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Old 5th September 2020, 21:41   #16
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Thread moved from the Assembly Line to the Ownership Section. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks GTO!

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Thank you for sharing so much detailed views at every stage of the ownership process.



One additional aspect, if you don't mind sharing, is the visibility on the pricing aspect. What were the options that you got at what price marks? How it differed wrt the brands you looked at, and wrt the number of past owners, and conditions of the vehicle. And compared to that, a ball park figure on how much has the maintenance cost been on a yearly / overall basis?

Can you share that information? Would help a great deals for folks on the fence.
Thanks for the appreciation!

Both my cars were within the 2.5L to 3.5L range, GV being 2nd owner, Outlander being 1st.

For the GV

Cars looked at: Range was between 6.5L (2.4, 2010) to 2.15L (2.0, 2007), 1st owner to 3rd owner respectively.
Maintenance: Once a year/10k kms oil change ~ Rs. 6K. Additional expense was A/C compressor (18K), front shocks (~18K) and engine mountings, tapet value and lower arm bushings (~23K) in the last 3 years. But, I have a little OCD on car noise and maintenance & end up doing pre-emptive spends since I want the peace of mind when I do go for the long drives.

For Outlander,

I saw most cars in the 5L - 8L bracket (50k kms to 130k kms), 1st to 3rd owners.
Post purchase have got the oil changed (~6k), front shockers (18K), Pulley, Vbelt,etc (48k).

Happy to help with any other information. I maintain a detailed expense book for both cars.

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Great review! I am planning to jump the same bandwagon with a 2010-2012 Outlander as well. Seeing your review makes me think that it can still be used and maintained for another 5 years. Was also looking at CR-V 2010 (2013 if lucky and some financial aid). Would the CR-V (10) be easier to service (despite the costs)?
I did have a look around for few CRVs (2007-2010) before closing on the GV. Did not enjoy the handling and the front console so much. The high sitting gear lever did not give me much joy from an SUV perspective. Also did find out that Honda Spares are quite expensive compared to GV. It depends on your need I guess, and ability to get it serviced.

There was a time when I was seriously contemplating a Volce XC90 V8 4.4L petrol, but dropped it for after sales concerns. Still drool over one though.

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Very crisp review! I would be lying if I say that I haven't checked the used prices on both of these at times just for the sheer value the deals possess. But their age, risk of a big ticket cost and NGT ruling has stopped me from taking the plunge (at least till now ). In fact if I recall correctly, I have not seen the split tailgate in any other Japanese SUV apart from the mighty Land Cruiser.
On a lighter note, maybe you can get a CR-V next time you change from the Outlander and complete the holy trio of petrol Japanese SUVs!

As a 007 fan, I must say, very well put.
Thanks! The split tailgate then comes in the Discovery. CRV has never appealed to me, but the newer ones are looking better I feel. If the Pajero SFX came in Petrol, would have been a no-brainer.

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Great taste in cars! The Uno, Polo, GV and Outlander are all very underrated cars. You need a bit of patience with all of them (e.g. waiting for spares) but the overall quality of the product makes up for the hassles.
Thanks! I see that you're based out of Mysore. I have spent a good couple of years in Mysore. Lovely town. Got my Uno's engine 'grooved' there.

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Wonderful to see another Mitsubishi Outlander owner in the forum. I've 2016 Outlander in US as my personal vehicle. i also have a Mirage. It had done almost 30000 miles. I absolutely love my car. I stay in San Francisco, I've driven to Arizona, Utah,Nevada ,Seattle without any fuss. I have a friend here who does not drive & because of seven seats they can easily tag along.
People here were skeptical when I bought Mitsubishi over HONDA & TOYOTA, but now I'm glad that I see lot of Outlanders in US.

I wish you many many pleasant miles in both of your cars.

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A well written review of not only one, but two beautiful cars. I have to say that both the cars owned by you are really unique.

Just a question. U said that the car has 96k kms but the Odometer in one of the photos shows 58500 kms. Has the odometer been tampered with or am I missing something here?

Once again a big Congratulations on acquiring such a gem of a Vehicle. Happy miles to you.
Sorry, missed to reply to this. Firstly, thanks Sounak & secondly, good catch! You have a keen eye.

So, I saw this car over 3 weeks at the dealer. 1st time I was there, the car had clocked around 96k kms. The 3rd week I went, the meter had been moved to 56k kms. Hence, I am aware that this meter was tampered. Infact, in a lot of cars that I have seen for both purchases, almost all have had meters tampered with. But there are always a few good ones.

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Old 5th September 2020, 23:00   #17
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Re: A Tale of Outliers : Buying a used Mitsubishi Outlander & Maruti Grand Vitara

Still annoys me to no end that Mitsubishi stopped selling parts for their old cars all of a sudden. That's a source of revenue lost. I have always fancied a used Outlander but living in a tier 2 city makes sourcing parts that much more difficult for it.
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Lovely thread with crisp write up. Your car looked lovely when we had outing to Sohna hot springs last winters. Looking forward to camp out to test off road grunt. Tempted to look at Outlander myself as my GV will also become NGT impacted in 2022

NGT ruling shows a bit of lobby group pressure rather than seriousness to check pollution.

Why a car which meets the exhaust norms be scrapped just because of age. Why the same car can happily be driven all around metro towns. Does the wind not blow in and out of metros? Continuing further would be OTT.
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Re: A Tale of Outliers : Buying a used Mitsubishi Outlander & Maruti Grand Vitara

What an amazing writeup. Thanks for taking the time!

Right on point in each and every aspect.

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  • Dated interiors with hard plastic across
  • Simple instrument cluster with very basic trip meter (the 2.4L has an updated one)
  • CD changer without Aux or Bluetooth functionality (I know, we’re talking 2007 vintage)
  • Basic noise insulation, cabin gets loud at and after 3000 rpm (but engine note is super awesome).
Will just add couple of things. The NVH improved VERY significantly after I added sound deadening to all the doors on my GV. Especially the tailgate, it had an irritating rattle that went away after that. Although I'm usually not very bothered by this stuff, but hey, will take a quieter cabin anyday.

Also, a head unit upgrade to an android (or android auto/apple car play) one would also be a good idea if you're going to be spending a lot of time driving. I did that mostly for navigation so I didn't have to plug in a phone every time I wanted to use Google Maps - pretty happy with that.

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Lovely thread with crisp write up. Your car looked lovely when we had outing to Sohna hot springs last winters. Looking forward to camp out to test off road grunt. Tempted to look at Outlander myself as my GV will also become NGT impacted in 2022

NGT ruling shows a bit of lobby group pressure rather than seriousness to check pollution.

Why a car which meets the exhaust norms be scrapped just because of age. Why the same car can happily be driven all around metro towns. Does the wind not blow in and out of metros? Continuing further would be OTT.
Thanks Sudev. You have been really inspirational in helping me with the GV and the Outlander.

Super thankful for the offroad trip to Rajasthan with the GV in 2018. Truly an eye-opener in terms of capability! Looking forward to testing out the Outlander in the near future.

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What an amazing writeup. Thanks for taking the time!

Right on point in each and every aspect.



Will just add couple of things. The NVH improved VERY significantly after I added sound deadening to all the doors on my GV. Especially the tailgate, it had an irritating rattle that went away after that. Although I'm usually not very bothered by this stuff, but hey, will take a quieter cabin anyday.

Also, a head unit upgrade to an android (or android auto/apple car play) one would also be a good idea if you're going to be spending a lot of time driving. I did that mostly for navigation so I didn't have to plug in a phone every time I wanted to use Google Maps - pretty happy with that.
Thanks Tanmay. Yup, have been privy to your add-ins and if I had not gotten the Outlander, the next agenda was damping the GV.

Added a Sony HU with Apple Car play at around Rs. 9K last year. That coupled with the reverse camera in the number plate has really helped increase the fun quotient. The beauty of the Sony HU was that it matched the red ambient lighting of the GV at night.

Your exploits with the GV are something to emulate!
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Re: A Tale of Outliers : Buying a used Mitsubishi Outlander & Maruti Grand Vitara

Many Congratulations, the outlander is a wonderful crossover. It drives like a proper car, in fact, the chassis is incredible, the engine is very refined and it is very comfortable in D mode and Sporty in manual. The AWD comes in very handy on mountains or when you need to push the car. I bought a 2012 Outlander in 2017, under 5 year old with 42k kms on the clock. Have munched nearly 44k more with OD at 86k in over three years. I have only spent on AC evaporator coil (a few months after purchase) in the last three year plus regular service. While I prefer to not to buy cars more than 50k kms and 3 year (in case of germans) and 5 years (in case of Japanese), its good to see that you could find a 10 year old example in good condition.

In btw: how did you manage to put a Sony headunit with apple car play at 9k? could you please detail.

I have researched extensively and the interface for Outlander with Rockford Fosgate - Metra Axxess AXTO-MI2 and Spiral Audio IX-MI002-IT costs over 20k including duty and postage. Plus the Head set (fascia) costs about 3-4k and Sony 5290 at 18.5K. Thats nearly 45k including rear camera.

In fact, I was contemplating on getting a 9 inch Android unit from Hypersonic. I have been quoted 18.5k including a unit that makes the head unit apple car play and android auto compatible.

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Many Congratulations, the outlander is a wonderful crossover. It drives like a proper car, in fact, the chassis is incredible, the engine is very refined and it is very comfortable in D mode and Sporty in manual. The AWD comes in very handy on mountains or when you need to push the car. I bought a 2012 Outlander in 2017, under 5 year old with 42k kms on the clock. Have munched nearly 44k more with OD at 86k in over three years. I have only spent on AC evaporator coil (a few months after purchase) in the last three year plus regular service. While I prefer to not to buy cars more than 50k kms and 3 year (in case of germans) and 5 years (in case of Japanese), its good to see that you could find a 10 year old example in good condition.
Thanks Gaurav and good to see another Outlander owner on the forum. Where do you get your car serviced in NCR?

For the HU, had gotten Sony Ax1000 series Rs. 11K worth from Amazon with 3K cashback deal. Frame + coupler + install cost around 2K. So total 10K (not 9K) for Apple car play (wired) installed in the GV.

For the Outlander, the hazard lights switch row does not allow for a clean frame install. Still searching for options.

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Thanks Gaurav and good to see another Outlander owner on the forum. Where do you get your car serviced in NCR?



For the HU, had gotten Sony Ax1000 series Rs. 11K worth from Amazon with 3K cashback deal. Frame + coupler + install cost around 2K. So total 10K (not 9K) for Apple car play (wired) installed in the GV.



For the Outlander, the hazard lights switch row does not allow for a clean frame install. Still searching for options.

Ohh. My bad, I thought you got it for Outlander.

The hazard light switch is not a problem, the wiring is.

The new dash kit (fascia) will take care of it.

Check out the following links.

Dash kit - Fascia

A Tale of Outliers : Buying a used Mitsubishi Outlander & Maruti Grand Vitara-imageuploadedbyteambhp1599564180.551847.jpg

The pioneer head unit

A Tale of Outliers : Buying a used Mitsubishi Outlander & Maruti Grand Vitara-imageuploadedbyteambhp1599564717.008618.jpg



Wiring interface
http://www.metraonline.com/part/AXTO-MI2#gallery


https://www.spiralaudio.com/index.ph...d=1770&search=

Steering wheel control if the one that comes with pioneer does not work. But I think it should.

https://www.carid.com/pac-audio/non-...mpn-swirc.html


And lastly the hypersonic unit I got quote of

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About the service, I used to get it done from Asian Motors till last year. I used their services for good 10 years from 2009 till 2019, first for my Cedia and now outlander.

Last year, I did go to excel for a small body shop work. Their services were pretty good. I have a Trustworthy mechanic in CP, but an ex Asian employee/supervisor - Sanjay- is now opening his own workshop. Should be open in October. I shall be using his services considering he gave the best suitable advice to me over 10 years, without expecting a single penny in return. Excellent guy. I can share his number if you wish. Will share it in directory as well soon.

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Excellent guy. I can share his number if you wish. Will share it in directory as well soon.

Great if you can share the number. Currently I go to Gurgaon for my servicing. I have also gotten some work at Excel, which seems good. But most of their parts are very expensive compared to aftermarket ones.

The audio options look enticing. Will delve deeper into options. Not a big fan of Android units, but with evolving market, definitely cannot ignore them.

Is there an Outlander owners WhatsApp group? I have joined the Outlander FB group.

Thanks for the inputs!
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Great if you can share the number. Currently I go to Gurgaon for my servicing. I have also gotten some work at Excel, which seems good. But most of their parts are very expensive compared to aftermarket ones.
Sanjay Number:- 8447471166

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The audio options look enticing. Will delve deeper into options. Not a big fan of Android units, but with evolving market, definitely cannot ignore them.
Certainly, not a fan either but then spending 40K and getting a unit that costs 18.5k seems a bit steep to me. Plus if the steering mounted controls with pioneer doesnt work, I will have to shell another 6-7k including postage and duty for the PAC unit. So, sitting back for the time.

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No, not a part of any group on FB or on Whatsapp. Do, PM me the FB link if you find it fruitful.
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Certainly, not a fan either but then spending 40K and getting a unit that costs 18.5k seems a bit steep to me.
Thanks for the number.

I have currently installed a Tantra Fluke connected to the Aux in the hand-rest/centre console which gives bluetooth connectivity and have mounted a CD slot based mobile holder for navigation. Seems to get the job done as of now.

Will PM you the FB link.

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Thanks for the number.

I have currently installed a Tantra Fluke connected to the Aux in the hand-rest/centre console which gives bluetooth connectivity and have mounted a CD slot based mobile holder for navigation. Seems to get the job done as of now.
Yeah, thats the trouble, Mitsubishi skipped the aux jack from my car in 2012, the wiring comes till center console but the end unit isn't there. The OE unit costs 4200 plus postage and duty if any. There were videos on Youtube to connect the aux cable directly to the wire, I tried it but the aux didn't work. I will have to swap the unit from my cousin's outlander to see if it works. If it does, I will order the unit and an aux to bluetooth device.

Good thing is I use an iphone and the output from apple music is excellent. The Rockford sounds even more crip using it. So, using a 2 meter apple wire with magnetic dash mounted phone holders. Works pretty good for me. Trouble is my brother, who uses OnePlus, finds it really annoying.

In fact, if I have to spend 45k on the pioneer, i'd rather buy an ipad mini with gps. My old 2013 mini without gps is a waste.
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Good thing is I use an iphone and the output from apple music is excellent.

So true. I see much better quality tracks on Apple Music than my wife's android solutions. Although Spotify has a good collection.

So USB is working for you and it reads the iPhone as iPod device. That's also doable. In fact it will give better sound than the Bluetooth connect.

We should setup an Outlander meet to swap ideas.

Next time we have a GV meet, will let you know. Some like minded people. Would be great to see another Outlander in person.
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Super review of both cars I had on my wish list. Unfortunately for me an auto was really important. Like you I don't go seriously off road but I do go to places with lot of slush and inclines and apparently, a CVT auto is a strict no-no for these. Even with AWD. I have seen horror stories of Rav4s and CRVs trying mild off road with their CVT boxes. The only people who seem to have cracked offroading with CVT are Subaru. Such a shame they don't sell them in India. Have you had any experience with your Outlander off the beaten track?
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Have you had any experience with your Outlander off the beaten track?
Thanks Amsdoc!

I haven't taken if off the beaten track and hence that is something I will try in the coming months.

I have seen the Outlander internationally do well in snow & mud without concerns. However, for serious off-roading, it does not have the approach, departure and break-over angles & articulation in my opinion.
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