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| Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Dreams are not what you see in your sleep, Dreams are things which do not let you sleep. – Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam I don’t know the timing of this quote from Dr. Kalam, but I have had a dream that has kept me awake for almost 20 years. Having seen the mighty Mahindras, Pajeros, Safaris, and Sierras on roads while growing up in the desert town of Jaisalmer, and driving them in my college days, these machines always had a very inspiring effect on the boy inside me. Even that I scribbled in my journal to own a BIG BUTCH SUV one day, all while I was just a teenager. Although I lost the journal, memory of that page and that dream etched on those pages remained fresh in my mind. As with everything that grows organically, the process was slow, needed nurturing of the dream, required a lot of hard and smart work. The dream was always fresh and got my patience tested multiple times due to multiple commitments – financial planning, growing family (read 2 kids), prioritizing a house purchase and last but not the least, the pandemic in the past 15 years since I first started working. I had a humble beginning with a Hyundai Eon that came home in Jan-2013 that helped me get on my car journey and made amazing memories in the last 10 years. Many first were attached to it including my son's "India Book of Records" title. My son (a petrolhead in making) had a hard time saying good bye to the Eon. ![]() Which brings me to the context of this post I have been writing and editing from last 15 days to be ready by the time we get the delivery of my Tata Harrier XZA+ Black Edition 2022 and realize a 20-year old dream. Bear with me as it might be a long post, to share with all the petrolheads on the forum, my journey of reaching to this milestone. As with all stories, this one is filled with ups and downs, plot twists, surprises and heart-over-head decisions. Thank you for reading on! Decision to change the car: With the pandemic and its after effects subsiding, we started to look out for options in Jan-2022. Interestingly, 2 of close family friends also started looking out for new cars to replace their 10-year old Alto K10 and WagonR respectively. The weekly family brunches and dinners turned into detailed car evaluation meetings that went on for hours at end. With all the available options being reviewed, test-driven multiple times and near-surgical levels of assessments on pro and cons of each brand and model, they were able to zero-in on VW Taigun (GT) and the Skoda Kushaq for themselves by end of Jun-2022. This left me still unable to decide in spite of years of automotive passion and understanding of cars, the experience and expertise from our esteemed forum Team-bhp and what I thought would an easy and straight forward decision, ended up being an agonizing 8-month period of indecisiveness and massive mental headache. The 8-Month Analysis Paralysis Given that I drove a small city hatchback, a humble Eon for almost 10 years with a fair amount of highway driving thrown in, I had very good idea of what I wanted my next car to be - A full size SUV (possibly even a 7-seater) that can take the entire family and their luggage to anywhere I wanted to go. The petrolhead in me even aspired to get a 4X4 SUV to be able to live the dune-bashing and Ladakh tripping adventures in the future (no end to the aspirations here). Also importantly, I really wanted to buy a car from the Indian brands only - either Tata or Mahindra. It may sound a bit unbelievable, but somewhere in my heart, I wanted to dedicate this purchase to the amazing efforts these two home grown manufacturers have undertaken to give the Indian consumers not just world-class products that are safe, feature rich with awe-inspiring designs but have managed to improve the safety awareness of the car-buying public single-handedly. I have been a vocal advocate of buying safer cars in my family and friends circle and tried my best to recommend products that have safety high on their strengths. Options Considered (Again and Again) Mahindra Thar The car that started it all. Unlike 99% of the Thar buyers, my entire family was sold on the Thar from the day of launch and fortunately I had zero convincing to do in that aspect. We did multiple test drives of the car to ensure we had a good understanding of what the car offered and what were our primary needs. With the 5-door Thar nowhere in sight and the current one not scoring too high on the practicality I needed, I had to let of this beast go from my very short list of contenders much to the chagrin of my daughter who is in love with the Thar. Pros: The Butch styling and the road presence High driving position Go-anywhere capabilities 4-Star Safety rating Decently equipped (willing to let go features for what the car offered in the hardware department) Lure of the Mahindra Adventure off road events Most importantly, the family didn’t need convincing Cons: Rear seat space (the convinced family needs to be comfortable on long journeys) Boot space – I intend to do cross-country drives in the car and needed the luggage space) Rear seat entry Thar was the car that was under consideration for the longest duration and we took multiple test drives before concluding that the novelty may wear off in about a year and the reality might hit us hard after that. Mahindra XUV 700 While I was contemplating the Thar, we always checked out the Mahindra XUV7OO during our showroom visits and went for a few test drives as well. This seemed to be the perfect package, of all what I needed, although the feature pack of the Diesel AX5 AT 7 seater left a lot to be desired. I even booked the car in April-2022 only to receive a delivery timeline of May-2023. Much to my disappointment, Mahindra decided to remove features from AX5 that didn’t sit well with me for the price I was expecting to pay by the delivery time and I cancelled my delivery within a month of booking. Pros: 5-Star safety rating Engines and the power (when you are upgrading from a city hatchback, it hits you the most) The overall feel of the cabin 7 seater option Cons: Delivery timelines (if not for this, we might just have ended up with this car perhaps) Feature pack at the booking and the removal of some features right after the booking Didn’t find the AX5 variant particularly VFM Although a good design, I did not go head-over-heels on 7OO’s design and styling Mahindra Scorpio One launch that I had high hopes on was the Scorpio. I had been following this car since the testing days and had come across multiple test cars during my trips to Mahabaleshwar and Rajasthan. Was in the showroom on the day of launch, loved the size and the capabilities of the vehicle. However, the underwhelming 3rd row, badly designed boot, the feature distribution and the overall ride quality in the 2nd row left me wanting more. I still was positive that Mahindra would do a XUV7OO with the price announcement and I will be able to get a full size, BOF, 4X4 in under 20 lakhs on road. Alas, it was not to be. Pros: Imposing road presence Engines (again) 7 seat option 4X4 Gear Expected good safety rating Cons: Pricing – Mahindra decided to not do a XUV7OO type launch pricing Feature distribution – With the launch done, the feature distribution between Z4 AT 4WD and Z8 AT 4WD seemed heavily skewed to push Z8 sales which was quite steep in my opinion, even at launch. 2nd row ride quality 3rd row space Awkwardly designed boot Special Mention Although all Mahindra cars went out of consideration, the overall showroom experience including the test drives, SA willingness for updates even during the Scorpio N launch rush was commendable. I found the follow ups after the 7OO booking and general customer focus to be really good as well. With the entire Mahindra portfolio suddenly out of contention, I switched my attention to Tata and paid a visit to the Garve Tata showroom in Baner. Normal Things Can Happen Strangely and strange things can happen normally. Tata Nexon As we already have 2 Tata cars in the family – a Tiago and Nexon, Tata was not unfamiliar territory for me, but I kept my expectations low due to all the stories and experiences I read about on the forum and my 2 friends who went for Taigun and Kushaq. Pros: 5-Star safety rating Feature loaded on top-end trims Dark edition looked mean Cons: The AMT gearbox Next Gen update will happen soon Family did not want a second Nexon in the house For some strange super-natural reason that I am yet to figure out ![]() Came home to share the news and was met with a hugely underwhelming response from everyone. I insisted that they have a look at the Dark edition and decide further. We visited the showroom again after a couple of days and at this point my experience with the dealership, the SA and Tata Motors in general started to shape my decision. My SA, Mr. Manish who was keenly engaged and observing our conversations, took us to their Tathawade showroom to check out the Nexon Dark in person, answered questions from the family and observed that the booking may not materialize to a delivery. Ultimate Decision Upon return to the Baner showroom, Mr. Manish informed me that there is 2 Harrier XZA+ in the inventory with the applicable discounts – Orcus White DT and a Dark Edition. The white car had been in the showroom for public experience since we booked Nexon and was not keen on the same. However, the moment the Dark edition was mentioned, my heart knew where it was going. The car was at the dealer stockyard, and I asked for the VIN to check the manufactured date (turned out to be a Jul-2022 model). With the initial impression positive, I requested to do a PDI before making a final decision. The day turned out to be an impromptu work day leave – Reached the stockyard only to experience Love at first sight. The car sought attention like nothing else. I quickly opened the Team-Bhp PDI checklist and bhpian SMG’s detailed post on my phone, spent an hour checking the car and by the end of it, pretty much made up my mind to go for it. And suddenly within an hour, what seemed like a casual enquiry, turned into an impromptu office leave, leading to stockyard visit for a PDI with family. With the Team-BHP PDI list and bhpian SMG’s detailed post open on my phone, we reached the stockyard for the PDI. Love at First Sight Nothing had prepared me for this moment. Not even seeing the same car on the road every day, reading every page of the Harrier review on team-bhp, watching every possible video on You Tube or even checking out the car in showroom. You just know “This is IT”. And that feeling of knowing that this was it, I started checking the car from all aspects based on the checklist. Close to an hour later with all vitals checked, I was happy with what I was seeing, and we decided to give a go ahead to Manish to block the car for me and reached back to the showroom to discuss the final pricing and other details. ![]() The Final Leg We reached back to the showroom and spent the next hour to discuss the discounts, exchange price and bonus of our Eon and other incentives that the dealer would provide. Decided to get the car registered with “Bharat” series keeping the flexibility in mind. All things considered, we landed on a common ground and sealed the deal, shared a tentative delivery date in the Ganpati week (test of my patience started from this point) Special Mention Given that I have been on this journey for most of 8 months and dealt with multiple brands both at my home and showrooms namely Mahindra, Tata, Jeep, and VW; I’d say the experience has been great. Although we dropped VW from the race early on, credit where due, both from Mahindra and Tata, received test drives as and when requested (both long and short), need for follow ups were minimal, updates were regular, was catered to during showrooms visits and to top it all, even my over-excited kids were given due care and attention at the dealership and test-drives. Special mention to Mr. Manish, who got the paperwork and other formalities completed for the delivery of my car. A cool-headed guy with a sober head on shoulders who supported us through this tale of twists to bring home our beast – the TATA Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition. Pros: Menacing Looks and the Butch styling in that Oberon Black Color Engine-Gearbox Combo The feature list that ticked almost all my requirements (no end to the desires but the actual, usable features are all there) Rear Seat space and overall ride comfort High speed stability, comfort and handling Cons: Fit & Finish of some plastic and Rubber parts in general, although panel gaps and alignment was spot on my car Found the steering a bit heavy but quite possible it is due to what I drove earlier. I am positive I will get used to it with more miles done Infotainmaint – I am used to Apple products and couldn’t help but notice the difference in the screen resolutions, crispness and overall response and sensitivity of the screen No TPMS – Surprising as the Nexon gets it Accessories and TLC for the Beast As part of my gratitude to the dealership for the great service provided, I decided to opt for accessories at the dealer end: 1. Garware PPF Coating with Ceramic coating on the roof 2. Sidestep (make the car look more meaner in my opinion) 3. 7-D Mats 4. Mudflaps 5. Trunk Mat 6. Scuff Plates (Front & Rear) 7. Door Visors 8. Dummy Exhaust Garnish (the only chrome bit on the car) 9. Rear Bumper Garnish (Black color from the Kaziranga edition) 10. Door Edge Guard Pre-Delivery Experience Being the super-excited, petrol head, I made several trips to both showrooms, multiple times to check out the car. Car arrived from stockyard to showroom ![]() Car back from the studio after the PPF Coating ![]() During the accessories fitment ![]() The entire staff across both showrooms had a receptive demeanor, helped with questions with a smile and never felt irritated either by frequent visits or by my enthusiastic son, who literally made the showroom a playground for himself. Delivery Experience Fixed up the delivery time for the evening of 08-Sep-2022, we informed Manish of the same. Arrived at the showroom with the family and friends, all the items for Pooja, although they had it ready from their end. After completing the final payments, and reviewing the paperwork, without anything pending or a glitch, the BIG Moment arrived. Performed the Pooja from my daughter with mandatory photo sessions after that. Met, thanked and distributed sweets to the entire showroom staff before driving off to the nearest temple. With close to 350 kms on ODO, sharing the very initial observations: Exterior 1. The genuine accessory sun-visors with a chrome lining is the only chrome accent on the side of the car. They, however create a small blind-spot at the spot where they merge with the ORVM on the driver's side (will look at getting the bottom few inches cut cleanly at the first service, if not then might remove them entirely). 2. Got the side step (again a Tata genuine accessory) installed to prevent damage to the door bottoms and help my elderly parents to get in the car. Bonus - Enhances the looks and helps prevent splashes to the doors. 3. Didn't find any alarming panel gaps on the external panels. 4. The wipers don't have the clean, friction-less sweep I was hoping for in such a big car. They make a slight screeching noise during operation; will get it checked as soon as I get some time off from work. 5. The work done for PPF installation by the dealership seems to be good in these initial days. It is under a 15-day observation as per the PPF manufacturer (Garware). The incessant rains in Pune for past week have ensured stress testing of the PPF in this period. There will be a warranty check by the Garware team before signing-off and the 5-year warranty will start from that date. The #Dark and other badges and mascots will be reinstalled after that (Cant wait to put on the Team-BHP stickers). Interiors 1. Finding a comfortable driving position was easy with steering adjustable for reach and rake, 6-way adjustable electric driving seat - No knee-brushing with lower dash. 2. The ventilated front seats spoils you (although the weather right now doesn't warrant it, but they will be appreciated in 45-48 degree summers in hometown in Jaisalmer. 3. The steering is a bit heavy at slow speeds. Yet to test on a proper highway run to see high speed behaviour. 4. The driver seat has an odd sound when driving through bumps or speed breakers that need to be checked at the ASC (could not figure what and why is it happening). 5. The glovebox is illuminated and cooled, but felt a size small for the size of the car. 6. The JBL Audio system is just mind-blowing - playing around with settings for music preferences. 7. Apple CarPlay is generally good and responsive, but Siri doesn't respond quickly. 8. AC is a chiller and cools sufficiently even at fan speed of 1. 9. The Benecke-Kaliko leather seats are supportive. Being black in color, should be easier to maintain. 10. The Black interiors are a pleasure to be in and ooze a sense of style. Soft touch dashtop is premium. 11. Overall NVH levels are good and have not felt any vibrations or harshness inside the cabin. 12. The panoramic sunroof lets a lot of light and air in the cabin - waiting for clear skies to enjoy a star-lit night drive. 13. The rear seats are fairly wide, I was able to get 4 persons (leaner ones, of course) seated in the back. Other Points 1. Opted in for the 2-year Extended Warranty Package for the peace of mind. 2. Had 40 kms on ODO at PDI, 130 kms at Delivery (car went to the studio for PPF before coming to showroom) 3. DEF tank was ~80% full at delivery. 4. Build quality is solid (had trained family members to shut doors lightly on my Eon - reverse training going on right now) 5. I am getting used to the engine's torquey nature and the "Sport" Mode; overall engine-gearbox combo is exhilarating and builds speeds fast. 6. Slow speed ride is a bit stiff, but allows to take broken roads with aplomb. Yet to stretch legs on a highway run. 7. Got fuel of INR 1,000 at delivery. The car grabs attention by spades. Plan to stretch it's legs on the expressway soon and understand the beast a bit more. Will continue to keep the thread updated as I munch more miles and other key aspects like the PPF performance. Thanks for reading on. Signing Off With Some Pictures. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Last edited by Jaisalmeriya : 15th September 2022 at 20:11. |
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| Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Congratulations on owning the beast!! Similar to my story, where decision was made in a moment and beast was with us in a week. Enjoy your rides and keep posting about positives and negatives.. Keep Revving.. |
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| Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Great Write-up for a equally great car. It's menacing in black. Fit & finish has improved greatly in Tata cars and I could barely notice NVH or BSR during the long drive last weekend. I am sucker for black and really happy that you opted for this trips. Turns my head whenever I see this or the Nexon in all black avatar. I will be subscribing to this thread. Keep us updated. Harrier - true to its name - has made an incursion in my mind, off late. |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Congratulations on the car!!! Wish you both countless happy miles together :-) Can you please post some pictures of the 7D mat and how much did it cost? The thread needs a lot more pictures :-D --Anoop |
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The 7D mats cost INR ~6,000 post adjustment of the cost of 3D mats of the accessory pack (The standalone cost of 7D mats was quoted at INR 9,000). Mod Note: Please use the EDIT or QUOTE+ (multi-quote) button instead of typing one post after another on the SAME THREAD! To know how to multi-quote, click here. We advise you to read the Forum Rules before proceeding any further. Last edited by libranof1987 : 17th September 2022 at 17:08. Reason: Merging back-to-back posts. | ||||
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| Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Congratulations on your new car! Quote:
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I got 7D mats, boot mat and auto dimming IRVM from showroom itself as they offered a great discount. Happy with all 3. On a final note: please let me know if you are able to find a solution for the wiper issue. It makes an annoying screeching sound , so much so that I have turned off auto rain sensing wipers and turn them only during heavy rains. Last edited by BleueNinja : 16th September 2022 at 14:25. | |||
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| Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Congratulations for the beast. The dark adition indeed very attractive and tempting to own. I was on the edge to go for harrier dark, yet kept my excitement in check for the hit and miss with Tata ASS. I pray you have a pleasant ownership experience and fulfilling trip in your harrier. Please keep updating the ownership experience. |
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| Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Hearty Congratulations! Your beast looks awesome in pictures - it can stop a few beats for hatch-back drivers like me on seeing such imposing machines zoom past on the highways! Honestly, when i spot such muscular SUVs charging aggressively in rear-view mirror, I just make way for them. I'm sure you'll have similar experience in future... Wish you lakhs of enjoyable miles and fuss-free ownership. Regards |
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![]() However, my experience has been decent so far. I gave my car for 1000 kms check up and pointed out all the minor issues i had. Service advisor noted them , understood patiently and rectified all of them. Visiting the service centre was an entirely different experience though, coming from Honda and VW i am used to a different environment at a service centre but i had tuned my expectations accordingly. I had to wait 50 mins before a service advisor attended me but they delivered the car on promised time and rectified issues so it's a ![]() Let's see how it ages. | |
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| Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Congratulations on your new ride. Harrier and Safari have some next level road presence. Just cannot keep my eyes off them everytime I see one ![]() Also happy to see the way Indian manufacturers have been evolving and how they are now going up against some of the heavyweights & established players in the industry with products that people aspire to own some day. Truly something to be proud about. Looking forward to you & your vehicle putting up some crazy numbers on the odometer ![]() |
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| Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition 350 KM Update 22-Sep-2022 Sharing some pictures to start with: ![]() ![]() ![]() I Have not been able to go on a decent long run owing to work commitments, and we have just pottered around in the city and some office runs so far. The Good So Far: 1. The car now proudly dons the Live to Drive Team-BHP sticker. 2. The PPF coating has held up well in spite of the heavy Pune rains and the car being parked in open for a few days. 3. The rain-battered roads across Pune, helped me appreciate the awesome ride quality of the Harrier. The ability to glide through almost all kinds of terrain – good roads, bad roads, no roads et al, with absolute ease was reassuring. 4. Power delivery is smooth and linear. The gear shifts are smooth. The car pulls cleanly. 5. No squeaks, rattles or noises were observed so far in the car. 6. Apple CarPlay connection works seamlessly and observed no abrupt disconnections. 7. Have driven the car in Eco and City modes only so far. Will try Sport mode post the 1,000 km mark. 8. Installed 70MAI Pro Plus+ A5005 (Front and Rear) Dashcam with Samsung Evo Plus 128GB SD card. Although I got the hardwiring kit, I am still unsure if I want to go that route considering the warranty issues – I will update the thread with a detailed observation soon. 9. Although I didn’t expect to visit the ASS even before the first service was due (issues listed below), the overall experience and the attention from the CRM and the ASS team were spot on for quick resolutions. The Not-So-Good So Far: 1. First ASS Visit even before the First Service was due: a. The driver’s side seat seems to have an issue; there seems to be some movement causing a ‘thud’ type of noise on bumps and rough roads. The overall seat fitment is just not right. Got it checked and acknowledged at the ASS and am informed that this will need to be checked by the seat vendor (who happens to be in Pune only) at the first service. The resolution will be provided upon their inspection. Will keep the thread posted. b. Faulty right-side wipe blade was replaced 2. Siri does not listen in my normal tone and volume – Almost every time, I need to almost shout for it to listen Adding a few pictures of the accessories, that were requested by fellow members Door Visor – Front ![]() Door Visor – Rear ![]() The Official Accessory 7D Mats ![]() ![]() Boot Mat ![]() Dashcam and Wiring ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Found a comfortable driving position – No knee-brushing on the lower dash ![]() Small blind spot due to the door-visors ![]() I am itching to get out on a long drive in the Harrier and get a proper photo session done. Hoping to get out somewhere soon just to stretch our legs. Experimenting with the detailed features, Apple CarPlay, Dashcam etc. is ongoing and will share focused updates on each of these items going forward. Thanks for reading. Last edited by Jaisalmeriya : 23rd September 2022 at 20:49. |
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| Re: Answer to my Car Quest | The Tata Harrier XZA+ Dark Edition Hi. Congratulations on your new car. by the way can you tell me what discount was offered to you? Thanks in advance |
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