[merve_extreme]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Can you please explain what function the power mode switch serves?

This switch makes the auto shift gears at higher revs than normal,its good for aggressive driving,especially in the hills or on highways.

[anandpadhye]

Hi merve_extreme,

I am waiting for your detailed TD/Ownership report.

Thanks,
Anand

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by merve_extreme

Engine noise is there but only on the outside,it is quite silent inside the cabin.The realtime indicator was showing a econmy of 6.5 to 6.9 in city.we havent taken it off-road or on a long drive as the number plates are still not put up.

Any idea how much city/hwy FE your cousin is getting?

[vasudeva]

Do Maruti dealers have separate sales team for compacts, sedans, and Grand Vitara. At least Toyota has (for Innova and Corolla). If one salesperson is responsible for all, then do not expect from most salesrep, the personal coddling for Grand Vitara. That person does not need to coddle anyone for Alto and WagonR. Higher end cars need more personal attention. Anyway, there is no competition between CRV auto and a Grand Vitara. Of course the old CRV looked better, but CRV is a best seller worldwide, and well Grand Vitara is a me too product. Second, the CRV sold in India is the same in engine specs everywhere, but the Grand Vitara is a lower spec engine (typical Suzuki dump it in India mentality).

[vasudeva]

Originally Posted by awini

on saturday i visited sikand motors on janpath in new delhi, to enquire about the grand vitara, which at 15 odd lakhs on road is marutis most expensive vehicle.

well i guess ill be looking at the CRV more seriously now, perhaps even the Pajero, which though slightly more expensive, is extremely good value for money now. except that its not automatic.

How is Pajero good value for money???. Where does it score over CRV auto. Is it in terms of looks, image, reliability, FE, cost, or some other intangible.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by vasudeva

Anyway, there is no competition between CRV auto and a Grand Vitara. Of course the old CRV looked better, but CRV is a best seller worldwide, and well Grand Vitara is a me too product. Second, the CRV sold in India is the same in engine specs everywhere, but the Grand Vitara is a lower spec engine (typical Suzuki dump it in India mentality).

I am appalled at these statements, considering how much I have learnt about GV in the last one week. CR-V is a showboat, a mini-SUV wannabe (me too), it is just an alternative for Accord, for people who want luxury car with higher stance. The GV on the other hand is more off-roader than on-roader, a real mini-SUV.

[awini]

Originally Posted by vasudeva

How is Pajero good value for money???. Where does it score over CRV auto. Is it in terms of looks, image, reliability, FE, cost, or some other intangible.

its the same car for which people gladly paid 40 lakhs plus 10 years ago. its as rugged as a mountain goat, its cheaper to buy,run and maintain, its a genuine suv. i think it looks better, but then i like vintage cars, and the late eighties styling with thinner pillers and flatter flanks is easier to drive and park in the city, because it has better visibility (like the old honda city for example) its going to see a lot of highway use with my brother so diesel is an advantage, comfortably seats 5 and their golf bags, or 7 if you dont have luggage...but i would prefer the gv over the pajero if it had their V6.

[vasudeva]

Originally Posted by Samurai

I am appalled at these statements, considering how much I have learnt about GV in the last one week. CR-V is a showboat, a mini-SUV wannabe (me too), it is just an alternative for Accord, for people who want luxury car with higher stance. The GV on the other hand is more off-roader than on-roader, a real mini-SUV.

But this is completely off-topic in the thread. Let's keep this about bad Maruti salesman.

Looks like my opinion has offended some. Anyway, my mistake in posting, since he has already bought a Pajero.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by vasudeva

Looks like my opinion has offended some. Anyway, my mistake in posting, since he has already bought a Pajero.

Nope, I am not offended, I am fully aware of the -ves of GV in the luxury/engine/refinement where CR-V excels. I was only appalled at the blatant claim that CR-V is superior to GV and even Pajero. You are basically comparing cars that cater to completely different segment. But you are obviously assuming I am biased to GV considering I am buying one. But people who know how I arrived at GV, can tell you that I am mainly interested in the off-road abilities where CR-V is a complete dud. I started off with Trax Gama if you didn't know.

[vasudeva]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Nope, I am not offended, I am fully aware of the -ves of GV in the luxury/engine/refinement where CR-V excels. I was only appalled at the blatant claim that CR-V is superior to GV and even Pajero. You are basically comparing cars that cater to completely different segment. But you are obviously assuming I am not biased to GV considering I am buying one. But people who know how I arrived at GV, would tell that I am mainly interested in the off-road abilities where CR-V is a complete dud. I started off with Trax Gama if you didn't know.

PS: Right now I am looking for a proper thread where I can move these last few OT posts.

I am grateful that you are not offended. Again irrelevant, but if you consider my post, it was an opinion or a blatant claim, and not a fact. For that matter, I bought a flop Corsa, when Esteem, Ikon, and Accents were raging successes. But because of my experience with Corsa (mostly good but with problems increasing by the month), I have now generalised my buying preferences to all manufacturers (get this?)

[diabloo]

Hey Samurai, did you do a TD of CRV on the same roads as GV? If so where did it fail?

Originally Posted by Samurai

Nope, I am not offended, I am fully aware of the -ves of GV in the luxury/engine/refinement where CR-V excels. I was only appalled at the blatant claim that CR-V is superior to GV and even Pajero. You are basically comparing cars that cater to completely different segment. But you are obviously assuming I am biased to GV considering I am buying one. But people who know how I arrived at GV, can tell you that I am mainly interested in the off-road abilities where CR-V is a complete dud. I started off with Trax Gama if you didn't know.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by diabloo

Hey Samurai, did you do a TD of CRV on the same roads as GV? If so where did it fail?

I have known CR-V from the time it was first released in 1996. We (wife and I) thought it was cute then, although the next generation was much better. Then I was interested in street cars or entry level luxury cars, but no off-roader. But I was very aware that it is a street car, we used to follow development of this car along with RAV4 and Forester.

In the last few months I was only considering competent off-roaders, so I was looking into 4x4 SUV like Gama, Gurkha, Bolero, Safari, etc. Last week after learning that GV had some off-road competency, I decided to TD it along with Tucson or Endeavor. But the question of TDing CR-V never rose since I knew it was no off-roader.

[diabloo]

Ok. Your TD reports are interesting. I felt TD of CRV would be more interesting. Even after getting the GV, how about putting the CRV through your torture test ?

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by diabloo

Ok. Your TD reports are interesting.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by diabloo

Even after getting the GV, how about putting the CRV through your torture test ?

Oh, have some pity. You can't take a princess on a trek in the mountain. She might break a nail.

[awini]

samurai, do give the pajero a shot before you finally buy, its a very competent off roader