 2011 at 12:31. | |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) Quote:
Exactly, instead of cribbing and crying over things, i rather do it how i want it and be happy with it. Except for the IFS and the engine this is an old jeep. Quote:
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AWD please do read this thread again, i think you have missed a few posts or have played a blind eye to them. This car has been run down by most people on grounds of IFS,HT and AC. The car is compared to offroad usage and treated like a normal person would never use this car. What makes you think the company is going to stop all its working and read what a handfull of people on this forum have written and spend crores to make changes. We need to get back to reality. I am sure more than half the people who have made judgements on the Thar have not even sat in one let alone drive it. If you want a car to your spec and need, build it yourself or be ready to spend a high amount in having the company built it for you. The word here is tailor made to your needs. People here find the Thar expensive, so the tailor made car option will be way beyond. @ Headers - Please do read this thread from a non TBHPian view and from someone not from a car community. This thread reaks of negitivity to the Thar and biast posts against the Thar. The Thar has always been compared to the older jeeps offroading capabilities. The older jeeps that offroad are modded to suit the need. The Thar pitted against them, is it modded, the answer is no. The older jeeps run on AT or MT tyres, the Thar runs on HT tyres. Some of the Jeeps run Diff Locks and what not, does the Thar run on them, no it does not. Yet the Thar does its obstacles and in the Avalcando (hope i got it right) did the course and did not let down anyone except the old Jeepers. If this is not a step treatment and an unfair judgement call then what is my friend. Give the Thar the same advantages the older Jeeps have except for the solid axel and you will see the older jeeps standing no chance against the Thar. Have you ever been for a contest where they ask you to give and idea and they will build a toy or bike according to it. The winners idea is taken and incorporated to best suit the feasability of the product in the market. The same thing applies here too. The idea was taken and the company gave two cars. Crde for the city and MDI with the solid axel to offroad. So why hold the CRDE as the serious offroader vehicle. Thar has no limitations, the only limitations are in ones mind my friend. A person who has never worked on an IFS has been saying that it is no good and has only one solution to solving the issue "Solid Axel". PLease do go try and when you have failed and have given up, do say it is no good. Till then its just a comment with no substance to it. Statements like these make the one reading and the ones who hold the person making the statement in high esteem, believe it to be true and start bashing the car without haveing first hand experience of knowledge of it. Last edited by khan_sultan : 21st February 2011 at 15:36. Reason: #1: No comments on members please. #2: No comments about moderation. If you feel the need, use report post feature | |||
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| re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) Quote:
I tried taking my office cab Tata sumo to my basement parking, it was a photo finish fit, entry and exit from parking slot. Cab driver told mr that since his sumo did not have PS it took some effort in going back & forth while steering. This boosted my confidence that Thar which has PS should fit in with lesser effort, hence did a quick comparison of dimensions and my requirements (highlighted in green) between my Indica, the sumo which fitted the parking slot and the suggested SUVs ![]() Hopefully THar will also get into my parking slot?? (TBHPs expert opinion based on the comparative specs will be very helpful before I sign the cheque) I have decided to retain my 2006 Indica V2 as it is going good with odo 58K and clocking perfectly well without any issues at all. I will book Thar once the booking reopens (April 2011??), take the cost adavntage of Thar compared to scorpio and use it for mods. with this my 2 vehicles should complement each other an Indica & decently modified Thar. Will come back again with my thoughts of modifiying Thar Cheers! | |
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Wow, even I am biased against Thar now? You should re-read all the old Thar threads again. Members who follow my Jeep thread (obviously you are not one of them), know that I was very close to booking it. Hint: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-v...ml#post2166020 (Mahindra CJ340 joins Team-BHP family) However, last month I had to replace my wife's Santro with i10. My Thar funds got diverted to i10 for now. And I had declared long back in one of the Thar threads that I will not buy Thar without HT or AC. I am not compromising on that stand. Quote:
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| re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) Quote:
Congrats on putting your money on the Thar. You picked it up because it suited your requirements, albeit with a few modifications that you are thinking of. On the other hand, the miserly me does not wish to blow his money on something that doesn't fit his requirements and then go ahead and make modifications, and then again on maintenance, if (IF) something happens to go wrong with the IFS. I would prefer 'easier to maintain' solid axles for a vehicle that will be predominantly off-road. One of the reasons why I had the gypsy with me for 9 years. As for your question on the monetary contribution from me or other jeepers to this project, I didn't know Mahindra was out looking for money. Maybe I would have spared some for them. Please keep your comments impersonal. And read up all the threads of the Thar (sequentially) in order to understand the issue better. | |
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I agree with you totally, right from my experience of buying it, to getting it home, was not exactly a pleasent one, but am i going to keep writing about it, NO. I am going to do things my way and have the Management see it. I am not someone who believes in talking and writing about things, but doing it. Ac is available and Hardtop you can make to your liking. The demensions are the same as the 540 and 550. The car is not exactly on the cheaper side and a person would have to think before he jumps in, but holding the IFS, non company provided HT and AC against the car sounds wrong to me. Quote:
I do not blow my money either, i study and research for months before i venture into purchasing a car or even a cylce. I guess its in my blood a Marwadi you see ![]() So sir for 9 years you have offroaded with your Gypsy and she is bone stock as she came out of the factory? You did make it sound as though you'll had contributed to the build of the Thar and the company took you'll for a ride. The company promised you"ll a great jeep and gave you lemon instead after taking monitory help from you'll. The company is not sitting here to please everyone, its here to make money and surely does not require monitory help from anyone. I have read all the Threads regarding the Thar and understand the issue at large. I would reserve my comments here as i dont want you thinking it is a personal attack or something. I am sorry if you thought things were taken personally against you, It was a general comment on the offroaders having contributed to making the Thar to their liking. Note from the Team-BHP Support Team : Please use the "edit" button if posting within 20 minutes of the first post, instead of creating another back-to-back post. Last edited by FlyingSpur : 22nd February 2011 at 18:34. Reason: Please use the EDIT function instead of posting back-to-back posts within 20 minutes. Thanks. | |||||
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BHPian ![]() | re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019)
thats a sweet ride you've bought bro, congrats. I would be definitely watching for your ownership review both on-road as well as off-road. I remember distantly that Allan is working upon this one with you, Is there a separate thread for the same showing us the complete build-up. Please do let me know and would love to subscribe to it. |
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** I would expect AC and HT from a lifestyle vehicle especially if I have to do intercity rides in comfort. Last edited by headers : 21st February 2011 at 14:16. | |||||
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| re: Review: 1st-gen Mahindra Thar (2011 - 2019) I should post my opinions here... Speedy generously let me take a spin in the Thar, now shod with Maxxis Bighorn rubber and testicle crushing recaro seats. I loved it...was a super experience having a Jeep with the ride and power of a Scorpio. The image and stance of a jeep is unmistakable and in the darkness I was able to overlook the cosmetic gaffes and panel gap inconsistencies. Honestly - everything sort of got lost in the rush as the jeep took off and I was just along for the ride. It isn't the most powerful vehicle I've ever driven and it is far from being the best handling. What did tick the box for me is the fact that this is a Jeep with 4x4, good looks and an engine that gives it cruise-ability. Now if I can get one with A/C, immobilizer and a long-range fuel tank then I'll be sorted. I would imagine I'll have to give up on the more difficult off-roading obstacles purely because I don't want to hurt the vehicle...but I think this is a tradeoff I might be willing to make. So yes - I am definitely open to owning a Thar...a change from my earlier position. Too bad I have a Gypsy at the moment which is keeping me VERY happy. |
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