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Originally Posted by aseem Honda charges a premium upfront but at least I havent heart stories of engine mountings, driveshaft, clutch, plastic, chrome strips replacement from Honda owners in the first few months of ownership. |
In the threads of the car in question here (since the discussion started from there apparently), there were only 2 owners who had plastic issue & both were solved by the MFR. None of the owners have reported any issue with engine parts - engine mountings, driveshaft, clutch. For Honda, leave aside other threads reg issues, in this very thread, a Civic owner himself has mentioned how he with his family got harrassed with his Civic stalling midways on highway at midnights & continue to stall thereafter, the Dealer not rectifying it & in fact putting fabricated components in his Civic, He has written to Honda to no avail. Quote:
Bringing back the point, that manfacturers should not compromise on quality by building a car to price.
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Sure. But charging a hefty premium & not giving quality is a crime (This forum is full of views that ANHC plastics are poor). Quote:
1) Charge a higher price upfront and not compromise on quality
2) Reduce the number of features for better quality. Given the choice I would rather go for a car without climatronic, but which is manfactured with good grade parts that just dont fall off in the first few months of ownership.
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Sure. Assuming your argument that a car has poor plastic is true (though it has come out only in couple of cases here), the MFR can easily fix it at about Rs. 10K. On the other hand another MFR has already charged a hefty premium - how is he gonna give Climate control, Alloys, Rear AC vents, Rear Sun blind, Bluetooth connectivity with Voice Recognition, USB & CD Player together, Speed-Volume auto control & so on - at how much price that he would need to increase to give all these? Then we'll come to an Apple-to-Apple comparison. Than the question is - for that substantially increased price, Do I still want Plastic quality (which is still questionable)? Quote:
I think the strategy by some manfacturers for India is to throw a good looking product with poor plastics, boring engine options, at a relatively LOW price to get the sales charts ticking initially. But what happens is that over a period of time, with ownership reports pouring in, the dent to the image of the company sets in, resulting in low resale value!
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Suggest you visit all New-car Ownership Threads of the manufacturer in question here & also visit the thread(s) of that Civic customer.
All other points are covered by Joylicx Quote:
Originally Posted by joslicx Well your reliability argument has no takers! Almost all cars available (even good ol 800) are super reliable. I have friends driving Santros and WagonRs for 6-7 years without any problems!
As regards to plastics and all - would you rather pay 2 lakhs more for better plastics? Probably that is the big Q!
Again havent owned Honda so no idea about all this. A friend of mine has the NHC and once a Qualis scraped by driver's side taking off his rear-view mirror. Replacement cost him ~ 3000 rupees and that he had to pay from his pocked as it was more of less equal to no claim bonus. Hondas can be expansive to maintain as well
Quality is a very subjective thing and Honda has no sole copyrights on it. You seem to imply all the other cars in India except Honda will just fall in parts at the next instant. It isint the case. The climatronic in Swift works fine for years. And then there is one in Civic. Does it fall apart after few months? If it can be offered in Civic then why not in City or Jazz? And that Hondas farcical argument about alloys. They are not needed in smaller cars like Jazz/City!!! Its nonsense.
Its like having a 100 rupee Daal Roti plate for 1000 in a 5 star restaurant and feeling satisfied!! What was premium about it?
This is not really true. I guess almost all manufacturers offer more exciting engine options than Honda (remember 77 bhp NHC engine! it was super exciting Right?) ANHCs plastics are also poor (compared to NHC), Honda is going backwards with its new launches (just living on early goodwill). Both ANHC and Jazz are disappointing (compared to what Honda had earlier). Lets see how well they continue doing in future. Goodwill generally holds only for a certain time. | |