Replacing Clutch on swift diesel

humyum · 15th May 2010, 00:12

Well that was from my experience and also from the experience of another team-bhp member, I think it was eddy.

Its a set which is mated, namely the clutch, pressure plate and the flywheel. Any uneven ness between the contact of the clutch and flywheel will cause a judder.

Its a risk and the clutch is only worth 1700 bucks, so might as well go for it and have a peace of mind. If it does start juddering, u ll have to open it again asap otherwise the clutch will wear according to the old flywheel and u ll need to for a new set of everything again.

samy3660 · 15th May 2010, 09:01

ok thanks,, i will ask the advisor if there is uneveness in flywheel, if there is even a slight i will change it.

samy3660 · 26th May 2010, 13:31

Guys car is back after the replacement and it feels more speedy again they have charged total of 10,560/- Rs including servicing and oil change. Flywheel has not been changed as they said it is not required.

Here are the pictures of old clutch plate:

Eddy · 26th May 2010, 13:34

You've got the break up of the charges ?

samy3660 · 26th May 2010, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

You've got the break up of the charges ?

Yes eddy the copy of the bill is attached,

Eddy · 26th May 2010, 15:24

Ok, so the clutch change per se cost you about 6k.

Other than that, its all consumables change. Couple of points:

1- Engine Oil change - 3.5 lit. Either they have overfilled the oil or overcharged you. I would be worried if its the former. Recommended quantity is 3.1 l and overfill can cause turbo trouble.

2- No air filter change ?

Btw: This seems to be your 70k service right ? Didn't you get all consumables changed at the 60k service itself ? If yes, the next change should have been at 80k.

SirAlec · 26th May 2010, 18:48

Clutch slave cylinder looks fine to me.

anyway! glad that your problem was solved.

samy3660 · 26th May 2010, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

Ok, so the clutch change per se cost you about 6k.

Other than that, its all consumables change. Couple of points:

1- Engine Oil change - 3.5 lit. Either they have overfilled the oil or overcharged you. I would be worried if its the former. Recommended quantity is 3.1 l and overfill can cause turbo trouble.
2- No air filter change ?

Btw: This seems to be your 70k service right ? Didn't you get all consumables changed at the 60k service itself ? If yes, the next change should have been at 80k.

yes i had major service done at 60000 kms. i will ask them about oil and also tell them to check airfilters. thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirAlec

Clutch slave cylinder looks fine to me.

anyway! glad that your problem was solved.

thanks sirAlec. Do you think i can sell it off, and if yes where?

yzfrj · 26th May 2010, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

1- Engine Oil change - 3.5 lit. Either they have overfilled the oil or overcharged you.

I've seen this and yes lets hope they did't overfill.
My zen needs 4 Ltrs of the stuff, would you believe ?
I asked the SA he sheepishly smiled.
MASS funny chaps at times.

JMaruru · 12th January 2019, 18:15

Has any here replaced their swift diesel clutch recently?

I have been asked for clutch overhaul and would like to know, what all needs to be done. Can this be done at a FNG or should it be done only at ASC?

Please advise!

blorebuddy · 12th January 2019, 19:23

I have done at 210k kms for my VDI at MASS along with gear sync. for 1st and 2 Nd gear have been changed. Total damage is 16 or 17k. Definitely clutch become lighter. Gear shift improved by 50%

JMaruru · 13th January 2019, 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by blorebuddy

I have done at 210k kms for my VDI at MASS along with gear sync. for 1st and 2 Nd gear have been changed. Total damage is 16 or 17k. Definitely clutch become lighter. Gear shift improved by 50%

Wow! 210K on stock clutch?

For just clutch overhaul I have been given a quote of around 13K by a nearby MASS. Can I know which MASS you got this done at?

blorebuddy · 22nd January 2019, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMaruru

Wow! 210K on stock clutch?

For just clutch overhaul I have been given a quote of around 13K by a nearby MASS. Can I know which MASS you got this done at?

Apologies for the delay. Yes it's stock clutch, I could have stretched little more as no shuddering problem and there was no problem with pulling, I was still able to move from 1st or 2nd gear from stand still. I did not experience any slips also. I went ahead because with the increase in stop and go traffic in Bangalore wanted to have a little softer clutch. It has become little hard that was the major driver for me to replace.

I have done the work at Suraksha, Bommanahalli. They did a decent job.

JMaruru · 22nd January 2019, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by blorebuddy

Apologies for the delay. Yes it's stock clutch, I could have stretched little more as no shuddering problem and there was no problem with pulling, I was still able to move from 1st or 2nd gear from stand still. I did not experience any slips also. I went ahead because with the increase in stop and go traffic in Bangalore wanted to have a little softer clutch. It has become little hard that was the major driver for me to replace.

I have done the work at Suraksha, Bommanahalli. They did a decent job.

Awesome! I could drag the stock clutch until 90K. There was distinct shudder from standstill to first. So went ahead and got it done this afternoon at Mandovi, JP Nagar. They replaced the clutch assembly, slave cylinder and flywheel. The total cost with labor came to around 13K.

Motorhead91 · 13th September 2021, 22:33

I replaced the clutch on my 2013 Swift VDI at 54K kms today at nearby MASS and I'm afraid it didn't turn out well!

When I test drove the car after the replacement, I felt a judder when I released the clutch especially in reverse gear

. I told the SA about it and he drove the car for few kms and told me it is because of lines formed on the flywheel and it should go away after driving some 100 kms.

He then told me if the issue still continue to exist then I should consider replacing the flywheel. When I asked him why he didn't recommend doing it along with the clutch he told they don't usually recommend it to avoid the additional cost. But now if I have to replace the flywheel I'll have to pay the full labour charges along with the cost for parts

Could someone please confirm if their claim that the judder will go away on its own after 100 kms is true?

15th May 2010, 00:12	#16
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,783 Thanked: 5,600 Times	Well that was from my experience and also from the experience of another team-bhp member, I think it was eddy. Its a set which is mated, namely the clutch, pressure plate and the flywheel. Any uneven ness between the contact of the clutch and flywheel will cause a judder. Its a risk and the clutch is only worth 1700 bucks, so might as well go for it and have a peace of mind. If it does start juddering, u ll have to open it again asap otherwise the clutch will wear according to the old flywheel and u ll need to for a new set of everything again.
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15th May 2010, 09:01	#17
samy3660 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 49 Thanked: 8 Times	ok thanks,, i will ask the advisor if there is uneveness in flywheel, if there is even a slight i will change it.
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26th May 2010, 13:31	#18
samy3660 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 49 Thanked: 8 Times	Guys car is back after the replacement and it feels more speedy again they have charged total of 10,560/- Rs including servicing and oil change. Flywheel has not been changed as they said it is not required. Here are the pictures of old clutch plate: Attached Thumbnails
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26th May 2010, 13:34	#19
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,464 Thanked: 13,811 Times	You've got the break up of the charges ?
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26th May 2010, 15:24	#21
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,464 Thanked: 13,811 Times	Ok, so the clutch change per se cost you about 6k. Other than that, its all consumables change. Couple of points: 1- Engine Oil change - 3.5 lit. Either they have overfilled the oil or overcharged you. I would be worried if its the former. Recommended quantity is 3.1 l and overfill can cause turbo trouble. 2- No air filter change ? Btw: This seems to be your 70k service right ? Didn't you get all consumables changed at the 60k service itself ? If yes, the next change should have been at 80k.
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26th May 2010, 18:48	#22
SirAlec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: zxc Posts: 3,395 Thanked: 727 Times	Clutch slave cylinder looks fine to me. anyway! glad that your problem was solved.
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12th January 2019, 18:15	#25
JMaruru BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BLR/EWR Posts: 808 Thanked: 375 Times	Re: Replacing Clutch on Swift Diesel? Has any here replaced their swift diesel clutch recently? I have been asked for clutch overhaul and would like to know, what all needs to be done. Can this be done at a FNG or should it be done only at ASC? Please advise!
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12th January 2019, 19:23	#26
blorebuddy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 600 Thanked: 282 Times	Re: Replacing Clutch on swift diesel I have done at 210k kms for my VDI at MASS along with gear sync. for 1st and 2 Nd gear have been changed. Total damage is 16 or 17k. Definitely clutch become lighter. Gear shift improved by 50%
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13th September 2021, 22:33	#30
Motorhead91 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Thiruvalla, KL Posts: 1 Thanked: Once	Re: Replacing Clutch on swift diesel I replaced the clutch on my 2013 Swift VDI at 54K kms today at nearby MASS and I'm afraid it didn't turn out well! When I test drove the car after the replacement, I felt a judder when I released the clutch especially in reverse gear. I told the SA about it and he drove the car for few kms and told me it is because of lines formed on the flywheel and it should go away after driving some 100 kms. He then told me if the issue still continue to exist then I should consider replacing the flywheel. When I asked him why he didn't recommend doing it along with the clutch he told they don't usually recommend it to avoid the additional cost. But now if I have to replace the flywheel I'll have to pay the full labour charges along with the cost for parts Could someone please confirm if their claim that the judder will go away on its own after 100 kms is true?
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