Review: 2nd-gen Honda Jazz

adimicra · 18th January 2011, 10:43

nice scoop sid. any more details regarding the features/price/variants?

I only see a front bumper and headlights change and I like the new bumper. Are there any other external changes? Looks like a very subtle facelift.

Avinash_R · 18th January 2011, 10:46

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Originally Posted by adimicra

nice scoop sid. any more details regarding the features/price/variants?

I only see a front bumper change and I like the new bumper. Are there any other external changes? Looks like a very subtle facelift.

Add to that, new sharpish headlights I guess. But it will still not sell considering the price. Honda HAS to bring the price down otherwise it will not sell.

thedreamcatcher · 18th January 2011, 10:50

Not a drastic change, just minor cosmetic touches to keep with the times

As someone pointed out, the headlights seem a bit sharper, but hard to make out in the pic, it could also be camoflauge

swiftnfurious · 18th January 2011, 11:01

Is Honda competing to get the "maximum variant / facelift in shortest time" award??

Am just not able to make sense out of their acts. The basic issue with this car is low equipment levels / high price. Without addressing these issues, whats the point in keep coming with facelifts !

Also fellow bhpians, please let me understand...for all facelifts [bumpers / headlights and all], doesn't the cost go higher? I mean the ROI takes more time to break even right?

If they use the same parts, since the mold is already available, the cost of manufacturing will be less in the long run there by letting the car manufacture reduce the price - if they wish so?

kadanaJ · 18th January 2011, 12:21

Huh???
I see almost no change.

Also, yes, the Jazz does have low equipment levels for a high price, but if you consider the massive interior space, overall practicality, ease of ownership etc., the Jazz isn't that bad a buy. Depends on one's usage i guess.

ACM · 18th January 2011, 12:23

The Jazz looks good as it is, it does not require a facelift it just requires much better pricing to go off the shelf. (1L price drop would be a good start).

They can compensate existing buyers with free additional extended warranty, alloys, spoilers, reverse camera, reverse sensors, leather seat updates so that none feel bad about it.

Nice scoop Sid, but Honda needs to think out of the box for the Jazz to get it moving, this won't work.

The Fiesta Hatch is also likely to come and spoil this present exclusivity that Jazz has at a better price point with more in hand.

devarshi84 · 18th January 2011, 12:29

Honda Jazz was a non-seller at 8+, where the AT will land. Makes for an excellent buy but a bad business decision.

condor · 18th January 2011, 12:48

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Originally Posted by thedreamcatcher

.., the headlights seem a bit sharper, but hard to make out in the pic, it could also be camoflauge

+1. Headlights are camouflaged with tape.

S2!!! · 18th January 2011, 13:02

is it me or the front bumpers seem to look dented from both sides?? I know it is a part of a sharper design but seriously

??
I donot think Honda would revise their prices. All they would do is add fog lights, maybe alloys too and sell this somewhere near the Jazz X price point.

sidindica · 18th January 2011, 13:08

This is how the car should look like after the facelift. Pics of Japanese fit from Honda japan site.

fx45 · 18th January 2011, 14:28

nice scoop by the website, seems no change on the rear? I wish the had put LED tail lamps. I think UK market jazz features them

KiloAlpha · 18th January 2011, 15:15

Mild facelift, not a major change in platform I think?

I hope the facelifted Jazz comes with a more comprehensive equipment list, with none of those irritating omissions - please Honda, take a leaf out of the i20.

Lower pricing on the cards? If I remember correctly, there was a news article and a thread here about Honda's new sourcing strategy aimed at reducing cost of components.

theragingbull · 18th January 2011, 15:17

With this facelift, if Honda brings in the automatic variant at the current price then it'd be a great car for the money. Right now i20 is the only premium hatch that offers AT but at a steep 8+ lakhs.

KiloAlpha · 18th January 2011, 15:27

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Originally Posted by theragingbull

With this facelift, if Honda brings in the automatic variant at the current price then it'd be a great car for the money. Right now i20 is the only premium hatch that offers AT but at a steep 8+ lakhs.

Errr ... the Jazz costs about the same, I think?

Apart from cost, just looked up facelifted Jazz reviews. They talk about a new platform, with a longer wheelbase and even more interior room and flexibility

And the boot is even more spacious with some sort of partitioning mechanism and parcel tray!

iridium · 18th January 2011, 16:44

Facelift for the Jazz won't help.
I have a Jazz Select Edition (May 2010 model).

A 1.5 liter engine, with an automatic option and a price reduction of at least a lakh on road would definitely help in boosting the sales.

Regards
Ravi.

18th January 2011, 10:43	#781
adimicra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,007 Thanked: 2,445 Times	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India nice scoop sid. any more details regarding the features/price/variants? I only see a front bumper and headlights change and I like the new bumper. Are there any other external changes? Looks like a very subtle facelift. Last edited by adimicra : 18th January 2011 at 10:45.
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18th January 2011, 10:50	#783
thedreamcatcher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,204 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India Not a drastic change, just minor cosmetic touches to keep with the times As someone pointed out, the headlights seem a bit sharper, but hard to make out in the pic, it could also be camoflauge
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18th January 2011, 11:01	#784
swiftnfurious Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 7,221 Thanked: 9,719 Times	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India Is Honda competing to get the "maximum variant / facelift in shortest time" award?? Am just not able to make sense out of their acts. The basic issue with this car is low equipment levels / high price. Without addressing these issues, whats the point in keep coming with facelifts ! Also fellow bhpians, please let me understand...for all facelifts [bumpers / headlights and all], doesn't the cost go higher? I mean the ROI takes more time to break even right? If they use the same parts, since the mold is already available, the cost of manufacturing will be less in the long run there by letting the car manufacture reduce the price - if they wish so? Last edited by swiftnfurious : 18th January 2011 at 11:02.
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18th January 2011, 12:21	#785
kadanaJ BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 589 Thanked: 964 Times	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India Huh??? I see almost no change. Also, yes, the Jazz does have low equipment levels for a high price, but if you consider the massive interior space, overall practicality, ease of ownership etc., the Jazz isn't that bad a buy. Depends on one's usage i guess.
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18th January 2011, 12:23	#786
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,748 Thanked: 4,371 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India The Jazz looks good as it is, it does not require a facelift it just requires much better pricing to go off the shelf. (1L price drop would be a good start). They can compensate existing buyers with free additional extended warranty, alloys, spoilers, reverse camera, reverse sensors, leather seat updates so that none feel bad about it. Nice scoop Sid, but Honda needs to think out of the box for the Jazz to get it moving, this won't work. The Fiesta Hatch is also likely to come and spoil this present exclusivity that Jazz has at a better price point with more in hand.
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18th January 2011, 12:29	#787
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	re: Review: 2nd-gen Honda Jazz Honda Jazz was a non-seller at 8+, where the AT will land. Makes for an excellent buy but a bad business decision.
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18th January 2011, 13:02	#789
S2!!! Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,923 Thanked: 10,102 Times	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India is it me or the front bumpers seem to look dented from both sides?? I know it is a part of a sharper design but seriously?? I donot think Honda would revise their prices. All they would do is add fog lights, maybe alloys too and sell this somewhere near the Jazz X price point. Last edited by S2!!! : 18th January 2011 at 13:03.
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18th January 2011, 13:08	#790
sidindica Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 4,893 Thanked: 8,131 Times	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India This is how the car should look like after the facelift. Pics of Japanese fit from Honda japan site. Attached Thumbnails
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18th January 2011, 14:28	#791
fx45 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,823 Thanked: 386 Times	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India nice scoop by the website, seems no change on the rear? I wish the had put LED tail lamps. I think UK market jazz features them
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18th January 2011, 15:15	#792
KiloAlpha Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cubicle Posts: 1,607 Thanked: 3,025 Times	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India Mild facelift, not a major change in platform I think? I hope the facelifted Jazz comes with a more comprehensive equipment list, with none of those irritating omissions - please Honda, take a leaf out of the i20. Lower pricing on the cards? If I remember correctly, there was a news article and a thread here about Honda's new sourcing strategy aimed at reducing cost of components.
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18th January 2011, 15:17	#793
theragingbull Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,601 Thanked: 646 Times View My Garage	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India With this facelift, if Honda brings in the automatic variant at the current price then it'd be a great car for the money. Right now i20 is the only premium hatch that offers AT but at a steep 8+ lakhs.
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18th January 2011, 16:44	#795
iridium BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 10 Times	Re: Scoop shots: Honda Jazz Facelift in India Facelift for the Jazz won't help. I have a Jazz Select Edition (May 2010 model). A 1.5 liter engine, with an automatic option and a price reduction of at least a lakh on road would definitely help in boosting the sales. Regards Ravi.
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