[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by navpreet318

We have the last generation swift ZXI as well. That handles well. the steering is very precise and weighs up as well.
This just does not weigh up at all and requires a lot of inputs at highway speeds. The ZXI on the other hand stays rock solid.

Just a question. Is there a change in the steering system for the Diesel car and the Petrol car?

AFAIK, all the updates that the Swift has received the mechanicals and underpinnings were not changed so how can this feel of the steering change?!

Anurag.

[navpreet318]

I don't know any details for the change. We now have a 2007 ZXI and the 2013 ZDI and I have to say the ZXI is definitely a better steering car. To the point that if you turn the steering at highway speeds it has no intention to self centre on its own.

[D'Artagnan]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Just a question. Is there a change in the steering system for the Diesel car and the Petrol car? .

Originally Posted by navpreet318

I don't know any details for the change. We now have a 2007 ZXI and the 2013 ZDI and I have to say the ZXI is definitely a better steering car.

It could be due to the older swift models use a power assisted hydraulic steering and the newer models use electronic power steering. The disconnect you feel is because the electronic steering its super light, makes life easy in traffic but most drivers usually prefer hydraulic steering even non enthusiasts as you get a feel of the wheels and which direction they're pointed at.

[deetjohn]

Originally Posted by navpreet318

We now have a 2007 ZXI and the 2013 ZDI and I have to say the ZXI is definitely a better steering car. To the point that if you turn the steering at highway speeds it has no intention to self centre on its own.

Can you get the wheel alignment checked in the car? In our Swift, the steering does self centre. I know its a new car, but would be good to get this checked.

Originally Posted by D'Artagnan

It could be due to the older swift models use a power assisted hydraulic steering and the newer models use electronic power steering.

AFAIK, all Swifts came with EPS. The old generation had a heavier feel compared to the new one. But I think the new one is faster and more direct.

[ku69rd]

Originally Posted by deetjohn

AFAIK, all Swifts came with EPS. The old generation had a heavier feel compared to the new one. But I think the new one is faster and more direct.

+1 to that, Have driven both the New and old gen Swift Diesels felt that the new swifts are very light compared to the old gen. The old Gen would give it a good feel when compared to the new ones. The new ones are a pleasure to use in city but on the highways they act like a cat on a hot tin roof.
They can twitch with very slight inputs on the highway and does not get weighed down with speeds. Needs a steady hand

[navpreet318]

^ Exactly that MK. Needs a steady hand. Went out for a high speed drive last night on the highway. Speeds are good but it feels twichy. You cannot relax in it. Always attentive to the road and steering feel. Actually now I'll tell you what it feels like....Mahindra Bolero! Thats exactly what it feels like at speeds. Haha.

[rana_kirti]

hey guys at night some kids broke my swift's rear glass. it's a normal type without rear defogger/wiper.

would this be covered under third party insurance ? if not then what would the approximate cost of a new rear glass ?

thanks in advance

[shahbaz.k]

Originally Posted by ku69rd

+1 to that, Have driven both the New and old gen Swift Diesels felt that the new swifts are very light compared to the old gen. The old Gen would give it a good feel when compared to the new ones. The new ones are a pleasure to use in city but on the highways they act like a cat on a hot tin roof.
They can twitch with very slight inputs on the highway and does not get weighed down with speeds. Needs a steady hand

Fully agree with you on that one. Recently had a chance to drive my friend's new Swift Vxi. Found the steering too light for comfortable driving. Wasn't a problem with the old gen swift though.

[paragsachania]

Originally Posted by rana_kirti

hey guys at night some kids broke my swift's rear glass. it's a normal type without rear defogger/wiper.

would this be covered under third party insurance ? if not then what would the approximate cost of a new rear glass ?

thanks in advance

A 3rd Party insurance will cover a beneficiary who is other than the 2 parties and it is unlikely that your damage will be covered by the service provider.

[rahulk2510]

Originally Posted by rana_kirti

hey guys at night some kids broke my swift's rear glass. it's a normal type without rear defogger/wiper.

would this be covered under third party insurance ? if not then what would the approximate cost of a new rear glass ?

thanks in advance

Similar incident happened with my Swift too. Got it replaced for 2200/- in Mumbai with taxes and labour. However, the prices might vary in Delhi.

Cheers,

Rahul

[romeomidhun]

One simple question: how the mid average mileage is calculated? Is it for the odometer running, trip a or trip b?

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

One simple question: how the mid average mileage is calculated? Is it for the odometer running, trip a or trip b?

Speed and main odometer. Tip odometer will not be used as it be reset after a certain usage by the driver.

Anurag.

[rana_kirti]

Originally Posted by paragsachania

A 3rd Party insurance will cover a beneficiary who is other than the 2 parties and it is unlikely that your damage will be covered by the service provider.

Originally Posted by rahulk2510

Similar incident happened with my Swift too. Got it replaced for 2200/- in Mumbai with taxes and labour. However, the prices might vary in Delhi.

Cheers,

Rahul

went to maruti dealer workshop yesterday. glass not covered under 3rd party but was told it would have been covered under 1st party insurance.

anyways the cost with installation came to Rs 3500. by the way this is for the previous model swift.

[swiftnfurious]

Originally Posted by rana_kirti

went to maruti dealer workshop yesterday. glass not covered under 3rd party but was told it would have been covered under 1st party insurance.

anyways the cost with installation came to Rs 3500. by the way this is for the previous model swift.

What was the total cost of the installation (the amount covered by insurance)? Any particular reason why you didn't approach windshield experts or any other specialists? From some of the reports on the forum, they also process insurance and yet cheaper than A$$.

[humyum]

Originally Posted by navpreet318

I don't know any details for the change. We now have a 2007 ZXI and the 2013 ZDI and I have to say the ZXI is definitely a better steering car. To the point that if you turn the steering at highway speeds it has no intention to self centre on its own.

The damper maybe is too tight and hence does not self center, I have a 2008 Swift Diesel ( Old Shape) and it does self center, Have driven the new one too extensively and that self centers too, although I agree the new Swift's have a way lighter steering than the old ones.

Originally Posted by D'Artagnan

It could be due to the older swift models use a power assisted hydraulic steering and the newer models use electronic power steering. The disconnect you feel is because the electronic steering its super light, makes life easy in traffic but most drivers usually prefer hydraulic steering even non enthusiasts as you get a feel of the wheels and which direction they're pointed at.

All the Swifts have always had Electronic Power steering.

Originally Posted by shahbaz.k

Fully agree with you on that one. Recently had a chance to drive my friend's new Swift Vxi. Found the steering too light for comfortable driving. Wasn't a problem with the old gen swift though.

I have driven a friends VDI ( New generation ) with stock 165 tyres and have gunned it to its max from start to end from Lonavala to Mumbai and I found it as planted as my car, infact I enjoyed the high speed escapade a lot. In correct tyre pressure/wheel balancing/wheel alignment can have symptoms of what you have experienced.

Originally Posted by ku69rd

+1 to that, Have driven both the New and old gen Swift Diesels felt that the new swifts are very light compared to the old gen. The old Gen would give it a good feel when compared to the new ones. The new ones are a pleasure to use in city but on the highways they act like a cat on a hot tin roof.
They can twitch with very slight inputs on the highway and does not get weighed down with speeds. Needs a steady hand

Well strange you found this, I Loved how the new one handled at 170+ speeds. It was perfect. Maybe the new Diesels because of a little heavier diesel engine have different driving characteristics than the petrol