Hi All,
I just upgraded from my 2015 i20 Elite Asta 1.2 petrol to Creta 1.6 SX AT petrol a month ago. The main reasons for the sooner than expected upgrade are:
1. Requirement of a petrol automatic car
2. Tall seating position and easy ingress/egress for myself (due to recurrent back pain) and parents
3. Larger boot space for carrying items of my grown-up family
Rather than creating a separate thread for ownership report (it's anyway too soon for that), I would like to just concisely jot down my initial impressions here itself.
My budget was up to 15L, but the lesser the better as always. I have already made up my mind for owning a crossover/compact SUV and before finalizing, I tried the following options, although MSIL and Hyundai are my first choices due to service center availability:
1. Duster, Terrano, Lodgy, Captur and Kicks: All fitted my requirements, especially Duster and Terrano due to the humongous 475 liters boot. I also prefer the decently equipped Captur too. But due to dwindling sales and possible unpredictable future (a la Chevrolet India), I abandoned the choices.
2. Creta: Great looks, fit and finish, features for creature comfort and several goodies, fuss-free ownership; but too pricey along with missing features at that price and boot is considerably smaller than competition.
3. Ertiga : My first choice. I loved the car due its practicality in a compact size and VFM pricing, in spite of the tinny build quality. ZXi AT at sub 10 lakh ex-showroom would have been a steal for me in spite of a few missing features from my existing i20. I visited the showroom but that dismal waiting period of 20-22 weeks put me off. Otherwise, I would have been driving it by now.
4. BRV : Very much utility in the car. But seeing the recent cost cutting spree of Honda (e.g. missing boot lid plastic cladding in City), small 195 section tyres for an SUV/MUV, Mobilio like design with visibly low sitting position etc. put me off.
5. Wagon-R : Yes. I considered that too while checking the Ertiga. New WagonR with a very practically designed 340 litres boot space, tall seating position, easy ingress/egress – all fulfilled my needs, although missing many features from i20. But one particular member of the family (and you can easily guess who) disagreed outright – “Why downgrade from i20 to a lower segment?”
6. S-Cross: Best build Maruti ever in India, but no automatic and petrol options. And the boot space is sub-par in spite of the size of the car.
7. Brezza, Ecosports, Nexon, WRV, TUV300, XUV300 : Although suited to my needs, personally I did not like the side profiles looks of sub-4 meter SUVs due to length restriction.
8. 7-seaters: Bigger cars like Marazzo (new entrant), Scorpio (too old) etc excluded mostly due to size and me not being a fan of Mahindra. Hexa/Innova are beyond my budget and size requirements.
So, I finally decided on the Creta 1.6 SX AT although the pricing pinched a lot. And add to that not a single penny is given as discount. However, somehow with some insistence I managed to get floor mats and mud flaps as free and reduce the insurance amount by a couple of thousands and transferred the 35% NCB of my i20. Still the final insurance amount was 54,000 Rs. The car was delivered exactly after 1 month from the booking date, as promised.
The purchase experience was uneventful. However, the sales executive surely has done 2 dicey transactions here: one, he did not give me any receipt for RTO registration fees, and secondly, the notorious ‘handling charges’ of Rs. 3000 was taken from me. For that, he gave me a separate receipt in dealer’s own pad, but not in the main invoice. I even called Hyundai customer care immediately citing the court order regarding this (thanks to TeamBHP), but that guy also said handling charge is indeed taken by Hyundai and sales person is right in charging me the dues. What can I do after that, just threatened the customer care guy to be ready to face another court case and then cut the phone.
A few pictures of the car:
The front: Definitely looks bolder than the outgoing model. Striking LED DRLs stand out.
The rear: Finally they came - the older tail lamps were replaced with LEDs in the 2019 versions, something to show off after paying so many bucks. But personally, I think they are quick-fix ones in a tweaked old casing itself. The same in the new i20 has a much better eye-catching design.
Side view: Although one can distinguish it from a sub-4 meter SUV, it still looks much shorter than the actual length. I think it is due to the absence of rear quarter glass. Hope Hyundai provides it in the 2020 upgrade. There is no reason why it cannot be designed since Duster/SCross has it in spite of being just 3-5 cm longer than Creta and having similar or more bonnet length.
Top View: Here also, it looks shorter than actual.
Rear 3 quarter view : My preferred angle of view. Looks much bigger in this.
Boot space: I was eager to test it since my purchase decision was made and found that it is just adequate, but not great, 402 liters versus 285 liters in i20 (no written documentation found regarding Creta's boot space though).
Although the length of the boot from the bumper to the rear seat base is good, the boot floor itself is very shallow which reduces usable boot space, by a good 3-40 liters in my assumption. Even some hatchbacks 2 segments lower have a taller boot than this. I cannot even place my 80cm trolley bag vertically even after removing the parcel tray, as the slanting windshield area brushes against it. Surprisingly, it is possible in my Elite i20, thanks to a tall car area, in spite of it being a much low slung car. Even new Hyundai Venue has a fairly deep boot floor, in spite of having similar GC as Creta, same tyre width and similarly placed 215 mm section spare wheel under boot.
Many people support the highly placed boot floor to be aligned with the edge of the boot lid, for ease of Unloading luggage by simply dragging them. But what I simply don't understand is that - a person who can lift a bag while loading luggage into the boot, why he cannot lift the same back from just 1/3rd of that height. I saw the same shallow floor set-up in Jeep Compass also. But for me, all it does is eats away god amount of usable the boot space, which is already way behind in Creta than the competition, i.e., around 475 ltrs. Luckily the trolley bag fits perfectly when placed horizontally, as shown in the picture. For a comparison, have a look at the boot of i20 (left) and Venue (right). Notice how low the boot floor sits liberating lots of space vertically.
Coming to the initial driving experience, after a 245 km round trip to and from my workplace to home, following are my initial impressions:
1. Vibration is next to nil while idling. This is same in both i20 and Creta.
2. Ride quality is similar to i20’s, but definitely not while cornering. It is understandable considering the height of the car.
3. Increase in engine performance after driving the i20 1.2 petrol, does not seem to be prominent. I tried manual mode a few times with acceleration at 3rd gear on open road. But more than pick-up, all I saw increasing are the RPMs and engine sound. At some point after 3000 RPMs, the sound gets so boomy that I had to remove my foot from A pedal. It does not feel like a 1600cc engine, but rather a 1400 cc one.
I request the experts/owners to let me know, whether you also have similar experience.
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Mileage calculated in ‘tank full to tank full’ method is 13.04 kmpl (245 kms in 18.78 litres), respectable figure at the very first month I believe, anyone tend to disagree? Out of this, around 80% was in highway in D mode with speed hovering between 50-80 kms/hr (with 6th gear engaging only at 70% of this time as I could not maintain optimum speed due to highway and traffic conditions). Rest is in town and village interior lane driving with mostly 2nd and 3rd gear, at 50-50 ratio. First servicing is due after 2 week. Let’s see if mileage improves or not.
3. Considerably bad noise insulation in Creta while on the move. I could barely mind the i20's engine at 2500 rpm, but in Creta, it is very prominent. When RPM closes to 3000 revs, the sound gets annoyingly loud and I feel like removing my foot from A pedal. Never felt like the same in i20 petrol.
4. Tyre noise is also noticeable. While going over the roadside reflectors, I can hear the BONG BONG BONG sound inside Creta, while in the i20, the same sound was very much damped and disguised. Could not guess whether it is due to different tyre (Bridgestone Dueler in Creta vs Alnac 4G in i20) with different profile or just because of bad insulation.
5. Up-shifting happens just before 2000 mark, but engine sound just before shifting is very noticeable upto 4th gear. However, upshifting from 5th to 6th is extremely smooth.
6. One very mild CLUCK noise comes from the front suspension since day-1, while going over bumps/speed breakers.
Now coming to the much debated price worthiness of Creta. Most people, including myself, agree that the car is overpriced by at least a lakh. So, I wanted to have a rough comparison with my 2015 i20. This is surely not a fair comparison by any logic, but considering only the fact that i20 is more or less rightly priced in its segment, I wanted to calculate the approximate differentials with Creta, with respect to price and features - only to analyze what I got, what I missed and whether the price difference is worth or not. There are definitely 100s of more aspects to consider in the calculation, but I just concentrated on the most visible ones, from a layman’s point of view. Hope you will excuse me for this madness of sorts.
The ex-showroom price of my i20 was 7.05 lakh back in 2015. The same i20 would have been priced at around, say 8.10 lakh after 4 years, as per Hyundai’s norms. So, Creta at 13.87 lakhs, roughly I paid around 5.77 lakh more. And the following came out of my basic comparison:
What I got (additional features/material/item wise):
1. A tall and slightly bigger car, yes slightly, just 27.5 cm longer than i20. And the width increase is negligible when you consider the interior cabin space, which is almost same as i20.
2. Bigger and slightly powerful engine. Yes again, only slightly. I don't see any noticeable performance gain between the 1.2 and 1.6 petrol engine, in spite of that higher power and torque specs (may be because of vehicle weight.
3. IsoFix child seat anchor
4. Automatic transmission
5. Shark-fin antenna
6. Touch Screen with GPS navigation
7. LED DRL, and very good looking ones
8. Cornering lamp
9. Projector headlights. But to me illumination does not seem to improve considerably over my i20's standard lights.
10. Bigger wheels/tyres. Look wise I still love the simple yet sexy alloys of i20.
11. Dual reversing lamps (I am still pulling my hair out thinking how much pennies were saved by Hyundai by giving single reversing lamp in i20)
12. High GC at 190mm with suspension tuned for that (again no written documentation on it)
13. Cruise control
14. 3yrs unlimited km warranty vs 2yrs limited warranty of i20 (then)
15. Sunroof
16. Roof Rails
What remained same as in my 2015 Elite i20 Asta:
Same sounding music system
Same interior cabin space as i20 if you consider the width, headroom is quite goo though
Same fit and finish of interior
Similar build quality/material, as it looks to me
Same Dual airbags
Similar sized glove box
What I missed from i20:
1. Cooled glove box
2. Electro-chromic IRVM
3. Automatic headlights
4. Auto folding ORVM
5. Rear fog lamps
6. Cluster Ionizer (still not sure whether it actually worked or not ever in my i20 in my 3.5 years and 59k kms of driving)
7. Reversing camera quality. In spite of small display on the IRVM, i20's picture quality is very clear, compared to Creta. At night the display quality is just next to unusable.
8. 1 ltr bottle holder on door. It is present on first look, but some designs like the Milton 975ml thermo flaks are very tight fit and presses against the door pad. A slight crease on the door aligning to the bottle's top would have made it a breeze. 2 images for visualization:
i20 Doorpad
Creta doorpad
So, after summarizing (based on just my pricing
assumption only), it seems, I have lost features worth of around 30-45 thousands and got around 4.85 lakh worth more in terms of incremental financial value, a gain of around 4.35-4.5L in financial terms, but by paying 5.77 lakh extra over the Elite i20, as detailed follows:
Bigger size (material, govt duty etc.) : 100K
Bigger Engine (including govt duty): 100k (or may be more?)
Auto Transmission : 200K
Sunroof : 40K
Touchscreen/GPS : 10k
Bigger Wheels : 10k
LEDs : 5K
Cruise Control : 10K
Miscellaneous : 10k approx
So, as most BHPians agree that the car is overpriced by at least a lakh, the same came out to be true in my rough calculation also,
seemingly paying at least 1.2 lakhs more than the deserving price. This becomes much more pronounced when one compares the features in Verna. But since each car has its own USP and downsides as well, we customers cannot do anything about it, other than being happy to own a car of one’s choice and when the car serves you faithfully without trouble. Hope it will be true for my new stead too.
Overall I am happy with my purchase, but would have been the happiest had Hyundai reduced the price, even by just 50k also.