Steering won't return back (after a u-turn)!

b_ambat · 5th March 2010, 09:24

Hi friends, I own a Zen-D 2000 model, my steering won't return back after

fully turned right or lef(no power steering). I have to apply extra force to

bring it back, it acts as being hold there

. Is this due to the Alloys and

tyre, she runs on 5.5j with 165/65 R13 or any issue with the steering box ?

anupam00 · 5th March 2010, 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_ambat

Hi friends, I own a Zen-D 2000 model, my steering won't return back after

fully turned right or lef(no power steering). I have to apply extra force to

bring it back, it acts as being hold there

. Is this due to the Alloys and

tyre, she runs on 5.5j with 165/65 R13 or any issue with the steering box ?

Get the Ball Joint & End Checked+ Also Steering Bush Checked.

Also if you want to simulate get the front two wheels replaced just for a while with normal OEM tryre & RIM & cross check with 2 u turns & 1 km drive check & see if problem persist- According to me it is not related to Alloy or tyre or both.

It is more to do with Ball Joint,End, & Rack Bush

Thanks

Jaggu · 5th March 2010, 15:28

Just check if the steering damper is overtight first.

b_ambat · 5th March 2010, 16:49

Thanks for the reply guys, I had already checked the damper and also asked the mechanic to loose it little, but he told loosing the damper could lead to sound from the Steering box. My pinion bearing was changed one month ago, so the entire steering assembly was overhauled, is the issue related to improper fitment ?

Thanks

vigsom · 5th March 2010, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_ambat

Thanks for the reply guys, I had already checked the damper and also asked the mechanic to loose it little, but he told loosing the damper could lead to sound from the Steering box. My pinion bearing was changed one month ago, so the entire steering assembly was overhauled, is the issue related to improper fitment ?

Thanks

This could be due to :

improper fitment
rake(more likely) and pinion faulty

monster2 · 5th March 2010, 22:58

Hi..Bhpian,
I had to face the same check the Front Stud Bush and bearing, it might be broken inside, Which would cost you 250 for complete kit

b_ambat · 6th March 2010, 22:17

Hi monster2, thanks for your reply. You referred "Front Stud Bush" to front suspension bushes rite?

b_ambat · 16th March 2010, 16:37

Thanks monster2, I changed the suspension bushes and sturds and my issue is now solved.

monster2 · 17th March 2010, 15:59

HI Ambat..congrats good to see its solved happy driving...

Jaggu · 17th March 2010, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_ambat

Thanks for the reply guys, I had already checked the damper and also asked the mechanic to loose it little, but he told loosing the damper could lead to sound from the Steering box.
Thanks

Yes sound can happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by b_ambat

Thanks monster2, I changed the suspension bushes and sturds and my issue is now solved.

Almost 80% sure that they would have loosened the damper also

b_ambat · 26th March 2010, 10:52

Hi Jaggu, will the steering be heavier if the damper screw is tight. I feels the steering has become a bit tighter, as it hurts on city traffic.

Jaggu · 26th March 2010, 10:57

Yup steering will become tight if the damper nut is tightened. But this can happen due to other reason including worn out tyres.

pramodkumar · 26th March 2010, 11:01

I assume it could also be the due to the alloys and tyres, but 165 is the right size, there are some bearings in the sturts which is collectivly called the sturt kit, after a suspension overhaul in my old esteem we replaced this and the steeing was little lighter.

Pramod

devrajman · 26th March 2010, 11:07

I had faced a similar issue. My manual steering zen's steering was tight and also had a very very minor play.

When I showed it to Suraksha (hosur road). He tried with other Zen's tyre which were newer. And play had gone and also steering was lighter (i havent seen it myself but mechanic tried it)

So he regreased & refitted the steering (charged me Rs 450). Its smoother now. But I still feel a v.v. little play.

Kushal_Gupta · 21st February 2016, 21:40

Hello BHPians, I own a Chevrolet spark (october 2008) done 57k kms.
Recently the car got its front suspensions changed and with it all the bushes replaced. The car runs good.
But recently while driving i noticed that after completing the turn, the steering doesn't turn back to its initial position unless done by me (this usually should not happen) (Correct me if i am wrong). The steering wheel vibrated while turning and made funny noises. I went to my trusted mechanic and after check up told me that there is leakage in gaskets in the hydraulic cylinder and there is no steering oil. The vibration and funny noises went away after filling up the oil again.
For the gasket problem he told me i will have to shell out 5-6k for repairing the leakage.
Is the mechanic correct in his prediction?

I just needed to know before going forward with the repair. The matter is 1 month old.
Mods please put this post to the respective thread if the issue is already discussed.

5th March 2010, 09:24	#1
b_ambat BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: KL-7 Posts: 111 Thanked: 121 Times View My Garage	Steering won't return back (after a u-turn)! Hi friends, I own a Zen-D 2000 model, my steering won't return back after fully turned right or lef(no power steering). I have to apply extra force to bring it back, it acts as being hold there . Is this due to the Alloys and tyre, she runs on 5.5j with 165/65 R13 or any issue with the steering box ?
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5th March 2010, 15:28	#3
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,383 Thanked: 17,287 Times	Just check if the steering damper is overtight first.
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5th March 2010, 16:49	#4
b_ambat BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: KL-7 Posts: 111 Thanked: 121 Times View My Garage	Thanks for the reply guys, I had already checked the damper and also asked the mechanic to loose it little, but he told loosing the damper could lead to sound from the Steering box. My pinion bearing was changed one month ago, so the entire steering assembly was overhauled, is the issue related to improper fitment ? Thanks
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5th March 2010, 22:58	#6
monster2 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 83 Thanked: 12 Times	Hi..Bhpian, I had to face the same check the Front Stud Bush and bearing, it might be broken inside, Which would cost you 250 for complete kit
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6th March 2010, 22:17	#7
b_ambat BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: KL-7 Posts: 111 Thanked: 121 Times View My Garage	Hi monster2, thanks for your reply. You referred "Front Stud Bush" to front suspension bushes rite?
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16th March 2010, 16:37	#8
b_ambat BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: KL-7 Posts: 111 Thanked: 121 Times View My Garage	Thanks monster2, I changed the suspension bushes and sturds and my issue is now solved. Last edited by GTO : 17th March 2010 at 10:55. Reason: Please review your spellings, prior to submission, for the benefit of other forum users.
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17th March 2010, 15:59	#9
monster2 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 83 Thanked: 12 Times	HI Ambat..congrats good to see its solved happy driving...
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26th March 2010, 10:52	#11
b_ambat BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: KL-7 Posts: 111 Thanked: 121 Times View My Garage	Hi Jaggu, will the steering be heavier if the damper screw is tight. I feels the steering has become a bit tighter, as it hurts on city traffic.
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26th March 2010, 10:57	#12
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,383 Thanked: 17,287 Times	Yup steering will become tight if the damper nut is tightened. But this can happen due to other reason including worn out tyres.
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26th March 2010, 11:01	#13
pramodkumar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gods own country Posts: 2,307 Thanked: 2,268 Times View My Garage	I assume it could also be the due to the alloys and tyres, but 165 is the right size, there are some bearings in the sturts which is collectivly called the sturt kit, after a suspension overhaul in my old esteem we replaced this and the steeing was little lighter. Pramod
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26th March 2010, 11:07	#14
devrajman BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 505 Thanked: 119 Times View My Garage	I had faced a similar issue. My manual steering zen's steering was tight and also had a very very minor play. When I showed it to Suraksha (hosur road). He tried with other Zen's tyre which were newer. And play had gone and also steering was lighter (i havent seen it myself but mechanic tried it) So he regreased & refitted the steering (charged me Rs 450). Its smoother now. But I still feel a v.v. little play.
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21st February 2016, 21:40	#15
Kushal_Gupta Newbie Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 19 Thanked: 17 Times	Chevrolet Spark Steering Issue!! Hello BHPians, I own a Chevrolet spark (october 2008) done 57k kms. Recently the car got its front suspensions changed and with it all the bushes replaced. The car runs good. But recently while driving i noticed that after completing the turn, the steering doesn't turn back to its initial position unless done by me (this usually should not happen) (Correct me if i am wrong). The steering wheel vibrated while turning and made funny noises. I went to my trusted mechanic and after check up told me that there is leakage in gaskets in the hydraulic cylinder and there is no steering oil. The vibration and funny noises went away after filling up the oil again. For the gasket problem he told me i will have to shell out 5-6k for repairing the leakage. Is the mechanic correct in his prediction? I just needed to know before going forward with the repair. The matter is 1 month old. Mods please put this post to the respective thread if the issue is already discussed.
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