Team-BHP - Review: 2nd-gen Hyundai Verna (2011)

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Originally Posted by Tassem (Post 2435818)

@Poitive:

The manual says 32 psi. I had 31 with 4 people and a loaded to the brim boot. When I say loaded, I mean you cant even squeeze a bottle of coke in. The ride wasn't bad at all. I kept asking my parents in the back if they're confortable and had no complaints. Personally I feel 32 is a bit too much mileage oriented. I may be wrong.

Thanks for the info, mate. Now, that makes it even more impressive. I was wondering if the FE was as good due to overinflated tyres. I am no expert, but make sure about what tyre pressure you want to use with as much load. Typically one needs to increase it with load (to have a similar contact patch with the road). Lower pressure also may lead to the tyre overheating and eventually tyre bursts, which evidently are extremely unsafe.

The ride comfort may also have come from the slight under-inflation.

Also, whether you check the tyre pressure before the car has moved (cold tyre pressure) and after it has gone to a Filling station (say 2 kms away) would be different (about 2+ psi in my experience). So in case you had 31 at a filling station after running the car a bit, the cold tyre pressure may have actually been only about 29 or maybe even lower.

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Originally Posted by Sebring (Post 2435232)

You are right. I mean what's the point if ABS is effective only at straight line braking. It only made things worse for us, when we swerved.

Some more research on this may be worthwhile, Sebring. There are a few threads on the forum discussing this.

Wikipedia link

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An anti-lock braking system (ABS, from German: Antiblockiersystem) is a safety system that allows the wheels on a motor vehicle to continue interacting tractively with the road surface as directed by driver steering inputs while braking, preventing the wheels from locking up (that is, ceasing rotation) and therefore avoiding skidding.

An ABS generally offers improved vehicle control and decreases stopping distances on dry and slippery surfaces for many drivers; however, on loose surfaces like gravel or snow-covered pavement, an ABS can significantly increase braking distance, although still improving vehicle control.[1]

Since initial widespread use in production cars, anti-lock braking systems have evolved considerably. Recent versions not only prevent wheel lock under braking, but also electronically control the front-to-rear brake bias. This function, depending on its specific capabilities and implementation, is known as electronic brakeforce distribution (EBD), traction control system, emergency brake assist, or electronic stability control (ESC).

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Originally Posted by shenoytech (Post 2438017)

The GC for my Fluidic seems to be an issue here. Certain humps which my old verna used to clear effortlessly, my new ANHV scraps the bottom.
This happened to me today thrice within the city with four people onboard. Is there any solution to this? . I get jitters thinking full load, high speed long distance travel sometimes encountered with crater size potholes and jumbo size humps.

I guess you will either have to upgrade the suspension [expensive option] or use some rubber springs [VFM option]. There is a thread about the rubber coil used in Civic.

Edit:: Link to topic - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...uspension.html

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Originally Posted by Sebring (Post 2434077)

There was a piece of tyre on the road, we swerved to avoid it but our ABS enabled car totally lost control and was all over the highway at 120+ KMPH. It spun, turned turtle before landing on its right. Escaped with contusions but my friends were badly hurt.

:OT Sorry to hear about the accident but good to hear that the airbags helped & the emergency infra worked like clockwork.
What i would like to point out here is that at such speeds, if you see an obstruction like a tyre or a brick (i.e. something that your car can go over even if it causes damage), your better off going right over it rather than swerving. Even if it leads to damage and emergency stopping once past it, its better than swerving & losing control.

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Originally Posted by _raVan_ (Post 2438831)

I dont know if I have missed it, but are there reading lights in the front? Or only in the middle like the i20 ?

There are dual reading lamps in the front. You can activate them individually for left/right by toggling the lens. There a switch to set them to turn on when the doors open and also to turn both of them on/off at the same time.

There is a roof lamp as well.

When the car is unlocked both the lamps turn on till the key is inserted. When you turn off the car, both these lamps illuminate till you lock the car.

I thought of creating a new post but felt putting this here would get more visilbility from owners and potential owners of the Verna. Also I could not find this discussed elsewhere as well.

While the Verna comes with keyless entry and immobiliser, there is no break-in/intruder/panic alarm installed. So if someone breaks in, while they will not be able to drive away the car, they will still be able to swipe any valuables left in the car.

My question is, is there a way to install an intruder alarm while retaining the original keyless system? The reason I want to retain the original is so that I dont lose the flip key functionality.

On a separate note, I may get genuine Philips 4200K HID installed in the fog lamps this weekend. Spoke to the distributor and he has stock of 4200K lamps. I will also check if the beam cut off is acceptably sharp if the HIDs are used with the stock reflector. But HIDs are not very keen on being flashed as it tends to damage the bulbs. (Google for more info.) Hence headlamp replacement has a lesser chance than foglamps.

The ANHV seems to be rocking since its launch. The July sales figures reveals that it is the C Segment leader. I believe that the ANHV can sustain this position consider VW is unable to scale up on Vento, NFF wrong premium pricing strategy and ANHC lacking diesel.

Since the launch in May'11 the sales figures are 13183 units and the month wise data is as below

May'11 : 4357 units
June'11 : 4102 units
July'11 : 4724 units

During the same period VW has sold 7706 units (2403+2457+2846).

Superb show by Hyundai on product and strategy.

Cheers

KPS

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Originally Posted by KPS (Post 2454041)

Superb show by Hyundai on product and strategy.

Oh yeah! They address what most car buyers look for.

Good A.S.S.
Good FE
Very easy to drive, despite being a diesel
Good looking (especially from the rear)
Good road presence (was surprised at this, on seeing one next to me on the road other day)
Lots of gizmos (especially for neighbours envy ;) )
Easy to use steering in the city
After the NFF pricing, even seems like VFM!!

That it may not be the most suitable car at high speeds would not be of concern to most. The rear seat has ample legroom, however didn't seem the best car to be driven in. I guess many would overlook that for other pluses.

Most people aren't really looking for a driver's car. Hyundai focused on other aspects and seem to have done very well. Well, whom am I say say that - the market is saying so :)

folks,

I had booked the i20 Asta diesel on 18th of July at my native Kochi. But back in Bangalore (where I reside to work), on one of those dull Saturday (later not so) I thought I would once again TD the i20. I rushed into Trident Hyundai at Lower Palace, something happened. A happy go lucky family taking delivery of their 1.6 Verna SX. This just turned on some kinda mill in my head which was grinding away the '20' idea from head.

I just left the churns and mills behind took a TD in the earlier 1.4 Asta. i just wanted to check

1. the AC (It was raining cats and dogs in Kochi)

2.Turbo lag in the city traffic as my Kochi TD was on the Vytilla-Maradu stretch.

I did not tell my 'booked' story to the Trident-rep so that I get to hear any new features that my Kochi-rep might have missed stupid:

Later the rep went away to take up the brochure and price list and again I got time to spent with the On-display Verna. The 'Mills' got back to work and this time I heard them louder and clearer it seems.

Long story short I reverted my i20 booking with MGF Kochi and booked my Verna 1.6 SX. But the billion dollar question i have is keeping the following usage plans for my car should I go for 1.6 VGT(its SX minus 16" Alloys,Electric foldable ORVM, auto dim IRVM, supervision cluster MID and reverse camera on IRVM):

1. Monthly once or twice : Bangalore -Kochi (1000KM round)

2. New to Karnataka so would definitely explore places in weekend getaways once in 2 months

3. Take around Bangalore my parents/in-laws who visits us once in 2 months.

4. No office trips because its just couple of blocks away and my pulsar would be perfect.

5. 'Some People love to Live I love to Drive' kinda person so i might take her even if just to buy a grocery from the next block.

The price difference between the 1.6VGT and 1.6VGT SX OTR is around 80-70K.

So do I need to shell out this much rather save them to get some after market 15" alloys.

Adviceplease:.

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Originally Posted by cogweelz (Post 2454049)

Long story short I reverted my i20 booking with MGF Kochi and booked my Verna 1.6 SX. But the billion dollar question i have is keeping the following usage plans for my car should I go for 1.6 VGT(its SX minus 16" Alloys,Electric foldable ORVM, auto dim IRVM, supervision cluster MID and reverse camera on IRVM):

First of all, congrats on booking the all-new Hyundai Verna. Be ready to be swept over by the fluidic sculpture.

On your choice of variant, I would suggest you to go for the SX by shelling out the 70K extra money. The prime reasons are the Verna's coupe-like styling absolutely needs a parking sensor. Even if you go for the VGT variant, you will be spending money on aftermarket sensor and/or internal LCD display. Th next is the electric foldable ORVM, which I think would prove useful in Bangalore traffic in the longer run. You already get nice jazzy looking alloys, so you need not spend extra in that.

But, if you are keen on enhancing the stunning looks of the Verna even further, then yes, go in for the VGT variant, get some nice aftermarket alloys and fit in a parking sensor.

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Originally Posted by cogweelz (Post 2454049)

But the billion dollar question i have is keeping the following usage plans for my car should I go for 1.6 VGT(its SX minus 16" Alloys,Electric foldable ORVM, auto dim IRVM, supervision cluster MID and reverse camera on IRVM):

The price difference between the 1.6VGT and 1.6VGT SX OTR is around 80-70K.

If it were me, I would go for the SX variant and keep the car as much as stock without the worry of a void warranty. I guess SX comes with almost every feature that one need and if you like the alloy wheels with SX, I don't find a problem in spending that 70K extra.

The only thing I might want to change is the ICE since I love music as well, a lot.