First of all congrats on your Vento. You would be aware there's even a new refreshed Vento that has been launched. Hoping you get new one which comes at slight lower price for Highline with more goodies.
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Originally Posted by akula.sreekanth Did you do the relay installation yourself? or did you get it done through the VW workshop? or outside? will there be any problem with the warranty if we get another relay installed? |
Well I actually got relay installed from VW workshop just because of goodwill of parts manager over there. But I checked myself, installing is easy work not much problem. But since you would be purchasing it from a shop, they would easily install without any cutting of wires. 10 mins job flat.
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Originally Posted by akula.sreekanth Some of the threads/posts I read there is no cutting of wires, so no warranty void. But in some other posts I read that the stock wiring is not capable to take high current needed by these higher wattage lamps. So one needs to change the wiring to thicker wiring. Doesn't this mean we are messing with wiring and won't there be a problem for the warranty? |
First of all installing relay doesn't result in any cutting of wire, simple plug-n-play. The stock wiring is very capable of taking 60/55 wattage and even 100/90 to a certain extent.
But 100/90 result in lot of heat and draws more current. So if anything happens either relay that you install goes kaput or the 2 30A fuse which roughly cost Rs. 5 merely. Its been 1.5 yrs since installing the relay and most of time, just the fuse goes out which I just replace myself.
VW can be finicky about warranty, since using 100/90W can result in headlight assembly to fade earlier because of heat. Well thats not a manufacturing fault, so VW ought not to honor it, but if you approach them after removing relay and putting back 60/55W bulbs they will. As they wont see any change.
No need to change to thicker wiring. Just get Bosch/Hella/Philips or PMP relay if the former three are not available and you can install 100/90W bulb without any problems.
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Originally Posted by akula.sreekanth Is there a relay already installed? (I haven't got the car delivered yet) if there is one already, do we need to install a second one? Or there is no relay for stock 60/55 lamps and we need one now for 100/90W lamps?? |
No idea about any relay installed but there definitely be one and fuse to see to that if any problem occurs.
As a thumb rule if you plan to go with 100/90W bulbs install a Bosch/Hella/Philips relay without an iota of doubt.
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Originally Posted by akula.sreekanth I have 100/90 in my Alto. But it doesn't look like white light. Is it because I don't have sufficient number of relays installed (does it require two??) One of my uncles got it changed to 100/90 when the car was with him for a long time. So I don't know whether they installed an extra relay or not. I see one relay in the engine bay. Once in a while the lamp keeps getting burned out. So I keep getting it replaced. Still the light doesn't look white. It looks much much brighter than the stock bulb. But essentially it looks yellowish. |
The Philips EssentialVision 100/90W that I'm having are true white, no yellow tinge. The color output of light has got nothing to do with number of relays. Lastly there is just one relay installed which takes care of both RHS & LHS headlight H4 bulb.
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Originally Posted by akula.sreekanth The bulbs in my Alto are Philips H4 100/90 12569EV (does this mean Essential vision??, because I saw in Philips website and found a similar part number or description for the essential vision H4 100/90). But these bulbs cost me only Rs.175 per piece. and the packing is different from the ones you have shown in one of the posts. My bulbs were in small cardboard boxes unlike yours which are sealed in plastic. |
Well I purchased the bulbs from Philips Dealer at Opera House Mumbai, and its Genuine Philips, no doubt.
The price I got for is Rs. 300 that too at dealer rate, there is no possibility that you could get the same for as much as half price of Rs. 175. They definitely are fake which is why you ain't getting white light and bulbs going
kaput regularly.
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Originally Posted by akula.sreekanth Sorry for too many questions. I am about to get my vento delivered in the next 10 days. so trying to gather/gain knowledge before it reaches me. |
No problems, let me know if you have any further query. Congrats on your Vento all over again.
To sum up all the above.
1. If you wish to go for 100/90W have a Bosch/Hella/Philips relay installed.
2. Get the work done from a reputed shop who knows the work and sells Genuine products.
You could also get in touch with fellow bhpians
@nileshch,
@joslicx and
@newtonmeter; all of them Vento owner and in Banglore. They could help you out and let you know respective shops to get the work done.