Quote:
Originally Posted by speedsatya So my second set of brake pads replaced after just 13 K kms of usage ! At 31 K kms , I have changed 2 sets of brake pads , 2 sets of airfilters , RHS rear shock absorber , driver seat rail ( this broke off while driving ) . I am also starting to hear fan belt noise at times in 3rd gear . Dunno what else to expect . The vibrating CRVM just cannot be rectified .
I wonder if any amaze owner will ever buy another Honda car after this experience ! |
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedsatya I will find out on the manufacturer for sure . But my brake pads had started making the grinding sound on braking . This was a clear indication of worn out pads or something stuck in between .
On airfilters , I heard a new story this time . It seems , Honda doesnt recommend blowing air into the filter . Its just a tap on the wall like this ![Frustration](https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/images/smilies/Frustration.gif) and install it back . I could see a noticable difference in FE over time and this gone back to previous 20+ kpl figures just by changing the filter . |
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedsatya This is what Honda replies to my email asking them on brake pads wearing out at 10-13K km intervals !
On 02-Dec-2014, at 4:15 pm, Customer Relations <customer_relations@hondacarindia.com> wrote:
Dear Sir,
We are in receipt of your below communication to us.
With regard to your below mentioned concern, we would like to inform that brake pads are wear & tear items and their usage can not be termed in terms of km. However, we would like to thank you for sharing your valuable feedback with us which will be shared with our concerned deptt. for their reference.
Please let us know in case of any other assistance and assure you of our best services always.
Regards,
Customer Relationship Management
Honda Cars India Ltd., Greater Noida |
Quote:
Originally Posted by hserus Hardly six month old car and I face grease / lube related issues on the door handles and windows. Rear left passenger door is very stiff to open (grease seems to have dried up under it), and one of my windows makes a squeaking noise when it is raised up or down. Sigh - niggles like this manifesting themselves in a near new Honda. |
Just couldnt take it anymore ! Honda once again replies saying there is nothing wrong with their brake pads and that this was a wear n tear issue !
Sold the car for 6.3L INR after 20 months of usage( more on this later) . If only Honda had invested some more time to iron out the niggles before using Indian customers as guinea pigs to test their car . The Honda brand had so much of goodwill because of the City and thats how most of us went and booked a diesel without even a proper TD. Now , I dont think I will ever buy a Honda car again in India nor would I recommend this brand to anyone here .
Listing down some of the issues I encountered repeatedly
1- Vibrating A pillars. This was seen right from day one. Dakshin Honda in Bangalore failed to resolve this inspite of me going to them at least 3 times. Finally Penninsular Honda in Mangalore solved this , but inserting rubber inserts in between. This is an issue seen in almost all cars
2- gaps in the airbag panel. Honda says nothing can be done about this ! Even Brios have the same gaps
3- vibrating centre RVM. My car has this issue since day one and even now it vibrates slightly at cruising speeds of 80-100 kph in top gear. Even Penninsular Honda cannot do much about this
4- broken seat rail. The driver seat in my car had a broken seat rail. This resulted in a shaking seat whenever on turns or on bad roads / braking. Took time for the part to arrive, changed at 18000 kms ! Dealer says this has been noticed in their TD car as well.
5- brake pads wearing out as early as 8K kms. Honda was replacing this free for cars coming for brake replacements before 15 K kms. Mine was replaced at 18K kms and I was charged for this
6- Brake discs needed skimming at 18 K kms. New pads resulted in vibrating brake pedal. Dealer says the pads need skimming!!! Second set of pads replaced at 31K kms
7- Rear suspension leaking at 13 K kms. Replaced under warranty. Now again at 27 K kms I see a difference in handling on fast turns. I have a doubt on the rear suspension again
8- Service intervals are every 10 K kms. I see a noticeable drop in FE which keeps dropping towards the end of this 10 K interval. For ex. Highway drives with limits of 3000 rpm have always been around 23-25 kpl. But this goes down to as low as 18 kpl under similar conditions at the end of this 10 K kms interval
9- pathetic headlights. I will be changing to Osram Night Breaker Unlimited 55/60 W soon.
10- Some component of the air intake ( not sure what it's called ) replaced under warranty within a few months of buying ( don't remember when ) guess this was a precautionary measure to prevent hydrolocking
11- backlit LED in the switches for the rear defogger has already conked off twice. It was replaced under warranty on the first occasion , but I was charged 1800 INR the next time.
12- Grrrr sound from the AC blower at speeds above 2. This is because of some paper or other foreign particles entering the AC mechanism through the glovebox !!!
13- The rear had developed a new creaking sound as if something was on the verge of breaking apart . The dealer once again says this is seen on many other Amaze as well
14- Seating position : Somehow something wasnt right about those seats . My backpain deteriorated so much that I was advised to stop driving at all . Those seats were just not comfortable at all !
15- Headlights : Pathetic non existent headlights ! So many times I was pushing the lever assuming it was on low beam !
The only good thing about this car was the FE . Again , the FE would go down after 6 K kms and it would be really down by close to 20-30% by the time you are in for the 10K service interval . Honda recommends a 20 K kms interval for air filter replacement . I realised , the FE would show a marginal improvement after the 10 K kms service , only to go really bad in another 5 K kms . Instead , changing the airfilter at the 10 K kms interval does help . I would recommend this to whoever plans to keep their cars for long . Airflilters cost just 4xx INR and you would recover this through the superb FE figures .
About the resale . None of the Honda dealers were willing to buy this car back . The max quote I got was for 5.5L INR !! The common answer I used to hear was " Sir , poor resale . Massive discounts now . New car readily available" .
After all they know their car so well .
Even with other used care dealers , I just struggled to find a good deal . And finally sold it off at 6.3L INR to True Value .