Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT

sgiitk · 18th May 2017, 09:43

Put my Brio through its annual service. No issues here. However, I did run into a very major issue with the aircon.

We were having somewhat poor cooling, so last December when the car was in for some other work, I put it through a Stage I service. obviously, could not check it out.

This year when the hot season started we found that the cooling was poor, and also near zero at low speeds. So I asked them to check out.

They claim that the compressor is shot and will have to be replaced and quoted me about 25k for it.

I put a hold on that so an going independent. Is the diagnosis correct?

What is the Compressor in the Brio (I guess Jazz etc share the same), what is the size and are there any alternatives. I am planning to go to an independent early next week.

condor · 18th May 2017, 10:28

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

This year when the hot season started we found that the cooling was poor, and also near zero at low speeds. So I asked them to check out.

I think you would have checked on these points, but Is the air flow as it should be ? How about a/c gas ?

sgiitk · 18th May 2017, 11:03

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Originally Posted by condor

I think you would have checked on these points, but Is the air flow as it should be ? How about a/c gas ?

Remember it went through a Stage 1 service in December, which includes an evacuate and refill. So the refrigerant should be Ok. Also, they checked again yesterday.

sgiitk · 20th May 2017, 15:20

Today I went to a local independent, who came highly recommended. He put a gauge to the high pressure side, and showed me that the compressor was near kaput. So HASS was correct. Seems Honda is using a Sanden Compressor with one connection (outlet) in the bottom. I am trying to get my friendly spares man to source it for me. The estimate for the fitment, evacuation, charging, etc is 2500, so add the cost of the compressor to it.

sgiitk · 25th July 2017, 14:52

Finally, the supplier of the Compressor in Delhi has it and the compressor is on its way. I have also been advised to get a new Expansion valve, and a condenser filter.

In the meanwhile yesterday in a mishap the rear screen of the car got broken. It seems that two rear screens are used in Brio. The one required (they traced it fast using the registration) was not available. They are getting it from the Factory and expect it tomorrow evening. (Pushp Honda) get their supplies every Wednesday, and have requisitioned it. . The service manager (Body Shop) tells me that replacement is a short job, about half an hour. So I expect the glass to be replaced on Thursday. The 'damages' may be only about 2,500 or so. By the looks of it the body is undamaged.

agambhandari · 25th July 2017, 15:19

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

Finally, the supplier of the Compressor in Delhi has it and the compressor is on its way. I have also been advised to get a new Expansion valve, and a condenser filter.

In the meanwhile yesterday in a mishap the rear screen of the car got broken. It seems that two rear screens are used in Brio. The one required (they traced it fast using the registration) was not available. They are getting it from the Factory and expect it tomorrow evening. (Pushp Honda) get their supplies every Wednesday, and have requisitioned it. . The service manager (Body Shop) tells me that replacement is a short job, about half an hour. So I expect the glass to be replaced on Thursday. The 'damages' may be only about 2,500 or so. By the looks of it the body is undamaged.

I understand that you are replacing the Rear windscreen of the car. In that case I would like to suggest you something, if you can source the Rear windscreen with the defogger, that would get you another useful feature in the car, given that it is commonly used in the winter months here in Northern India. The difference in the cost would be less than 1K I think, and the only thing that would need to be added is a new relay from the fuse box.

sgiitk · 26th July 2017, 10:14

@agambhandari; Good idea. Right now we are on the verge of going out for two months or so. So I need the glass replaced. In my ownership experience a defogger can be useful but is not necessary. Also, a rear defogger will require some additional wiring.

sgiitk · 27th July 2017, 16:38

Got the rear screen replaced. Total Damages 4209. The car was beck within two hours.

sgiitk · 31st October 2017, 15:31

Finally sorted out the car AC mess.

I got the AC Compressor (Sanden Vikas HFC134a, 97, STR06)) and the Condenser (PVL) through my friend Mr KK Jain of M/S Jain Motor Works. the pair cost me Rs.19,500.

Then I used M/S Golden Car AC for installing the same. Thanks to Miraj Bhai the job took a couple of house and cost me Rs.2,000. Now the A/C is back to its pristine condition. Total damages Rs.21,500.

sgiitk · 19th January 2018, 12:30

After a shade over five five years the Low Beam Filament on the Osram NB+ on the driver side beam packed up. As I was going out when the discovered it, I drove on High Beam almost all the time. This morning I replaced the bulb with an old one. The filament is yellow as compared to the Bluish colour of the NB+. Now I will try and buy a replacement pair, since five years plus is long enough for any upgraded bulb.

sgiitk · 24th January 2018, 15:50

I find there are both a NB Ultimate and NB Laser in the market. The latter is touted as the higher version of NB and the price difference is under Rs.400. What is intriguing is that the latter had no halogen fill, and uses pure Xenon. So I am tempted by it.

sgiitk · 15th May 2018, 16:20

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Put my Brio through its annual service. The damages were large Rs.15408.

In fact I am not sure about some of the costs. The front disc pas were changed even though there was quite a lot of stuff left. However the brakes are much better than before. Some of the other stuff looked a bit fishy but then it is a cross one has to bear. The entire team seems to have changed.

mxh · 15th May 2018, 16:43

How did you manage to spend so much on your service. Tried opening the images but the quality is too poor. I have a city 2015 and till date not spent more than 4500 for a service (light usage) so your post worries me..

sgiitk · 16th May 2018, 12:14

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Originally Posted by mxh

How did you manage to spend so much on your service. Tried opening the images but the quality is too poor. I have a city 2015 and till date not spent more than 4500 for a service (light usage) so your post worries me..

Agreed. The team is new to I did not bother for a detailed break up.

Somethings are suspicious to say the least. A pad change costs a bit. Also, filter and plugs. assuming we accept them even then other things are dodgy. Remember I had put a note - no additional work, as is my habit. Seems all the older lot has quit/left, and the new lot is dicey. Yes, the swing arms made a difference, as did some of the other work.

In fact they get upset since I send the car in only once a year.

Somethings are fishy, Auto pest control, Motor Care Treatment, Silencer Coating can again be snake oil.

Crankpin · 19th July 2018, 13:13

I am planning a 35k kms service on my Brio AT. I'm thinking of changing the plugs. Should I stick to the OEM plugs?
Also, I'm searching for 0W30 synthetic oil for the Brio but am getting 5W30 at most places.
Is it required to change the brake rotors with the pads as my Brio has done about 35k kms?

18th May 2017, 09:43	#106
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT Put my Brio through its annual service. No issues here. However, I did run into a very major issue with the aircon. We were having somewhat poor cooling, so last December when the car was in for some other work, I put it through a Stage I service. obviously, could not check it out. This year when the hot season started we found that the cooling was poor, and also near zero at low speeds. So I asked them to check out. They claim that the compressor is shot and will have to be replaced and quoted me about 25k for it. I put a hold on that so an going independent. Is the diagnosis correct? What is the Compressor in the Brio (I guess Jazz etc share the same), what is the size and are there any alternatives. I am planning to go to an independent early next week. Attached Thumbnails
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20th May 2017, 15:20	#109
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT Today I went to a local independent, who came highly recommended. He put a gauge to the high pressure side, and showed me that the compressor was near kaput. So HASS was correct. Seems Honda is using a Sanden Compressor with one connection (outlet) in the bottom. I am trying to get my friendly spares man to source it for me. The estimate for the fitment, evacuation, charging, etc is 2500, so add the cost of the compressor to it.
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25th July 2017, 14:52	#110
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT Finally, the supplier of the Compressor in Delhi has it and the compressor is on its way. I have also been advised to get a new Expansion valve, and a condenser filter. In the meanwhile yesterday in a mishap the rear screen of the car got broken. It seems that two rear screens are used in Brio. The one required (they traced it fast using the registration) was not available. They are getting it from the Factory and expect it tomorrow evening. (Pushp Honda) get their supplies every Wednesday, and have requisitioned it. . The service manager (Body Shop) tells me that replacement is a short job, about half an hour. So I expect the glass to be replaced on Thursday. The 'damages' may be only about 2,500 or so. By the looks of it the body is undamaged.
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26th July 2017, 10:14	#112
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT @agambhandari; Good idea. Right now we are on the verge of going out for two months or so. So I need the glass replaced. In my ownership experience a defogger can be useful but is not necessary. Also, a rear defogger will require some additional wiring.
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27th July 2017, 16:38	#113
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT Got the rear screen replaced. Total Damages 4209. The car was beck within two hours. Attached Thumbnails
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31st October 2017, 15:31	#114
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT Finally sorted out the car AC mess. I got the AC Compressor (Sanden Vikas HFC134a, 97, STR06)) and the Condenser (PVL) through my friend Mr KK Jain of M/S Jain Motor Works. the pair cost me Rs.19,500. Then I used M/S Golden Car AC for installing the same. Thanks to Miraj Bhai the job took a couple of house and cost me Rs.2,000. Now the A/C is back to its pristine condition. Total damages Rs.21,500.
	(2) Thanks

19th January 2018, 12:30	#115
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT After a shade over five five years the Low Beam Filament on the Osram NB+ on the driver side beam packed up. As I was going out when the discovered it, I drove on High Beam almost all the time. This morning I replaced the bulb with an old one. The filament is yellow as compared to the Bluish colour of the NB+. Now I will try and buy a replacement pair, since five years plus is long enough for any upgraded bulb.
	(1) Thanks

24th January 2018, 15:50	#116
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT I find there are both a NB Ultimate and NB Laser in the market. The latter is touted as the higher version of NB and the price difference is under Rs.400. What is intriguing is that the latter had no halogen fill, and uses pure Xenon. So I am tempted by it.
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15th May 2018, 16:20	#117
sgiitk Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,971 Thanked: 4,791 Times	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT [ATTACH=Car_1.png][/ATTACH] Put my Brio through its annual service. The damages were large Rs.15408. In fact I am not sure about some of the costs. The front disc pas were changed even though there was quite a lot of stuff left. However the brakes are much better than before. Some of the other stuff looked a bit fishy but then it is a cross one has to bear. The entire team seems to have changed. Attached Images
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15th May 2018, 16:43	#118
mxh BHPian Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Mumbai Posts: 319 Thanked: 280 Times	How did you manage to spend so much on your service. Tried opening the images but the quality is too poor. I have a city 2015 and till date not spent more than 4500 for a service (light usage) so your post worries me..
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19th July 2018, 13:13	#120
Crankpin BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 313 Thanked: 215 Times View My Garage	Re: Urban Titanium Honda Brio V-AT I am planning a 35k kms service on my Brio AT. I'm thinking of changing the plugs. Should I stick to the OEM plugs? Also, I'm searching for 0W30 synthetic oil for the Brio but am getting 5W30 at most places. Is it required to change the brake rotors with the pads as my Brio has done about 35k kms?
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