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Originally Posted by motomaverick My bad if you thought it was directed at your driving, was not the intention.
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RD does give you trial opportunity before finalizing the purchase. |
Thanks again Motomaverick, Yes i am aware of the box being fitted on trial basis too . But i assume that one has to convey the decision related to final purchase within 1-2 days or 7 days max. Which i will still avail of before final payment. But wanted to still have your opinion first.
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Originally Posted by motomaverick Ladakh Drive Report
After having driven the car for more than 8000 kms this month for the Ladakh trip, I thought I will pen down my observations on how the car performed overall.
[*]Mileage; One Word: Good. Manza, always gives good mileage on the highways and this drive was no exception. Overall Bangalore to Bangalore calculation gives me a rough 17kpl over 8000 kms. Which I think is pretty cool for the weight it was lugging around. This average could have been more in a stock car but with the remap there was some spirited driving. [*]Safety; One Word: Tank. Though nothing untoward happened on the trip. But considering the number of under body hits in Ladakh and the kind of roads that it went through, I can salute the build quality of this Tata car. No new rattles have emerged after the trip. That I think says a lot of the improvement in quality. Though my car does not have ABS, braking was never an issue, there were a few high speed braking but nothing scary at all.[/list]
So if anyone is planning to take the Manza on a long long drive across the country, you can close your eyes and complete the trip. |
+1 to Motomaverick on the mileage part. It simply brings a
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to your face realizing the fuel consumption despite the weight (1.25 tons + woofer+other mods+ passengers)
Safety part : Again it is a known fact that Manzas and Vistas under body and underpinnings(special mention) are designed keeping Indian conditions in mind and hence they are definitely more robust then there foreign counterparts.
This reminds me of an incident 8-10months ago where i was driving my Manza on a very narrow road at a speed of not over 20kmph . A cycle cargo carrier carrying LPG cylinders in front of me suddenly lost it and swerved wildly to the centre of the road and i had no time to break and inorder to save him i had to turn the steering wheel only to realize that i have landed the front right wheel of my Manza on the divider. There was dust smoke , a loudish thud noise and a few people from nearby garages running towards me(many garages on that road).
I got down expecting some damage to the under body & the bumper but was astonished to see no damage and the same was confirmed by a garage boy who was already peeping inside . I calmly reversed the car and again inspected the under body visually and drove off. Got the car to Tass next day morning and got it inspected to confirm that there is no damage.
Those words of that garage boy are imprinted in my brain forever. " Tata hai saab , kuch nahi hua gaadi ko, Aur koi gaadi hota toh waat lag jaata."
Having said that i somehow don't find the built quality of the body(bonnet area, both bumpers, boot lid)to be near to Fiats and VWs. But definitely better than most of the japs at this price point.
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Originally Posted by condor From the reading I have done when I searched for HID's, my understanding is that:
1. the projector is (more like) a lens, and helps focus the beam from the HID
-- Check how lamps on vehicles that have projectors with regular Halogen bulbs behave. Eg: Hyndai Elantra (old), Storme etc
--The same bulb can be used without a projector - check the beam pattern in this case. Now put the same bulb in a projector based lamp & see the beam. You will know what is causing the difference in beam pattern.
-- Now do the same for HID lamp with & projector.
2. Putting in the projector is not easy. May be why this guy is asking you go the other way.
How does blackening the bezel help to concentrate the beam ? at the most it can restrict a part of the beam due to lack of reflecting surface in the blackened part. |
1)yes you are right but i feel that with after market lens while it will helps the focus of the beam, it definitely hampers the complete spread and visibility. This is not applicable to OE projectors IMO.
2)Putting the projectors is not easy : agreed,but this shop in question here (wheels car customs- Andheri link road - next to lotus petrol pump)is quite pro at this job. In fact they have fitted many such projectors on various types and makes of cars. So i guess that was not the reason of him not recommending me the same.
The reason could have been mainly because my first question to him was that i don't want a compromise in head light spread which is very satisfactory right now, i don't mind the cost but do you have such projectors with you? Install it only if you are 100% sure.
3)Blackening of the bezel :Yes you are right it just helps restrict a part of the surface to reflect. Actually my impression is due to the followoing sequence of events :
1st )I got HID installed in stock headlamps of my Manza (wheels car customs : as they were willing to fit them for trial for 7 days and pay only if i am satisfied). While the improvement was tremendous i was skeptical and got them removed next sunday as the glare from HIDs(4300K) was blinding to fellow motorist (personal feeling)
2nd)After a few months WHEELS recommended me smoking the head light bezels to black. They were very sure that they would look very god on Manza triple barrel head lamps. So i went for the same. But next 7 days i was disappointing with the head light spread as same was disturbed due to blackened bezel.
3rd)To make up for the same i then again installed HIDs (4300K) and fortunately with blackened bezel this time the HIDs were not at all hurting to eyes and the beam pattern was very well focused on the road.
Blackening of the bezel removed unwanted throw of the beam thereby giving it a more focused type of pattern.
However projectors / beam focus pattern is a completely different story and mechanics all together.
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