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Nice informative thread GTO.

However, I don't think you should ditch your performance suspension plan. Since im sure a good set of coilovers will be infinitely better than these things, be it stability or handling.

Also you are going to upsize your rims so right now the springs make take the extra strain. But after upsizing the full suspension will be more strained, and the springs even more.

Hi,
So 1kxx for each. How much does each weigh?

Regards
Sutripta

After your weekend trip and when you get a better feel of this mod, could you drive a face-lift Civic and draw a comparison?

Why don't you get your shock absorbers replaced first!!! That will make a huge difference (in terms of ride quality).

Darryl said that this is only the case for a few cars that have springs with different sized gaps between them.
Eg. Civic. Look at the pic closely, the gaps are smaller at the top.



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I spoke with Daryll right now and I'm planning to get this couriered to Bangalore. Going in for 2 at the rear to start with. He mentioned that Rush had installed after cutting the rubber so that there is no overlap of rubber in the interest of softer ride. He recommends using it without cutting so that there is an overlap. And he said if I feel the ride to be overly stiff, remove, cut it short and reinsert without an overlap. I'm going to try this. Waiting for bank details from him to make an online transfer and then he couriers it over. He has recommended A1 garage in Wilson garden for installation.
I seem to be going the GTO way. Spent a load on audio, had the catcon removed which really made the car immensely driveable, now the mod for the suspension, and I've asked someone to get me the K&N Typhoon intake from US in May. Close to 5 years now and my love for the Civic keeps growing. Its one sweet car that touches my heart to this day.

Mechanical coil spring has spring rate only but elastomer has both spring and damping abilities. In this case its not damping the body movement but probably hi-frequency spring vibration. So **if** the spring is going into resonance for whatever reason, the autorunner will help dampen that.

2. yes typically that is something we can expect.

It is possible and the design is in my head. But however, it cannot be inserted from the side but the coil has to come off and it has to be slid down along the helix. Like GTO said, it becomes a custom part/mold for each car and hence drives up the cost.

Ok , i am not sure if this is my wonder solution so advice . I ve got a corolla with lowering stiffened springs from eibach but it was too low and the rear used to scrape with just one person and a bit soft for my liking ,front on the other hand -SUPERB. Since it was my only car and I ve got more than two friends to seat in the car I got the rear back to stock and front lowered , the rear bounces and i am too scared to push it after an oversteer moment at the imax corner. Under steer is almost eliminated with the front springs , but oversteer in a FWD scares me .
SO the adjuster to be used in the rear with stock springs making them harder OR in the lowering springs giving me more GC?

Stick with the rear OEM springs. I have done the same with my Elantra. Handling is superb without compromising rear ride quality.:)

Yes it can. One needs to go after-market though. (Camber Bolts).

I would agree Rehaan but at this point I don't want to splurge upwards of 40K for new suspension, stock or after-market.
This is just an experiment I'm willing to do.

cheers

It is really interesting that you went for it immediately :).

However one point a cut spacer like this typically requires a shroud to keep the rubber from slipping off. I have used solid rubber & aluminium spacers that are pre-moulded to the diameter of the spring that have a lower chance of them slipping out.

It is a good choice to stay to a 1 inch spacer, however would have recommended a re-alignment of the tyres to correct the possible changes in camber.

Jump the gun seems to be my middle name. clap:
I am confident that this seems to be a plausible solution to Civic's problem and also the fact that GTO got this done helps.

Yes, I plan to stick with 1" spacer and would surely get a alignment done immediately.

Thanks

No way. Have you been in a Civic with coilovers? I have, and I hate it! The ride gets bumpy and stiff as hell. I would never recommend coilovers for a street setup unless you drive on roads that are flatter than a table top.

Vivek, I was talking without mods. A better alternative to Camber bolts (jugaad) is camber plates. :)

A picture would help Keshav. I am picking up these for my friends Civic. He just moved back from coilovers to stock and has 17" wheels. We want to ensure the rear doesn't sag and foul with the tyres on full load.

Still confused on how camber correction is done?

GTO ,

I remember using something similar on the zen a few years ago to prevent the 165 tires from scraping the body in the rear when fully loaded.

Though this does prevent your suspension from bottoming ,the handling and braking does get affected when driving with no one in the rear .I removed it immediately after one 2000 km drive

Is there any risk? Can you please suggest improvements?

Then, at the front, install it at the bottom of the spring and not top. Darryl recommends this anyways.

As Moral posted, coilovers are a poor (and VERY expensive) choice for Indian driving conditions. However, if & when I get a performance setup, it'll be Koni FSDs with springs that aren't too stiff.

Right now though, the more I'm driving with this new rear, the more I'm getting convinced on my existing setup.

Sorry, don't remember. @ Hiren : Can you please help out here once you get your adjusters in hand?

I'll drive a facelift when I can. But it still won't be an apples to apples comparo because:

- I have over 20 kilos of ICE at the back

- My car is into its 5th year now. Time itself would have made some suspension bits worn out. My suspension is past its prime.

That said, a facelift Civic will be undoubtedly SUPERIOR! Stiffer springs & dampers - from the factory - have my trust over such an after-market mod.

I did research on this, and concluded that cutting is better than overlapping. Don't overdo it please.

:) Glad I could be of help

My car is now close to just how I'd want it. Poor low end torque & soft, bouncy rear have been taken care of. The single complaint - and the only one now - is the shallow boot.

Of course, that doesn't mean the modifications will stop though!

Thank you for your advice, Psycho.

Got a picture / drawing to share please? This Mod is so cheap and (on initial impressions) effective, that I want to stick with it for the time being. No going back to the saggy, droopy rear.

Got the Jeep to work today, so cancelled alignment appointment. Will be getting it done soon though.

Vikram has also got a boot full of ICE, right? Check. His car will be sagging even with no one onboard.

Hi Satya, you are the second Zen owner speaking against this product. Thanks for the comments. Can you please elaborate the negatives over that 2,000 kms drive?

I'll know how it is on the highway only after this weekend. However, I wouldn't write it off based on the Zen experience because it's a different product on a different car.