[Illuminati]

Congratulations on your car. Wishing you a lot of happy memories with it.

[*]Loaded to the gills (front/rear parking sensors, android auto/carplay, cruise control, auto headlamps & wipers, dual zone AC etc.)

Isn't FPAS (front parking assist sensors) is available only in W8(O) variant ? Have you got it done separately at dealer's end?

[Vijin]

Originally Posted by The Rationalist

But the 5* safety it offers can compensate for all minor irritants.

Originally Posted by vivek_lm

I'm considering an upgrade later this year and XUV300 AMT is right up there on my shortlist. Therefore, I've been scouting for credible ownership reviews, particularly of the AMT, to no avail until now. Can't thank you enough!

More than happy to help.

Originally Posted by Illuminati

Isn't FPAS (front parking assist sensors) is available only in W8(O) variant ? Have you got it done separately at dealer's end?

Yes, this was done extra by MASS folks. Costed around Rs. 2.5k.

[AZT]

Hi Vijin,

Fantastic review and good choice of colour, the car looks beautiful. I personally love the XUV 300 and it would be a major head vs heart fight for me if I was shopping in this category. Head would say Hyundai for the brand and bootspace, heart would say XUV 300 for the size and butch looks.

[akshay_ritz]

Originally Posted by ramnaresh_2000

Congratulations on your car. The colour looks stunning. Picture credit has cracked me open. It is good to see dead peddle on AMT. I own TUV 300 AMT and I dearly miss this creature comfort.

My AMT has been a nightmare experience. Little caution of advise, whenever you see AMT light flashing, visit MASS immediately. I found VVC kondapur AMT tuning better than Automotive MASS tuning. My vehicle had multiple breakdown issues due to AMT, so please do be careful.

I used to park my vehicle in A1 mode with breaks applied during red lights. This will impact AMT software and will send error codes. So please do make sure to park in N during red lights and stops.

Also please do not use manual mode, it will damage the clutch plates. I had mine replaced in just 25k kms. My verna had clutch plates replaced after 60k. It costed me 5k and after some nasty email exchanges between M&M customer service, the amount was reduced from my next service.

Happy miles.

I remember reading somewhere that TUV 300 was Mahindra's attempt at a homegrown AMT and that did not go well. The Marelli AMT seems much better but I read the Nexon thread today so fingers crossed there are no long term issues. The only issue I see sometimes is auto acceleration on second gear. It speeds off and I have to break since the speed limit in my society is 20Kmph. The car has currently completed 11000 km.

[drive1987]

Hey Vijin!

Fantastic review! Very nicely written and looks like a sensible purchase. Wish you and your loved ones many many miles of joy and safety.

[Vijin]

After reading Tata AMT issue, today, on the other thread, my confidence took a massive hit.

Originally Posted by akshay_ritz

The only issue I see sometimes is auto acceleration on second gear. It speeds off and I have to break since the speed limit in my society is 20Kmph.

Hi Akshay_ritz, Could you add some more details to this ? Very curious to know.

[Lakshit]

Congratulations and thanks Vijin for much awaited ownership review of this superb car. Sadly this car is most neglected car by masses while taking a purchase decision, but at the same time this makes your parking distinguished in the middle of fancy Korean and Japanese cars.

Originally Posted by Vijin

My take

Cabin lights:
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This image summarizes my whole feeling about this car. When you have that little partner in family and you prioritize the safety of your family over the few inches bigger touch screens or 93 liters of bigger boot or the wild designs or blah blah gimmicky useless feature list, you chose the safer one. I can vouch that 90% of car users does not even know about the use of child seats and Isofix mounts. This 5 star safety rated drive gives you the confidence of safety while you are out on the road.

A lot is already said and known about the ride and handling quality, engine capabilities and about build quality this car carries, so i have nothing more to comment about these.

Hyderabad to Trivendrum is about 1200 Kms., Your feedback of no sign of fatigue or tiredness during solo trip made me wonder whether credit goes to whom more, the AMT or the overall ride and handling quality of the car. You may please ellobrate more about total time taken for journey and halts taken.

[Vijin]

Originally Posted by Lakshit

This 5 star safety rated drive gives you the confidence of safety while you are out on the road.

Hyderabad to Trivendrum is about 1200 Kms., Your feedback of no sign of fatigue or tiredness during solo trip made me wonder whether credit goes to whom more, the AMT or the overall ride and handling quality of the car. .

Thanks for the feedback Lakshit. You are absolutely right about the confidence part. Nowadays, even for short trips this car becomes my automatic choice because of the same reason.
Hyderabad to Trivandrum trip was 1386 km to be precise. I think it was the combination of AMT and cruise control which helped me here. Additionally, irrespective of how I feel, I usually force myself to take a break after every 2 hours of drive. I make this either a short recess for stretching or a longer meal break.
Due to the ongoing pandemic and the lockdown, I wanted to avoid public transport and hence thought of driving all the way south. Furthermore, as there were limited options for night halt, I decided to stay at my relative’s hotel near Trichur. This meant I had to take a small detour and travel an additional 130 km.
Day 1: Hyderabad -Bangalore-Salem-Coimbatore-Trichur (20 hours - 05:30AM to 01:30AM)
Exact 6 hours break (01:30AM to 07:30 AM)
Day 2: Trichur to Trivandrum (6 hours – 07:30 AM to 1:30 PM)

By the way, I meant I was the sole driver, my family was accompanying me on this trip.

[Vijin]

Originally Posted by nimishlalwani

I was looking at the location of the air purifier but I couldn't figure out its position. I hope it's not on the airbag, as it could be very risky.

Wish you many happy miles with the XUV!

Thanks for the wish @nimishlalwani. I have placed airpurifier on the dash area directly above the central console. There is some space here where people usually keep idols (which due to its design lines might deceive you as a compartment, at first look).

Originally Posted by ramnaresh_2000

Congratulations on your car. The colour looks stunning. Picture credit has cracked me open.
I found VVC kondapur AMT tuning better than Automotive MASS tuning. My vehicle had multiple breakdown issues due to AMT, so please do be careful.

Thanks for the wishes and feedbacks @ramnaresh.
When my wife saw that speed ticket and attached pic, she was joking I would have anyway paid for such skillset.

Good to know there is an experienced BHPian in the neighbourhood. I was preferring Automotive Mahindra SC only because of the rapport with SA. Will keep an eye out and check the facility at VVC folks as well.

[MasterChief]

Thanks for a nice ownership review.

You wrote "

As recommended by SA, I move AMT to N when I need to stop the vehicle for more than few seconds. I have been advised about how braking for longer duration in creep mode causes overheating related issues

".

I think I read in a TeamBHP thread itself that in modern automatic cars it is not required as when the brakes are fully pressed and the speed is 0, it engages neutral automatically. In fact, shifting too often in stop and go traffic will result in more wear and tear. I drive a Seltos CVT and never shifts to neutral on stopping.

So, others may chip in that what's the best course of action? Or is it specifically with AMT that one needs to shift to neutral repeatedly on stopping?

[Vijin]

Originally Posted by MasterChief

Thanks for a nice ownership review.

Or is it specifically with AMT that one needs to shift to neutral repeatedly on stopping?

Thanks for the feedback MasterChief. I am afraid I not the best candidate to comment on other types of automatics. However, based on my understanding, for DCT/DSG and AMT types, it is recommended to have foot off the brake while in creep mode or move to N if braking needed for longer time.

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by MasterChief

So, others may chip in that what's the best course of action? Or is it specifically with AMT that one needs to shift to neutral repeatedly on stopping?

We have two automatics at home (Ertiga is a 4-speed TC and Alto K10 is a 5-speed AMT). Whenever I drive either of them, I make it a habit to shift to Neutral, lift my foot off the brake pedal and pull the handbrake when waiting at a traffic signal. In slow-moving bumper-to-bumper traffic, I regulate using the brake pedal.

If the traffic is dense and too many stop-go situations, I'll prefer to shift to neutral rather than staying in 'D'. Ertiga that we have, comes equipped with automatic start/stop system so the engine switches off 90% of the time in bumper-to-bumper traffic which is really irritating hence I keep that feature off whenever I get to drive it.

Do go through the owner's manual of the respective car, it shall mention the best way to use the transmission in such cases without stressing/overheating the unit.

Originally Posted by Vijin

However, based on my understanding, for DCT/DSG and AMT types, it is recommended to have a foot off the brake while in creep mode or move to N if braking needed for a longer time.

[akshay_ritz]

Originally Posted by Vijin

After reading Tata AMT issue, today, on the other thread, my confidence took a massive hit.



Hi Akshay_ritz, Could you add some more details to this? Very curious to know.

It always happens after a cold start. I am generally hovering around 20 Kmh since that is the speed limit in my society. The car stays on first gear for some time and then when it slots into second, there is a sudden burst of acceleration without any input from my side. It just shoots forward and I have to break to keep it in check. This never happens in an open road when you go from zero to 60 pretty quickly. It's something I am conscious about because you have a lot of people and kids walking around in the socitey.

[MasterChief]

Thanks Vijian and a4anurag for your responses. I did some searching and found this:

Originally Posted by jinojohnt

It's the other way round.

1. For AMT, It's better to wait in 'Neutral' to prevent clutch damage.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...ml#post4250749
Note: This is applicable for AMTs with creep function (e.g Maruti AMTs).
For the new Kwid AMT, no need to shift to Neutral when you wait because the car won't automatically move forward even if you release the brakes (hence no load on the clutch).

2. For regular AT, there's no reason to change to neutral every time you stop. Watch this video from 7 min 30 sec.

So, it's clear that one need to shift to neutral in an AMT car with creep function but can safely stay in Drive mode in other types. It's more of a matter of personal habit than necessity.

[Vijin]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Do go through the owner's manual of the respective car, it shall mention the best way to use the transmission in such cases without stressing/overheating the unit.

Originally Posted by MasterChief

So, it's clear that one need to shift to neutral in an AMT car with creep function but can safely stay in Drive mode in other types. It's more of a matter of personal habit than necessity.

I did recheck the XUV300 manual. It does mention that Creep will be disabled when we press brake. So it is case-by-case different even in AMTs. Thanks for the pointer.


Creep function gets disabled if any of the following conditions prevails:
• Parking brake engaged
• Driver door/ Co-driver door open
• Brake pedal pressed
• Accelerator pedal pressed
• Any faults related to clutch present

Edit: Additional point from manual - "In creep function, when the gear mode is in either “A” or “M” or “R” positions, and you release your foot off the brake pedal, the vehicle starts moving without pressing the accelerator pedal. You can hold the vehicle using the park brake for momentary stops or shift to ”N” mode."

So it is a matter of habit, I guess.