My new Scorpio MHawk: Initial report

adzegeek · 13th January 2010, 13:54

The scorp manual has these CAUTION lines "never add fuel system additives or cleaning agents. These may damage the system. These may damage the system."

The duplicated lines reflect the poor QC of the manual itself, but I am wondering if a lot of folks are using system-D, why would the manual say otherwise?

SanScorpio · 13th January 2010, 14:01

tet,
did you check if you have those two pushbuttons in the glovebox?

triedeverything · 13th January 2010, 14:11

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Originally Posted by SanScorpio

triedeverything,
check if there are 2 pushbutton switches in the glove box, on the top, if they are there then you can set the code.

OK, I did check the glove box. There is only one push button. From the manual this button is to switch off the audio (voice) prompts that sound if the handbrake is on, if the doors are unlocked etc. I'll try to post some pictures soon

4x4addict · 13th January 2010, 14:43

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Originally Posted by triedeverything

OK, I did check the glove box. There is only one push button. From the manual this button is to switch off the audio (voice) prompts that sound if the handbrake is on, if the doors are unlocked etc. I'll try to post some pictures soon

Great. Does this mean there is no more need to change the immobilizer code? I am confused now.

SanScorpio · 13th January 2010, 14:48

tet,
how about the remote locking is it integrated with the key and does the remote locking come with a separate manual, coz i received a Nippon manual for the remote locking

adzegeek · 13th January 2010, 15:31

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Great. Does this mean there is no more need to change the immobilizer code? I am confused now.

Tini, this is one of the items on PDI sheet that I sent - I asked and they said it cannot be done. The manual and the CD which comes with refreshed scorp does not have the section which Raj had posted for non-refreshed mHawks. all I understood later on that each scorp has a diff IM code and the same (or hashed) code is on the key. There is no need to change it.

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Originally Posted by SanScorpio

tet,
how about the remote locking is it integrated with the key and does the remote locking come with a separate manual, coz i received a Nippon manual for the remote locking

AFAIK, Nippon Manual I got is for ICE (crappy). Can you please send this manual over PM (if digitized or indicate if available in the CD). Does it have anything more than what is in the owner's manual.

adzegeek · 13th January 2010, 15:36

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Originally Posted by SanScorpio

triedeverything,
check if there are 2 pushbutton switches in the glove box, on the top, if they are there then you can set the code.

Sanscorpio - can you post a picture of this thing - I seem to have three push button slots but only one push button deployed which is for VMS settings.

SanScorpio · 13th January 2010, 15:51

@ adzegeek,
will send u the manual later tonite, as also the pics of the switches. the Nippon manual has more info about troubleshooting and setting the code of the immobiliser.
Got the info that the VLX versions had the chip on key with unique codes for each vehicle which are factory set and cannot be changed, the SLE's even the refreshed ones didnt have this. But on a recent visit to the service center heard that the newer batch of SLE's get the unique code keys which also happens to be tied in with the twin pod instrument cluster. so i guess new twin pod cluster = no changeable code for immobiliser.

triedeverything · 13th January 2010, 15:58

Here are the pics. Though there are three slots, only one button

My new Scorpio MHawk: Initial report-13012010055.jpg

My new Scorpio MHawk: Initial report-13012010056.jpg

SanScorpio · 13th January 2010, 21:32

hey guys, heres the pics of the 2 pushbuttons in the glovebox.

triedeverything · 13th January 2010, 21:36

So am I missing a button or does San have an extra one?

SanScorpio · 13th January 2010, 21:40

guess they give me one more button and you more security

adzegeek · 13th January 2010, 23:13

sanscorpio - so your SLE have voice message alerts (most powerful vehicle, fuel empty warning, seat belt, door open warning) - and if yes, where is the push button to deactivate/re-activate those?

SanScorpio · 14th January 2010, 07:29

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Originally Posted by adzegeek

sanscorpio - so your SLE have voice message alerts (most powerful vehicle, fuel empty warning, seat belt, door open warning) - and if yes, where is the push button to deactivate/re-activate those?

yes some guy keeps saying all those messages and the switch on the left in the glovebox if for the VMS reset. the one on the right is for the security system.

raj_5004 · 14th January 2010, 10:35

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Originally Posted by triedeverything

OK, I did check the glove box. There is only one push button. From the manual this button is to switch off the audio (voice) prompts that sound if the handbrake is on, if the doors are unlocked etc. I'll try to post some pictures soon

good. so my confusion is cleared now. since there is only button in the refresh scorpio now (which is for the voice assist system), the code in the new scorpios cannot & need not be changed.

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Great. Does this mean there is no more need to change the immobilizer code? I am confused now.

yes, all new scorpios may be coming with a unique for the RFID tech.

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Originally Posted by triedeverything

So am I missing a button or does San have an extra one?

you are just lucky that your car is much more safer & there are lesser chances of yours getting stolen.

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Originally Posted by SanScorpio

guess they give me one more button and you more security

good one.

13th January 2010, 13:54	#46
adzegeek BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Special admin z Posts: 284 Thanked: 29 Times	The scorp manual has these CAUTION lines "never add fuel system additives or cleaning agents. These may damage the system. These may damage the system." The duplicated lines reflect the poor QC of the manual itself, but I am wondering if a lot of folks are using system-D, why would the manual say otherwise?
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13th January 2010, 14:01	#47
SanScorpio BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 133 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	tet, did you check if you have those two pushbuttons in the glovebox?
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13th January 2010, 14:48	#50
SanScorpio BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 133 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	tet, how about the remote locking is it integrated with the key and does the remote locking come with a separate manual, coz i received a Nippon manual for the remote locking
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13th January 2010, 15:51	#53
SanScorpio BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 133 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	@ adzegeek, will send u the manual later tonite, as also the pics of the switches. the Nippon manual has more info about troubleshooting and setting the code of the immobiliser. Got the info that the VLX versions had the chip on key with unique codes for each vehicle which are factory set and cannot be changed, the SLE's even the refreshed ones didnt have this. But on a recent visit to the service center heard that the newer batch of SLE's get the unique code keys which also happens to be tied in with the twin pod instrument cluster. so i guess new twin pod cluster = no changeable code for immobiliser.
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13th January 2010, 15:58	#54
triedeverything BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 503 Thanked: 243 Times View My Garage	Here are the pics. Though there are three slots, only one button
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13th January 2010, 21:32	#55
SanScorpio BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 133 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	2 pushbuttons hey guys, heres the pics of the 2 pushbuttons in the glovebox. Attached Thumbnails
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13th January 2010, 21:36	#56
triedeverything BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 503 Thanked: 243 Times View My Garage	So am I missing a button or does San have an extra one?
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13th January 2010, 21:40	#57
SanScorpio BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 133 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	guess they give me one more button and you more security
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13th January 2010, 23:13	#58
adzegeek BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Special admin z Posts: 284 Thanked: 29 Times	sanscorpio - so your SLE have voice message alerts (most powerful vehicle, fuel empty warning, seat belt, door open warning) - and if yes, where is the push button to deactivate/re-activate those?
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