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Old 25th October 2022, 22:47   #151
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Congratulations on your new car. Was this the facelift car with upgraded speakers and flat steering or the older one MY22?
Thankyou so much, sir. No it is the older MY22 model. I was informed about the upcoming facelift, but there were no in-stock discounts available on that. That was the reason we decided to proceed with our original booking. Honestly it has been a fantastic experience, driving our first luxury car till now.
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I took delivery of my A4 Technology Edition over the weekend. Mine is the MY 2023 model with the flat bottom steering wheel and the new B&O music system. I have been informed that it is the first MY 2023 A4 delivered in Blr. The car is Navarro Blue with the Okapi Brown interior. The car is intended to be a self driven vehicle with very occasional chauffeur driven use as we have a 2.8 Innova Crysta ZX (with the captain seats) for when we are chauffeur driven.

I had a pleasant experience with Audi Bengaluru (details of the pricing are confidential due to multiple vehicles being purchased by a few friends and I). Insurance was taken from outside. Mr Sandeep from Audi Bengaluru deserves special credit for his service levels and customer management.

The MyAudiConnect dongle is not yet provided due to a shortage and will be provided in January 2023. The cost of the same is built into the overall price already.

We did consider the Skoda Superb as well but we felt that even though it is significantly less expensive, as a self driven car, it would be too large, especially for my wife to drive, and further, the luxury levels in the A4 were in our view worth the price difference.

I will post a more detailed review and pictures in the next few days.

PS: The least that thing Audi can do is print an owners manual with a right hand drive car featured. Both the brochure and the manual are for left hand drive cars. Come on Audi.
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I will post a more detailed review and pictures in the next few days.
Waiting for your detailed review and pictures. Cheers!!

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I took delivery of my A4 Technology Edition over the weekend.

PS: The least that thing Audi can do is print an owners manual with a right hand drive car featured. Both the brochure and the manual are for left hand drive cars. Come on Audi.
Hearty congratulations. Enjoy the luxury and the many miles.

As for the manual, wait till you start reading it. It surely takes humongous efforts to read. It’s a really badly designed one.
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I took delivery of my A4 Technology Edition over the weekend. Mine is the MY 2023 model with the flat bottom steering wheel and the new B&O music system. I have been informed that it is the first MY 2023 A4 delivered in Blr. The car is Navarro Blue with the Okapi Brown interior. The car is intended to be a self driven vehicle with very occasional chauffeur driven use as we have a 2.8 Innova Crysta ZX (with the captain seats) for when we are chauffeur driven.
Congratulations, I test drove one in Mumbai, the car look amazing in Blue Color.

Being the year end, did you get the discount from them?
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Congratulations, I test drove one in Mumbai, the car look amazing in Blue Color.

Being the year end, did you get the discount from them?
As I mentioned in the earlier post, I am not at liberty to disclose prices. However, yes, I did get a discount, which takes into account that its an MY 2023 car and also that a few of us bought multiple vehicles at the same time.

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Hearty congratulations. Enjoy the luxury and the many miles.

As for the manual, wait till you start reading it. It surely takes humongous efforts to read. It’s a really badly designed one.
Agree - It is painful indeed.

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Waiting for your detailed review and pictures. Cheers!!
Will hopefully find time over the weekend to upload some pictures and post a review.

Thank you all for your wishes.
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One year and 10,000 Km Update

One year and 10,000 Km – It’s been a fun journey so far. This jack of all trade car has really been practical and at the same time fun to drive.
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The car is good looking inside out and is the favourite in the family.
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Luxury: Although the Audi brand doesn’t command the same attention as the other two Germans – the A4 is a good mix of all that is expected from a luxury car and still doesn’t compromise on the practicality expected from a daily driver.
1. A good metric of luxury is how isolated you are from the outside world when inside a car. The A4 encloses you into a tomb-like silence and keeps the cacophony from the outside far away.
2. Another good metric of luxury is recognition. I was surprised to see that now Audi, especially a sedan is actually very exclusive among the sea of Beemer and Mercs. On many an occasion, I did not need to pull out my valet ticket at hotels. They just say “Blue Audi sir?” and my humble A4 is brought to me usually behind a 5 series or Merc GLE.
3. The aggressive front with the new DRLs make the car look sportier than it actually is. On highways many cars just move left, leaving the fast lane for me.
4. Having sat in the car for hours in traffic, I have searched for but not found any manufacturing defect in the interior. Panel gaps are consistent and materials all over is good. This car is built to high standards with a good attention to detail.

Comfort:
One look at the low-slung sedan and a relative of mine refused to sit in the A4. He preferred the other car waiting which was a Suzuki Baleno. It is hard to imagine a car that sits so close to the road actually has a tall seating position. All those who did get into the car were surprised with the space and seating position.
I once drove over a dirt road to enter a resort in Kabini. Half an hour later I was sitting in a Thar going over the same dirt road. This is the moment I had a new found appreciation for the A4’s suspension. In the Thar I was trying to hold onto something, anything to stop my body from bouncing around. In the A4, my wife asked me why I was driving so slow over a decent road.

Practicality:
Small enough to easily manoeuvre in our city roads. A suspension that’s comfortable but also stiff enough to ensure no scraping of the underbelly in our cities and also rural roads.
A large square boot with the spare tyre neatly tucked away ensures all the luggage for long family trips easily fits in the boot.
We spent 2 weeks in Pune for a family event and the A4 was perfect for all the Airport Pickup/ Drops and ferrying all the relatives to various venues.

In the picture below, all the luggage went in and there was still place for 2 more duff bags and a 5 Ltr mineral water bottle.
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Ground Clearance:
If only I got a penny for every time I was asked if the car touches bottom on our roads.
Short answer is No.
The short wheelbase and the suspension setup make this a go anywhere car.
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I was questioned so many times about the ground clearance that I just went ahead and measured it.

The pictures below show measurement with the boot empty and no passenger inside. With the boot full, the nose lifts up a bit increasing the minimum ground clearance. The figures are guidelines and not actual as the surface is not exactly even.

The lowest point is the front wheel wind diffuser. This was measured at only 150 mm.
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The space below the engine cover was measured at 165 mm
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Even the rear is lower than other sedans. Pictured below with a 3 series and a Slavia.
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Living with the A4:
We get two keys with the car and each can be paired to a user profile. One key is used by my wife and the other by me. We have put distinct covers to differentiate them.
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After 5 months away at sea, I just opened the car with my key and the seats, ORVM and Media Interface changed to my settings set 5 months ago. The user profiles essentially save the last used settings. This is independent to the 2 memory settings for the seat on the driver side doors. So essentially, we can save User Profiles + 2 additional settings (door buttons) for the driver seat and ORVM.

This technology edition also gets the ‘Comfort Seat’ option. When the driver’s side door is opened the seat moves back and when the ignition is turned on, the seat comes back forward to the memory setting. This is a simple but useful feature.
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The Audi Multimedia Interface is simple and the large screen is useful when using Apple Carplay.
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After a few days, the Apple Carplay stopped working. Found out that it was common in Audi for aftermarket lightening cable to stop working. The issue was fixed by using an original Apple cable.

The Carlinkit 3.0 (CPC200–U2W Plus) used to make CarPlay wireless works without any problems. It takes a few seconds to bootup and connect to the phone when the car is switched on.
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The convenience of wireless ACP was so that the wireless charger can be used and there are fewer cables running around. Unfortunately, my iPhone gets so hot when charging wirelessly that is shuts off. I have tried without the case, placing exactly in the centre e.tc but it overheats every time. Now the wireless charging function is permanently off. The mobile signal booster in the Audi Phone Box still works with the wireless charging off and its very useful in rural areas.
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The small, deep storage compartment to the right of the steering wheel is usually used to store the user manual. I found this space to get cold when the air conditioning is on. Since there is no vent inside, I guess it is a defect. Any case, now I use it as a cool box to keep small bottles of water cold.
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The door pockets can hold a 1 Ltr mineral water bottle but my ‘Wide-Mouth Hydro Flask’ is too large and doesn’t fit. The door pockets do not get soft material lining so if there are loose items like a spectacle case, the door rattles with the music.
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The Audi rubber mats were just too hard and they make the car look utilitarian. They are ok for a rugged SUV but look out of place in a luxury sedan. After a lot of deliberation, installed the 3M noodle mats. They are softer and more carpet-like than the hard rubber mats.
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On my last ship, we were required to move a new Toyota RAV4 whose battery was dead. A quick google search helped us to disengage the automatic gearbox but without power, disengaging the electronic parking brakes is too complicated. I realised that every car with an electronic brake must have a jump start battery as part of the emergency kit. Picked up a 70mai jump starter kit. I have used it to jump start a MY 2022 Tata Safari. It also comes with the 12V socket so now I can fill air in the tyres using my portable compressor drawing power from this battery instead of the car.
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The PPF put on the entire car immediately after the delivery has proven itself worth the risk. Most of the scratches are made by individuals when the car is parked. The XPEL branded PPF is not self-healing as advertised but the folks at ‘Cars Buddy’ have managed to remove all scratches.
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The ClearPlex windshield protector has also proven its worth. Had a stone falling from a truck hit the windshield at high speed. The ClearPlex has taken the hit leaving the glass of the windshield intact. This protector film scratches very easily and already there are many marks across it. I expect the scratches to start hampering night vision within two years of installation.
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Although I have driven Audi cars abroad, on Indian roads I now understand why VW group cars are so loved. Precise highspeed dynamics with a sharp accurate steering (on the lighter side exactly how I like it) makes long drives so much fun. This car will not set any track on fire, but with the comfortable suspension and practical boot, this is a perfect car to keep both passengers and the driver happy.

I was never happy with the OEM tyres. I tried to get them changed at the dealership before delivery. I was told it was not an option. After running in the car, I still felt that a different set of tyres will improve the dynamics of the car. So instead of waiting for the usual 30,000 Km mark I just traded in the OEM tyres at 3,000 Km mark. The Michelin Pilot Sport 4 have a lot more grip. This has improved acceleration and cornering. They have made low speed ride a bit stiffer.
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During mild braking, I found the car sometimes lurches forward as if suddenly part of the brakes got disengaged. Also, when coasting sometimes there is a resistance and the car is not coasting freely other times there is no resistance. Later found this is due to the regeneration cycle of the mild hybrid system.
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The stop/ start mild hybrid system gets aggressive once the remaining fuel range is below 100 Km.
Once in Pune, we left Khadakwasla at 6:00 PM and reached our destination in Keshav Nagar at 11:45 PM. The 30 Km route took us 5 Hrs 45 min! Once the fuel range went below 20 Km, the mild hybrid kept shutting off the engine even with the A/C on. At our destination, the MyAudi app showed 2.8 Ltr fuel remaining.
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The car just got serviced at Audi Bengaluru service centre. I tried to get the servicing done in October but the dates I was free, they did not take bookings. I was told they were busy with the flood damaged cars and it was better to get a booking instead of a walk-in.
By the time the car went in for servicing I was already onboard my next ship. The service advisor kept me in copy for all communication since my wife is the primary owner.
They did not push too many addons, the car required a clean anyways and we had to use the pickup/ drop facility. So 30k for the first service was not bad. All the old parts which were replaced were sent back to us in the boot.
Overall, I am happy with the service.
Also, would like to mention that my Sales Advisor at Audi Central Bengaluru from a year ago still keeps in touch. I have troubled him for small things and he has always responded to my messages and answered my calls immediately.

My ownership experience these past twelve months of the Audi car and the brand in general has been good.
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Thank you to Gungax for such a detailed review. As promised in my previous post, am uploading a few pictures. Since quite a bit has been discussed in these pages, am focusing on those pictures that add value to this thread.


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The flat bottom steering wheel (MY 2023 car feature)



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View of the drivers side of the car with the flatbottom sheering wheel and the Okapi Brown interior


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Another view of the driver's seat and the instrumentation

One of the interesting features of the Technology Variant is the all digital instrumentation and the ability to customise the look of the dash and meter panel. Here are a few different options - The picture may not be too clear as I had not yet removed the cling film from the meter console.

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I have been using different looks for different days. The car gives you a warning if you are trying to shift the displays when on the move as it can be distracting.

The best mileage that I have managed to eke out is 10.8 in peak hour city traffic with a very light foot and in "Efficiency Mode". The worst that I have got is 6.9 in similar conditions with aggressive acceleration and in Dynamic Mode.

Also had an opportunity to drive down on the new Mysore Road to Maddur this weekend with two fellow German Sedans for company. A Mercedes CLA and a BMW 530D. Was a good opportunity to stretch the car and put her through her paces. There is the annoying beep above XXX km/h but other than that, the highway run was magnificent. The car kept pace with the big beemer in most places except in one long straight stretch when the power of the 5 shone through. 2021 Audi A4 2.0 TSI Technology Ownership Review-img20221113wa0026.jpg

All my cars are absolutely stock and so is this one. I am happy with the B&O system and it is more than enough for my needs.

The one niggle that I face is that the drivers side door armrest is too low and could be higher to rest one's elbow. Aside from that, am loving the car.

The rear seat is more than adequate for two people and given that we have an Innova Crysta ZX (2.8), we do not think we will need to squeeze 3 in the rear seat.
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Thank you to Gungax for such a detailed review. As promised in my previous post, am uploading a few pictures. Since quite a bit has been discussed in these pages, am focusing on those pictures that add value to this thread.
Congratulations on your new ride. The new music system and steering wheel really improve the value of the car. Hope the increased number of A4 being sold will encourage Audi to bring in more equipment and variants. Really missing that Quattro system, it would have helped in the Bangalore rains.

Your RS style screen as shown below doesn't show in the 2021 models.
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I too have settled onto the full digital display as my favourite.
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If you see mine below, the fuel gauge has been removed. So when you accelerate there is a nice white and red slope that moves along with the RPM, looks much better. The fuel gauge can be put in the centre where you now have the time and date.
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What a wonderful thread, a true underdog story. A car so capable, held back by the purported lack of brand value. I will be following this thread closely, given the unique proposition the A4 brings to the table, being the rare one amongst the plethora of 3 series and C classes, the build quality, a trait that has been repeatedly highlighted by multiple owners and the massive value proposition the A4 presents. Wishing everyone lakhs of kilometres of driving pleasure, comfort and peace of mind. Peace

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This technology edition also gets the ‘Comfort Seat’ option. When the driver’s side door is opened the seat moves back and when the ignition is turned on, the seat comes back forward to the memory setting. This is a simple but useful feature.
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Quick query, I have observed VAG owners being able to activate certain features not made available by the manufacturer in the country but are inherently hidden away, which could be activated by certain professionals(coders?!). Would the ‘comfort seat’ be such a feature that can be activated in the lower trims like premium and premium plus.

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Quick query, I have observed VAG owners being able to activate certain features not made available by the manufacturer in the country but are inherently hidden away, which could be activated by certain professionals(coders?!). Would the ‘comfort seat’ be such a feature that can be activated in the lower trims like premium and premium plus.

For that, the car needs the memory seat module so that it can come back to the correct position post entry. It is possible to retrofit the memory module for the Premium and PP but until then comfort seat won't work.

Hope this helps!
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For that, the car needs the memory seat module so that it can come back to the correct position post entry. It is possible to retrofit the memory module for the Premium and PP but until then comfort seat won't work.

Hope this helps!
Indeed. As an owner of the A4 premium, would you be considering such a move? If yes, kindly post updates if you do go through with it. Peace
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Indeed. As an owner of the A4 premium, would you be considering such a move? If yes, kindly post updates if you do go through with it. Peace
Longing for it, but will only consider installation post the warranty period of 5 years
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Quick query, I have observed VAG owners being able to activate certain features not made available by the manufacturer in the country but are inherently hidden away, which could be activated by certain professionals(coders?!). Would the ‘comfort seat’ be such a feature that can be activated in the lower trims like premium and premium plus.
I have an OBDEleven device purchased specifically for the A4.
My experience has been that in the technology trim, if the hardware exists then the feature is already available.

So the "Apps" for the OBDEleven are unusable because the features it unlocks requires additional hardware. Example: You can unlock the "G" sensor display in the instrument cluster but since the car doesn't have a "G" sensor module, the display will always show zero G-force.
These small OBD dongles only change values in the BCM module. The Indian Government mandated speed warning is encoded into the ECU module. So the OBD dongle can't even remove the speed warning. Any case, if a coder changes ECU values, they are reset during the next routine service.

If the car has memory function then Comfort Seat can be activated.
Even small modifications are frowned upon by Audi and the warranty is at risk.
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Thank you for such a precise answer Gungax. To sum it up, shell out the moolah, get the top trim if budget allows, the warranty remains honoured and peace of mind tags alone.
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