[abhi7013]

Originally Posted by roby_dk

Congratulations abhi for your car.

Hexa definitely seems to be a game changer for Tata with appealing features.
Will be soon finalizing between Hexa XTA or Endeavour Trend 2.2 AT. I am following threads of both of these cars from long time but still confused.

Thank you!

By the way, if you have all the features you are looking for in the trend 2.2, and if you have the moolah, then just go for it!
But if you want to save cash (and save big time) and you are not brand conscious, you can go for the Hexa.
As i said, the product surpasses the brand image that the public has!
Why not take multiple back-to-back TDs of both cars with friends and family? It may help bring clarity.

[roby_dk]

Originally Posted by abhi7013

By the way, if you have all the features you are looking for in the trend 2.2, and if you have the moolah, then just go for it!

No this is not true it is a mix and match of features which is creating the confusion.
Like electric seat adjustment, bigger infotainment screen, powered tailgate and proper SUV looks in Endy vs better AT, 19" wheels, ambient cabin lights, better audio setup, optional sunroof and better 3rd row in Hexa.

Originally Posted by abhi7013

But if you want to save cash (and save big time) and you are not brand conscious, you can go for the Hexa.

Do not have any problem with Tata vs Ford I already own a Safari and had a good experience with Tata. I am just looking for a better car with AT.

Originally Posted by abhi7013

As i said, the product surpasses the brand image that the public has!
Why not take multiple back-to-back TDs of both cars with friends and family? It may help bring clarity.

Correct back to back test drive will surely reveal if moving from Hexa to Endy is worth. I am also waiting if Tata rolls out some missing features in Hexa but not sure if it will coming soon.

[abhi7013]

Originally Posted by roby_dk

Do not have any problem with Tata vs Ford I already own a Safari and had a good experience with Tata. I am just looking for a better car with AT.

If its the AT, then am sure Hexa will give the endy a run for its money! You could easily add the "drivability" part in the Hexa's favour. But again, endeavour is a whole segment above! Keep us updated on how the TDs go!

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by abhi7013

But again, endeavour is a whole segment above!

If I liked the Hexa's looks and didn't need 4WD, I'd go for the XMA with my eyes closed over the Endy.

I'd save money, get a more comfortable vehicle with a great AMC and would be able to seat more people, in comfort.

To me, a segment upgrade should also be a product/feature/USP upgrade, not just a badge and price upgrade.

Of course, to each, his/her own...!!

[abhi7013]

Originally Posted by n.devdath

If I liked the Hexa's looks and didn't need 4WD, I'd go for the XMA with my eyes closed over the Endy.

I'd save money, get a more comfortable vehicle with a great AMC and would be able to seat more people, in comfort.

To me, a segment upgrade should also be a product/feature/USP upgrade, not just a badge and price upgrade.

Of course, to each, his/her own...!!

Yes very important words there! Paying in excess of 8L just for the badge and a bit of looks doesn't make much sense (that too for the base version).
Again, as you said, to each his own. There maybe people who value the raw looks over the VFM factor!
For you and me however, money matters!

[imidnightmare]

Abhi, congratulations on the car and big ups for a great review. I have the XTA and had been mulling over a review post, but saw you were working on it (read on the other thread) and realized that was pointless.

As for anyone that asks, my experience so far has been great. I've had no niggles with the car itself. There was a minor niggle which was found to be with the sidestep and that was fixed within 5 hours (from reporting time to the time the car was returned to me with issue fixed).

For the record, have done a mix of city (Mumbai) and highway driving (Pune, Gujarat etc.) which have all been a great experience.

Once again, congratulations on the new car and add me to the list of people you know of that are extremely satisfied and happy with the choice (at least so far).

[abhi7013]

Originally Posted by imidnightmare

Once again, congratulations on the new car and add me to the list of people you know of that are extremely satisfied and happy with the choice (at least so far).

Thanks a lot!
As for the car, yes it really is a magnificent one! And the way tata is reaching out to customers is good. Not just for the niggles. The rattling issue in mine was fixed in a day and the passenger seat cover replaced the same day when it was reported. From then till now there's nothing. Still, the dealer is in touch with me often. Such small gestures go a long way!

I have seen many people waiting for the Hexa to be in the market for atleast 6 months for the issues to be identified and sorted out. One of my friends said that reliability is a concern.
Here's my point: the aria is pretty old in the market, so any mechanical/structural issues would have been long addressed. And since Hexa is based on Aria, i guess TATA are more confident.
Coming to the engine, again, tried and tested on the Aria and Safari.
So if any issues have to arise in Hexa, it should be the electronics. And there's nothing reported in these two months by any owners AFAIK.

And that's why I recommend this car to people who ask me. Hope my argument is not wrong! Although minor QC issues were reported by a few owners. Hope TATA gets it right with every car as this is their flagship and they cannot afford to mess it up.

Finally, congratulations to you too on your XTA! The AT is really amazing.. Many happy miles with it!

[imidnightmare]

Originally Posted by abhi7013

Thanks a lot!
As for the car, yes it really is a magnificent one! And the way tata is reaching out to customers is good. Not just for the niggles. The rattling issue in mine was fixed in a day and the passenger seat cover replaced the same day when it was reported. From then till now there's nothing. Still, the dealer is in touch with me often. Such small gestures go a long way!

True that. They've followed-up remarkably well and the service has been not just prompt, but surprisingly helpful. I bought it from Concorde Motors, Prabhadevi, but live in Powai and Concorde has another (smaller) branch here. When I faced an issue (squeaking at weird times, but completely untraceable for me), the nearby branch sent an executive to pick it up within an hour. In 3 hours flat, the car was back.

The issue was that the sidestep on one side was not fastened well enough and that caused it to occasionally move over a bump and hit the flap ever so slightly. It was only audible with AC off and occurred only at low speeds. Having endured a similar squeaking for 4 months (3 service visits) with Honda in the past (traced ultimately to a damned seat belt!), I was happy at the diligence and the candour of the executives.

Originally Posted by abhi7013

I have seen many people waiting for the Hexa to be in the market for atleast 6 months for the issues to be identified and sorted out. One of my friends said that reliability is a concern.
Here's my point: the aria is pretty old in the market, so any mechanical/structural issues would have been long addressed. And since Hexa is based on Aria, i guess TATA are more confident.
Coming to the engine, again, tried and tested on the Aria and Safari.
So if any issues have to arise in Hexa, it should be the electronics. And there's nothing reported in these two months by any owners AFAIK.

And that's why I recommend this car to people who ask me. Hope my argument is not wrong! Although minor QC issues were reported by a few owners. Hope TATA gets it right with every car as this is their flagship and they cannot afford to mess it up.

This was one of the major reasons for my not waiting either. So far, so good. As for "long-term reliability", I took a longer view. Apart from the whole Aria base, Tata aren't exactly new to the SUV segment in particular. From the Sierra through to the Hexa, they've produced many and learned a lot. I also learned a lot from people inside and who've worked closely with TML. As a company, they've learned a lot in the last 4-5 years (some very chastening experiences as they admitted) and really focused massive effort on this vehicle. They needed to get it right. Initial indications are they probably have. Let's see how this stands the test of time (4+ years)...

Originally Posted by abhi7013

Finally, congratulations to you too on your XTA! The AT is really amazing.. Many happy miles with it!

Thanks. And yes, the AT is quite something. Misses out on ESP, but damn, long drives as well as city drives are exceptional. Also pulls like a champ from the start. Makes it easy to overtake and make sharp maneuvers - something I was afraid I'd not have the ability to do in a vehicle of its bulk.

Cheers! And many happy (thousands of) miles to you as well.

[apachelongbow]

As a new XTA owner, I hope it is ok for me to add my two cents on your thread. I finished a near 2000km trip a day back. We did hyd, BLR, Coorg and same way back in 4 days. A mix of great highways, two lanes roads and rutted coffee estate tracks. Overall a good mix of conditions to test out the car. In a single word, it is amazing. The car is super smooth, silent, a big head turner at almost all places we parked, very comfortable and it gave a fantastic economy of about 13.9/14.2 Kmpl (at 100kmph cc on and AC on). Coming from the Storme, it shows how much Tata have improved on all aspects, from engine refinement, fit and finish, styling, comfort, almost everything. Only area where I felt my Storme shines over my Hexa is on extremely bad roads (coffee estate dirt tracks). On these roads the difference between a suv and a cross over is apparent.

[vigneshkumar31]

Originally Posted by apachelongbow

As a new XTA owner, I hope it is ok for me to add my two cents on your thread. I finished a near 2000km trip a day back. We did hyd, BLR, Coorg and same way back in 4 days. A mix of great highways, two lanes roads and rutted coffee estate tracks. Overall a good mix of conditions to test out the car. In a single word, it is amazing. The car is super smooth, silent, a big head turner at almost all places we parked, very comfortable and it gave a fantastic economy of about 13.9/14.2 Kmpl (at 100kmph cc on and AC on). Coming from the Storme, it shows how much Tata have improved on all aspects, from engine refinement, fit and finish, styling, comfort, almost everything. Only area where I felt my Storme shines over my Hexa is on extremely bad roads (coffee estate dirt tracks). On these roads the difference between a suv and a cross over is apparent.

Sorry abhi for hijacking this thread!

Thanks Apache for your points.Please share your views on the following
Yours would be an ideal perspective for me considering the shift from Storme:
1. My choice also would be the AT. But I'm not too happy skimping on the ESP+Hill Descent, Traction Control and Hydraulic Brake Assist. Given the merit of that beautiful AT box, I would love to choose the XTA. But Im just wondering for the same price the XT4x4 ticks all the safety boxes and throws in the AWD as well. Could you please share your choice and thought process over the variants, which might help others, like myself.
2. This one's on the silly side of things: The Storme is an amazing SUV and there's no reason for me to upgrade :P . The hexa pulls me for its complete safety kit (compared to my EX which lacks airbags.)better features, superior interiors and composed ride quality and the wonderful AT box. After moving from your storme, has the Hexa been worth the shift?
3. Curious, what did you do with the Storme: Trade, Sell or Keep it. I know I would retain my Storme if I could afford it!

[apachelongbow]

Originally Posted by vigneshkumar31

Sorry abhi for hijacking this thread!

Thanks Apache for your points.Please share your views on the following
Yours would be an ideal perspective for me considering the shift from Storme:
1. My choice also would be the AT. But I'm not too happy skimping on the ESP+Hill Descent, Traction Control and Hydraulic Brake Assist. Given the merit of that beautiful AT box, I would love to choose the XTA. But Im just wondering for the same price the XT4x4 ticks all the safety boxes and throws in the AWD as well. Could you please share your choice and thought process over the variants, which might help others, like myself.
2. This one's on the silly side of things: The Storme is an amazing SUV and there's no reason for me to upgrade :P . The hexa pulls me for its complete safety kit (compared to my EX which lacks airbags.)better features, superior interiors and composed ride quality and the wonderful AT box. After moving from your storme, has the Hexa been worth the shift?
3. Curious, what did you do with the Storme: Trade, Sell or Keep it. I know I would retain my Storme if I could afford it!

Xt 4×4 sounds ideal for you, if you donot want that excellent auto that is. I am keeping my Storme, hence Xta was a no brainer choice for me. I recollect reading somewhere which mentioned that a couple of feature missing in xta like hill hold/esp were actually a function of the autobox, but I am not sure. However your 4×4 activity will be limited to mild offroading only unlike the Storme, a function of the long length of the hexa. Normal touring i would highly recommrnd the xta.

The xt 4×4 loses the automatic but gains additional drive modes, 4×4 and the esp program. The lower version of the automatic loses many goodies like 10 speaker/woofer system, mood lighting, auto climate control and the likes. For me the additional luxury features of the xta seemed attractive. Believe me auto coupled with cruise control on a highway is sublime. Increasing speed is a finger control away..highly recommended.

[vigneshkumar31]

Thanks ! XTA is indeed loaded to the brim.And is THE choice to go for.

I believe hill hold is built in (obviously) and is mentioned in the brochure.
But ESP,HBA,Traction Control I doubt if they can or are built into the Auto as then it would have been marketed as -built in- in the brochure.

I may be wrong here, but The 4 driving modes of the manual seem to work on toying with the ESP and traction controls, so the auto will need ESP if it has to be made 4x4 (rough road mode). It would be interesting to see if the XTA 4x4 is launched, if it comes with the dial for driving modes or how would it incorporate the 4x4.

Anyway, the silly and shocking 10 year diesel ban has made the resale value of most diesel cars laughable in NCR and I'm sure my Storme will be no exception. Hope SC clears this ban issue and saves DL number plates from resale catastrophe.
As on today, I will need exceptional courage or loads of luck to buy a XTA and register it in Delhi.

[abhi7013]

Had been to Nanjangud which is near Mysore. Car performed beyond expectation! Could not calculate the mileage though. And here's a reason why am going for cameras, both front and rear:-
On our way back, a drunk guy on a pulsar started yelling asking me to stop and shouting regarding the way i was driving. I was not at all speeding and there was no chance to do so as we were in Ramanagar city traffic.
He was so involved in looking at me and shouting that he swerved right, hit the divider and crashed. Was with my parents and granny, so i never thought of stopping and just drove along.
He comes again after a few minutes and asks me to pull over. Before i know it, he comes in front of the car and starts slowing down. I stop, so does he, and i change lanes and quickly overtake him.
Within moments he's back again and the same thing follows. Only this time, we are in the right most lane of the Bangalore-Mysore highway and my car is covering both the lanes. When he gets down, i try bringing the car to the left lane. Now he starts hitting hard on the window and my mom naturally starts to panic. Looking at them, i panic too and just drive off at full throttle. I find an empty parking space and park there and quickly switch off the lights. Within moments, a car pulls up and few bikers follow them.
We explain to them what happened and they said they saw the whole thing. These good folks stay with us for half an hour and offer to drive along side till the NICE road entry, incase the guy showed up again.

Now since i was with family i did not want to stop. And the guy was in no mood for simple talks even if i did stop. He wanted violence and that made me drive the car pretty fast and not stop. If i had a camera, the first thing i would have done was report the incident to the police along with the video.
Now the family is fine and so is the car (which i did not care to check before ensuring they were ok).

This incident makes me urge fellow members to have safety features such as a dash-cam. Would also advice readers to avoid the Bangalore Mysore highway during night as i came to learn of similar incidents from others.

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by abhi7013

Now since i was with family i did not want to stop. And the guy was in no mood for simple talks even if i did stop. He wanted violence and that made me drive the car pretty fast and not stop. If i had a camera, the first thing i would have done was report the incident to the police along with the video.

You did the right thing there. No point stopping and getting into an altercation with a drunkard with your family in tow for no fault of yours.

However, what one can also do is call the police or locate the nearest police picket and drive there. The on duty constables generally know such petty criminals and nuisance elements and they take of them very nicely.

Nevertheless, it is sad to know that BLR-MYS road has stooped to such levels. Mandya used to be a rough and ready town but it looks like the entire stretch has become nasty now.

[abhi7013]

Originally Posted by n.devdath

Nevertheless, it is sad to know that BLR-MYS road has stooped to such levels. Mandya used to be a rough and ready town but it looks like the entire stretch has become nasty now.

Well, family feels its safe to avoid that stretch during dark and i agree. But when am with friends, am more comfortable!
Also, while driving off from the place, i drove pretty rough. There was no traffic, just two cars on either lanes. Swerving between them and joining the parking space quickly was very very easy. Thought of highlighting this point cause now, looking back at that moment, it did not feel like a 2-ton behemoth.



Coming to updates, i have booked the viofo A119 dashcam after seeking advice from fellow owners. Here's the link:-

https://m.aliexpress.com/s/item/3270....html#autostay