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DieselFan · 19th June 2009, 19:21

I saw a new oil from Mobil - Mobil Delvac Elite with CJ4 rating. see more about CJ-4 in the below link -

Lubricants

Improvements are happening at much faster pace now a days.

Eddy · 19th June 2009, 19:33

CJ4 is not available in India yet since its use is coupled with ultra low sulphur diesel which in turn is not used in India.

Raccoon · 20th June 2009, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Proxima

Is it recommended to change the Gear box oil for my ford Ikon TCDi after 5k kms? Please advice.

I don't think you need to change it that quick in any car. For Esteem its 20,000 km or 2 years. Should be something similar or whereabouts for your Ford.

greenhorn · 20th June 2009, 17:45

even delvac MX CI+ is not available in india :(

DieselFan · 20th June 2009, 17:54

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

even delvac MX CI+ is not available in india :(

Delvac MX API - CI-4 rating is more than sufficient for any diesel car in India. Not sure which car would need rating more than this?

greenhorn · 20th June 2009, 18:05

since we were discussing CJ4 and its unavailability here

American Delvac MX is CI4+ and Indian is just CI4. It wouldn't hurt if we also got the plus spec oil, or is it harmful?

Eddy · 20th June 2009, 19:44

Nope its not harmful at all. I use Chevron Delo400 which is CI4+

phamilyman · 20th June 2009, 22:44

and I use Petronas Urania which is CI4+

President · 20th June 2009, 23:11

What is the shelf life of these engine oils, be it Diesel or Petrol?
And are there any expiry dates printed on the cans? I've never given this a thought earlier but just struck my mind when I read here that some guys have been buying 10L buckets.

live2drive · 20th June 2009, 23:26

@Eddy: How much does a 10L bucket of Delo400 cost?

Raccoon · 21st June 2009, 03:23

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Originally Posted by President

What is the shelf life of these engine oils, be it Diesel or Petrol?
And are there any expiry dates printed on the cans? I've never given this a thought earlier but just struck my mind when I read here that some guys have been buying 10L buckets.

Shelf life of an unopened can is generally put at around 4 years. However, no oil company I know of puts an expiry date on its product. So people have come to believe that oils last forever... which obviously isn't true. Personally, I avoid buying anything thats over a year old... just don't feel comfy with it. Better to buy latest possible stock. But for those having to use 10L buckets... well, you gotta seal and store that bucket as well as possilble. And all the more important to buy the latest stock, since you gonna have to store if for long.

Ketan · 21st June 2009, 04:42

@Eddy,

Can you pleaes share your experiance with Delo 400 and what car/engine you are using it with!! Changes in terms of performance / noise / FE!!!

I'm going to get a 10l Delo 400 next (another week or so as I'm going to give my car for service). I have been using Delvec MX for past couple of times and now want to move to Delo 400, do I need to go for the engine oil flush before the change? I've got Palio D and hop Delo 400 would be a good choice.

phamilyman · 21st June 2009, 07:59

Buy a Petronas Urania CI4+. Its a lovely oil - comes in 7.5l bucket for 1400 - ideal for 2 oil changes. 10L is overkill IMO (and you gotto wait 25k km to finish it)

rb2399 · 21st June 2009, 08:16

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Originally Posted by Ketan

@Eddy,

Can you pleaes share your experiance with Delo 400 and what car/engine you are using it with!! Changes in terms of performance / noise / FE!!!

I'm going to get a 10l Delo 400 next (another week or so as I'm going to give my car for service). I have been using Delvec MX for past couple of times and now want to move to Delo 400, do I need to go for the engine oil flush before the change? I've got Palio D and hop Delo 400 would be a good choice.

I've been using Delo-400 in my 2.2 Safari for past 30K kms and I can vouch for it !.Overall NVH levels have come down.I had used Delvac MX in the past but somehow always felt the engine more coarser even with fresh oil.I do not know the reasons though.

I have not used Petronos,but if you want you can just compare the product data sheet for TBN,kinematic viscosity etc. and make a decision yourself.

greenhorn · 21st June 2009, 08:19

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Originally Posted by rb2399

always felt the engine more coarser even with fresh oil.I do not know the reasons though.

Hi, Is this with Delvac only, or does it happen with delo 400 as well?

I've had the same experience with Delvac

19th June 2009, 19:21	#121
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 259 Times	I saw a new oil from Mobil - Mobil Delvac Elite with CJ4 rating. see more about CJ-4 in the below link - Lubricants Improvements are happening at much faster pace now a days.
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19th June 2009, 19:33	#122
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 9,414 Thanked: 13,457 Times	CJ4 is not available in India yet since its use is coupled with ultra low sulphur diesel which in turn is not used in India.
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20th June 2009, 17:45	#124
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,792 Thanked: 4,620 Times View My Garage	even delvac MX CI+ is not available in india :(
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20th June 2009, 18:05	#126
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,792 Thanked: 4,620 Times View My Garage	since we were discussing CJ4 and its unavailability here American Delvac MX is CI4+ and Indian is just CI4. It wouldn't hurt if we also got the plus spec oil, or is it harmful?
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20th June 2009, 19:44	#127
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 9,414 Thanked: 13,457 Times	Nope its not harmful at all. I use Chevron Delo400 which is CI4+
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20th June 2009, 22:44	#128
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,972 Thanked: 4,654 Times	and I use Petronas Urania which is CI4+
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20th June 2009, 23:11	#129
President BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FIATFUL Mumbai Posts: 908 Thanked: 189 Times View My Garage	What is the shelf life of these engine oils, be it Diesel or Petrol? And are there any expiry dates printed on the cans? I've never given this a thought earlier but just struck my mind when I read here that some guys have been buying 10L buckets.
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20th June 2009, 23:26	#130
live2drive BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 525 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	@Eddy: How much does a 10L bucket of Delo400 cost?
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21st June 2009, 04:42	#132
Ketan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,002 Thanked: 444 Times View My Garage	@Eddy, Can you pleaes share your experiance with Delo 400 and what car/engine you are using it with!! Changes in terms of performance / noise / FE!!! I'm going to get a 10l Delo 400 next (another week or so as I'm going to give my car for service). I have been using Delvec MX for past couple of times and now want to move to Delo 400, do I need to go for the engine oil flush before the change? I've got Palio D and hop Delo 400 would be a good choice.
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21st June 2009, 07:59	#133
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,972 Thanked: 4,654 Times	Buy a Petronas Urania CI4+. Its a lovely oil - comes in 7.5l bucket for 1400 - ideal for 2 oil changes. 10L is overkill IMO (and you gotto wait 25k km to finish it)
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